I wish we had someone do this with 4B

1MoreHokie said:

5C could be very interesting. Matoaca loss to Dinwiddie should lock Fleming in through the regional finals, could be a very good game between Fleming and whomever crawls out of round two from the 804.

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Fleming better hope Midlo loses Friday because they don’t wanna play Louisa right now

OCBoy said:

Already a disaster

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That’s an understatement

5C could be very interesting. Matoaca loss to Dinwiddie should lock Fleming in at home through the regional finals, could be a very good game between Fleming and whomever crawls out of round two from the 804.

Honestly, I just want to see some new blood in Salem for the first round. Salem's never played Mecklenburg, Orange County, or James Wood so I'd like to see a new team in Salem Stadium for a change.

DinwiddieProud said:

On the NFHS Network, I occasionally see a listing for some Virginia schools for Coed JV of Freshman foorball. Is Coed football a real thing? We all know that the occasional young lady plays on a football team, but does coed football mean that it’s structured to have a certain number of boys and girls on the field as a rule?

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Strictly a guess from checking the website but I'd imagine when NFHS goes to list a broadcast they have a big list of all potential sports they cover so that you can also search by that when trying to find a game e.g. men's basketball, men's soccer, women's soccer, etc. they've got to label it something, right? So when they go on the website to do this there's probably a big list that pops up in alphabetical order and the next thing alphabetically under "Junior Varsity Boys Football" is probably "Junior Varsity Coed Football" so whoever listed that Louisa vs Goochland game tonight probably just mislabeled it. Additionally, a quick check tells me Louisa is finishing their season this Friday against Goochland and a quick trip to Louisa's football program website tells me they have their boys JV game against Goochland tonight so yea, simply a mislabeled event.

And if Mecklenburg loses to MV they will drop

Are you saying that LCA Beats JF the best they can do is 284 and if Salem beats BBurg the worst they can be is 285?

Handley beats Sherando and LCA beats JF- Salem is 2nd?

Whoa, Salem can jump to the 2 seed with a Handley win over Sherando and LCA win over JF. JF cannot outpoint Salem under any circumstance if they lose and Salem wins. Salem only maintains their spot at #4 if both JF and Sherando win and Sherando's rider points outdo Salem's.

Thanks for these!

SV-Viking4 said:

The very recently published numbers from VHSL are quite a bit different and not the mentioned differences from above.
Robinson, Lewis, Centreville, West Pot., Edison, Mt Vernon, Alex City, Falls Church.

Most only by a point or 2, but Robinson???

Alexandria City 21, James Robinson 13

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You are correct, there were some inconsistencies. I always reconcile what I have with VHSL when they release their points. Part of the issue is a lot of schools simply do not post finals, and I wind up relying on a single point of failure. During the final week of the season, I always get two sources just to make sure things like this don't happen.

1. Had the winner of Meridian/Warren County incorrect. NFHS had the wrong score listed on their lower third. So even when consulting video, it was wrong.

This resulted in a McLean -2.

2. Had the winner of Colgan/Forest Park incorrect. Don't remember where I got that score.

This resulted in a Lake Braddock -2, Alexandria +1.

3. Had the winner of T.J./Lewis incorrect. This game happened back in Week 7. VHSL had this incorrect on their weekly ratings for the past three weeks as well. Scorestream still lists the incorrect score of T.J. 23-0. Lewis won 33-30.

This resulted in a McLean +2, Washington-Liberty +2, Mount Vernon +2, Edison +2, Justice +2, Falls Church +2, Annandale, +2.


What impact did all of this have?

For Region D, no change for McLean as they +2/-2 netted zero points. Washington-Liberty does take a 2-point lead over Madison going into the final week. However, Madison is still in the driver's seat for securing the #1 seed. Washington-Liberty would need some help from some unlikely places (Annandale, Lewis, Falls Church) to have a shot. I'm not sure what a tie breaker would look like, but my guess is Madison would have an edge. Madison's SOS currently with 43 wins to Washington-Liberty's 42.

