CRF4Dan said:

My thought process has been going here for a while. I have a class for all-star teams and let them duke it out for a championship. They have a different set of rules and guidelines and schools can appeal to play in that class if they so choose. Then you have a 4-class system with the other schools. Pretty simple in theory.

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I proposed this the other day. Have an Open Division. Teams can play whoever they want and aren't assigned a district and therefore do not have a district schedule. School size doesn't matter (so if a 300 student school wants to be in an Open Division, then they run the risk of playing against a 3000 student school). I would say that a minimum of 16 teams are needed to create the division. Have a selection committee choose the Top 8 and have three rounds of playoffs. Then, they can decide their little state champion so they can feel good about being different from the other schools.

SPL311U said:

But wait it gets better…🙄…

Reid summons coaches to Gatehouse meeting after leveling racism charge

Fairfax County Public Schools Superintendent Michelle Reid has summoned to a meeting tonight at Gatehouse headquarters the six football coaches who sent her a letter on Monday expressing a vote

www.fairfaxtimes.com

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Not surprising to be honest.

Wanting to see a "Nobody gave us a chance" rant from Coach Bradley. Should be a great game. Rooting for whoever comes out to win it all.

I'm looking forward to coming down to watch this one. I don't think it will quite live up to the classic from a couple of seasons ago, but I hope we get some good football.

Unpopular as this may sound, I don't see Dinwiddie having too much difficulty with King George. I did see King George beat a pretty bad Spotsylvania team which came out flat but showed signs of quickness. And Spotsylvania's occasional flash of speed, nice play fakes, and full blown carelessness ended up leading this game to finish with *just* a three score win for King George.

I know there is some rain forecast in the region between now and Saturday. Not sure if any is slated to fall in Dinwiddie and I'm not sure if there's any that will fall on Friday. If it does, it may present a sloppy track in the Second Half. And if that's the case, I like the balance Dinwiddie has to either grind you down or hit them with a big running play.

Lakelife said:

Safe travels !!! Altavista by 30

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Thanks and man I really hope you are wrong lol.

South County
Fairfax


CLASS 4 PLAYOFFS

Huguenot
Sherando
Dinwiddie
Tuscarora
Hampton
Salem
John Champe


CLASS 5 PLAYOFFS

Matoaca
Indian River
Louisa County
Briar Woods
King's Fork
Stone Bridge

CLASS 3 PLAYOFFS

Abingdon
Turner Ashby
Kettle Run
Liberty Christian
Magna Vista
Thomas Jefferson R
IC Norcom

CLASS 6 PLAYOFFS
North Stafford
Highland Springs
George Washington Lib
Oscar Smith
Battlefield
James Madison


CLASS 2 PLAYOFFS

King William
Gretna
Poquoson
Buckingham
Strasburg
Union
Graham


CLASS 1 PLAYOFFS

Buffalo Gap
George Wythe W
Rye Cove
Eastside
Essex
Bath County
Altavista
Rappahannock

catchtds said:

LCA better bring their A game as well. These two teams are not strangers and are well coached. I expect a lower score and closer game this time around.

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I completely agree. Some of the best games in recent years in central/southwest VA have been between LCA and Heritage. Besides LCA's 42-0 over Heritage last year, there's never any doubt that the two teams will scrap and fight for every last inch on the field every time they line up. Can't wait to see how Friday night plays out

CentralVAFootballFan said:

LCA has also improved quite a bit since the matchup back in September. I don't want to take anything away from Heritage despite their struggles toward the end of the regular season, but if they don't being their A(+) game, I don't see them having a chance on Friday.

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LCA better bring their A game as well. These two teams are not strangers and are well coached. I expect a lower score and closer game this time around.

Bfootball08 said:

I agree Mike but it's just gonna depend on which Heritage team shows up. Can't be the one that showed up against Glass and Brookville, if that happens it will be over quick. If they can slow Gideon Davidson down enough to stay close in the 4th I believe they will have a good shot at the W.

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LCA has also improved quite a bit since the matchup back in September. I don't want to take anything away from Heritage despite their struggles toward the end of the regular season, but if they don't being their A(+) game, I don't see them having a chance on Friday.

Who doubted them all season the first matchup between them and mc was a dog fight and outside of the central lundberg and Woodstock game they were uncontested that why they are undefeated and only a 4th seed! I think it will be a good game u wanted opinions I watched Madison play Clarke last week and they absolutely dominated all aspects of the game so yes i believe if they play like that again they will win! So I’ll ask again what’s your thoughts on the game?

1MoreHokie said:

Go read the Riverheads/Stuarts Draft thread in C2 boards, that one's a doozy.

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My God man… Got a headache out the azz from the first 3 posts 😂 I need somebody to smack me if I ever rant and ramble like that.

Madison Co @ Buckingham!!!!!
Bruton @ King William
Allehany @ Turner Ashby
Magna Vista @ Lord Botetourt
Floyd Co @ Glenvar
Grayson Co @ George Wythe
Virginia @ Graham
Patrick Henry @ Eastside
Grundy @ Rye Cove

GOTW***3 Points each
Riverheads @ Strasburg
Gretna @ Radford
Union @ Ridgeview

gwb16 said:

........ I can't help but wonder if there was some sort of professional relationship that existed between Reid and the Hayside Principal and AD prior to their hiring....that would make for an interesting "oh by the way" storyline....

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I have no proof, but early in this debacle I recall there was an article or post that Reid knows the principal well from another job or school system.

bullrunmanic8771 said:

You changed your original reply why? So tell us what you really think!!

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So did the other poster in this thread... My original reply was that the BC doubters are still alive and well

You changed your original reply why? So tell us what you really think!!

757FridayNiteZ said:

I had a HS coach tell my child that if they wanted to be considered for a starter on his team, they'd need to join HIS off season travel team! This should never be allowed. The conflict is clear.

Those "other entities" are utilized to entice families to do what we see in these All Star type teams. The other way to go about this is to go ahead & allow a Cali type league that is segregated as such but not eligible for VHSL championships. Let them schedule private schools & the National powers just keep it out of the VHSL. For me, it's the unfair level of competition the current system has produced.

IF parent choice actually occurs, with pretty much open enrollment, then there's a good chance this academy type school for sports will be the natural progression of things anyway.

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My thought process has been going here for a while. I have a class for all-star teams and let them duke it out for a championship. They have a different set of rules and guidelines and schools can appeal to play in that class if they so choose. Then you have a 4-class system with the other schools. Pretty simple in theory.

BoKnowsSports said:

Not really. Much worse happens with SOLs, negligence, accreditation, etc and principals re-land relatively easy. FCPS has backed Hayfield through all of this and if they do end up back peddling, it’ll be minimal. If FCPS hasn’t “found” anything, unless Hayfield is stupid, the worse I see happening is forfeiting games. The only reason it’s gone this far is you have a bunch people with resources going after the state’s largest school division. Money and conflict of interest within litigation will save Hayfield and that school division.

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We will have to agree to disagree. I doubt any of the things you characterize as much worse has generated the notoriety surrounding the Hayfield/FCPS situation and the situation has elements(negligence, fraud, etc.) found in the things you describe as "much worse." What else is FCPS going to do other than back Hayfield? They are in this thing up to their eyeballs after their "investigation" if not before. I think you misread the situation, particularly the part about a bunch of people with resources going after the state's largest school division. Who do you believe those people with resources might be? All I see are schools and neighboring school divisions impacted by the FCPS failures challenging them. I think your last line about money and conflict of interest is a stretch but, without further explanation of what you really mean and are trying to say I cannot challenge or determine whether I have misinterpreted what you mean.

Not to mention, Varina’s been playing some of their best football in the past month

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Not really. Much worse happens with SOLs, negligence, accreditation, etc and principals re-land relatively easy. FCPS has backed Hayfield through all of this and if they do end up back peddling, it’ll be minimal. If FCPS hasn’t “found” anything, unless Hayfield is stupid, the worse I see happening is forfeiting games. The only reason it’s gone this far is you have a bunch people with resources going after the state’s largest school division. Money and conflict of interest within litigation will save Hayfield and that school division.

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There are a variety of reasons why Hayfield has been targeted in this instance and I guess you could say being used to make an example out of. I don't believe it is the money portion although I might be naïve to that aspect. I think the two things drawing the ire is:

1) The number of recruits. We all knows kids are transferring, schools/coaches are recruiting but to the magnitude of which it happened was so blatant that of course it caught everyone's attention. Had it been 3-5 I dont think we get this far.

2) While at Freedom, Overton and those associated with Freedom liked to say something to the effect of "Freedom by 50" and they routinely crushed, embarrassed teams. Yes, they have the talent to do it but I think of coaches in the Richmond area, there is comraderies, there is friendship, there is respect. I cannot imagine Overton had good relationships or respect from other area coaches so naturally it made him public enemy #1 in those ranks.

Just my opinion FWIW

BoKnowsSports said:

This thread and the Hayfield talk is tiring as hell. Too many good games going on to be caught up in this drama. If LCA is allowed to play public school ball, John Marshall is allowed to play C2 ball, and states actually acknowledging the “high school portal”, you think think this is going to be any different. Coaches have done what these guys have done for years, these cats were just arrogant and loud.

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Go read the Riverheads/Stuarts Draft thread in C2 boards, that one's a doozy.

bullrunmanic8771 said:

If Madison goes out and plays like they did against Clarke won’t be a question of who wins but by how many points does MC win by!!!!!!!

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LOL I guess only time will tell....

This thread and the Hayfield talk is tiring as hell. Too many good games going on to be caught up in this drama. If LCA is allowed to play public school ball, John Marshall is allowed to play C2 ball, and states actually acknowledging the “high school portal”, you think think this is going to be any different. Coaches have done what these guys have done for years, these cats were just arrogant and loud.

I think people forget at seasons end last year Dinwiddie was decimated at the skill position. Not taking anything away from KG but it really took the wheels falling off for King George to start pulling away in the 2nd half. I think Dinwiddie will be ok defensively this week because the King George QB isn't a dynamic runner like Bryce Yates at Matoaca.

cutnjump said:

Given the publicity this situation has generated it could likely be more difficult than you imagine, particularly in areas of reasonable proximity. When playoff schedules and eligibility are getting adjusted and courts/lawyers are involved this has become much more than a minor dustup and could follow those involved for at least some period of time. This likely follows the old adage that it is the cover up more often than the crime that creates the problem.

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Not really. Much worse happens with SOLs, negligence, accreditation, etc and principals re-land relatively easy. FCPS has backed Hayfield through all of this and if they do end up back peddling, it’ll be minimal. If FCPS hasn’t “found” anything, unless Hayfield is stupid, the worse I see happening is forfeiting games. The only reason it’s gone this far is you have a bunch people with resources going after the state’s largest school division. Money and conflict of interest within litigation will save Hayfield and that school division.