For Region C, small boost for Edison, Mount Vernon, and Alexandria, but it doesn't change their standings or any of the scenarios.

So, here's the updated points. I've also updated the above scenario for Yorktown, as Ballou lost tonight's game, which lowers Yorktown's ceiling.

Region C
Hayfield (260) 32.50
Lake Braddock (278) 30.89
West Springfield (254) 28.22
Fairfax (248) 27.56
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South County (235) 26.11
West Potomac (221) 24.56
Edison (218) 24.22
Mount Vernon (212) 23.56
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Alexandria City (209) 23.22
Robinson (208) 23.11
Falls Church (195) 21.67
Annandale (193) 21.44
Justice (187) 20.78
Lewis (182) 20.22
C.G. Woodson (167) 18.56

Region D
Washington-Liberty (314) 34.89
Madison (312) 34.67
Langley (279) 31.00
Westfield (278) 30.89
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Herndon (266) 29.56
Yorktown (253) 28.11
Marshall (279) 27.90
Oakton (230) 25.56
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Centreville (226) 25.11
McLean (226) 25.11
Chantilly (225) 25.00
Wakefield (201) 22.33
South Lakes (198) 22.00

VHSL-helper said:

VHSL-helper's 2024 Region 2C cheat sheet

VHSL-helper's 2024 Region 2C tightened cheat sheet

VHSL-helper's 2024 Region 2D cheat sheet

VHSL-helper's 2024 Region 2D tightened cheat sheet

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Hard to believe Radford is ahead of Glenvar in 2C.

GoBlue2109 said:

Looking at both of their schedules up to this point neither one should be considered the best to me. We kill KG and Eastern View for supposedly weak schedules and it’s the same with these two teams. At least in Huguenots case they were just locked into a weak Dominion district this year. Matoaca's OOD schedule was terrible.

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Huguenot did the best they could in a year 2 of a two year cycle. It sucks that that district only allows for 1-2 OOD games.

I think EV and KG played better schedules this season. Matoaca has coasted all year.

thanks!

RTDBFootballCoach said:

Any way I could get a region 3D version of this?? I think this is sweet

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it's there now... daggone hafta wait like 4 minutes between posting new threads

BoKnowsSports said:

Them Varina Blue Devils and Huguenot Falcons took care of business against two teams with a combined 15-3. record. Going to be hard scoring on Varina’s defense thru the air and hard stopping that Huguenot offense. Wild that Huguenot has gone 9-0 and beat Manchester, Bird and Midlo in blowout fashion and Matoaca is considered the best team in the 804 by multiple outlets. Varina’s mistakes early on in the season, may have cost them a 1 seed. We wouldn’t be having any discussions had they beaten Indian River.

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Looking at both of their schedules up to this point neither one should be considered the best to me. We kill KG and Eastern View for supposedly weak schedules and its the same with these two teams. At least in Huguenots case they were just locked into a weak Dominion district this year. Matoaca's OOD schedule was terrible.

Any way I could get a region 3D version of this?? I think this is sweet

The meeting was earlier today. We should know something shortly.

OCBoy said:

It’s my understanding it’s 3 superintendents

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Thanks for the info. I believe the composition of the Appeals Committee and the transparency with which they operate will be critical to how the final result is perceived. By the transparency with which they operate, I mean not only the disclosure of the decision but, discussion and disclosure, as allowed and appropriate, of the information and arguments from BOTH sides that they considered in reaching their decision.

One question, does anybody know who the members of the appeals committee are and, if so, has that information been made public any where?

I also agree with OCBoy that this is already a disaster or, maybe more aptly, a bad joke. One group does an "investigation" and fully exonerates while a second group does an "investigation" and recommends a 2 year post season ban. Now they want a third group to call balls and strikes and decide the outcome? The disparity in the findings between the first two groups makes this far more than a difference of opinion to be resolved by an independent third party. I also doubt anyone is coming out of this vindicated or looking good.