FoxesPride said:

Some school officials make more than the President and cabinet secretaries....pretty sure the President and say, the Secretary of Defense, should be making more than the Superintendent of Fairfax County schools...just saying

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The old Babe Ruth line when he was questioned about making more than the President comes to mind. He replied, "I had a better year than he did." In this situation the FCPS superintendent and the current sitting President would appear to have their own individual challenges. ;-)

This whole investigation of going to open a larger investigation into all the transfer players in the county/state. Hayfield has grossly abused the system from the articles and evidence presented, but I’m not naive to think they’re the only school who’s benefitted from a “you should play for us” and let’s make it happen motto. If they do begin digging there’d be a lot of vacated titles but that’s a what if and potential real possibility. Most families don’t move the just use an address and get mail there …

1MoreHokie said:

No, she got mad a coach pointed out teachers up there got bupkis for a pay raise while she took home a large increase. Like most upper-level management, they have zero ability to show proof of their worth being commiserate with their pay so she's pivoting to racism to try and go on the offensive.

Rich people haaaaaaaaaaate when you question their paychecks because they know they can't stand on solid ground. Superintendents clearing half a mil in some places while their teachers need two jobs to survive, it's BS.

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Some school officials make more than the President and cabinet secretaries....pretty sure the President and say, the Secretary of Defense, should be making more than the Superintendent of Fairfax County schools...just saying

I won't use the word "dishonest" about this discussion or any other but if there is one situation in the VHSL that needs addressing, it is the LCA football and John Marshall basketball programs. Last I heard in high school ball, you are supposed to play for the school that is closest to where you live. So you can't tell me that all these world-class athletes establish residences in those two areas every year. In fact wouldn't it be interesting to do a study some time and see how fast they head back to their home towns once those state titles have been won?

Now if those are considered private boarding schools and the athletes qualify on that basis, then fine, but let them compete in the private school leagues. It is totally unfair year in and year out for Virginia's public schools in those classifications and those sports to start practicing, knowing from the beginning that they will not have a shot at a state title.

BoKnowsSports said:

Hayfield’s principal (Darin Thompson) is a Richmond guy. As principal, he helped Varina get over the hump as they won back to back basketball state championships in 2022 and 2023 and the football state championship in 2021. He’s a pro-athletics principal. He won’t have much trouble finding another job if he ends up out .

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Given the publicity this situation has generated it could likely be more difficult than you imagine, particularly in areas of reasonable proximity. When playoff schedules and eligibility are getting adjusted and courts/lawyers are involved this has become much more than a minor dustup and could follow those involved for at least some period of time. This likely follows the old adage that it is the cover up more often than the crime that creates the problem.

BoKnowsSports said:

D’Lo Ramsey is one of the best RBs I’ve ever seen play with my own two eyes.

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Yeah, he is definitely the biggest “what if”. Man, the dude would’ve been fun to watch on Sundays.

MrSalem1000 said:

I think the two best running backs to come through Salem has been Peyton Lewis and Deangelo Ramsey. Peyton Lewis was faster than Deangelo was but I think Deangelo was more physical. I think Deangelo could’ve made it to the NFL. I think Peyton will play on Sundays. If he doesn’t get drafted I’m sure he will get picked up as a undrafted free agent

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D’Lo Ramsey is one of the best RBs I’ve ever seen play with my own two eyes.

The coaches all know there's a problem & they're the best group to police this. Develop a code of ethics, require certification & sanction your own. Decertify the bad apples

Because a lot of these problems are connected to youth leagues, a statewide association/ union is likely required. The connections with the side gig, training academies & 7vs7 leagues needs to be recognized as the conflict of interest that they are! In no way should HS or MS coaches be involved in those activities, period.

Honestly, Peyton’s freshman season at Tennessee hasn’t been bad. 45 carries for 216 yards and 1 TD. Averaging 4.8 yards per carry. I think he will get better and better as his college career goes on. I find myself watching Tennessee more often then I used to with a big reason of that being I want to see how he does when he gets in during the games 😂

CRF4Dan said:

I'd be shocked if it changes. What I believe will ultimately happen is Hayfield will win their region, maybe advance to state championship, win or don't win. After the season any wins will be vacated just like college, Overton and the admin will be gone and next years team misses playoffs as they pay the reprecussions.

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Hayfield’s principal (Darin Thompson) is a Richmond guy. As principal, he played a huge part in getting Varina over the hump as they won back to back basketball state championships in 2022 and 2023 and the football state championship in 2021. He’s a pro-athletics principal. He won’t have much trouble finding another job if he ends up out at Hayfield.

I think the two best running backs to come through Salem has been Peyton Lewis and Deangelo Ramsey. Peyton Lewis was faster than Deangelo was but I think Deangelo was more physical. I think Deangelo could’ve made it to the NFL. I think Peyton will play on Sundays. If he doesn’t get drafted I’m sure he will get picked up as a undrafted free agent

mike salem said:

C6 Reg C all play Thur, next Tue, and then next Sat. to catch back up in the playoffs. I guess if Hayfield is still eligible they'll be playing tomorrow night. That's the story today anyway, might be completely different tomorrow?

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I'd be shocked if it changes. What I believe will ultimately happen is Hayfield will win their region, maybe advance to state championship, win or don't win. After the season any wins will be vacated just like college, Overton and the admin will be gone and next years team misses playoffs as they pay the reprecussions.

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MrSalem1000 said:

Is Hayfield playing tommorow? I know MaxPreps isn’t always accurate but it has them scheduled to play tommorow

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C6 Reg C all play Thur, next Tue, and then next Sat. to catch back up in the playoffs. I guess if Hayfield is still eligible they'll be playing tomorrow night. That's the story today anyway, might be completely different tomorrow?

Is Hayfield playing tommorow? I know MaxPreps isn’t always accurate but it has them scheduled to play tommorow

Interestingly enough, the Planning Commission met last night in Bluefield just as this situation was unfolding. There is another meeting on December 2nd I believe. This playoff situation may be the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak and push the decision to build a stadium to go along with the brand new turf field at the high school.

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Gridiron1960 said:

I just want someone to translate HokiePokie speak 😂. It hurts my head trying to read it.

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1MoreHokie said:

Ramsey had 2300+ yards, 28 rushing TDs (I think a few receiving TDs) on nearly 12 ypc in 2017. Didn't play opener against Amherst, was sparingly used most of the season until Luke Owens got hurt in week 9 against CS and they were forced to use Ramsey. I actually remember talking to my dad when Owens went down and remarking that the injury had just won Salem state.

They gave a lot, and I mean a lot, of Ramsey's work between the 20s to Owens at the goal line or Ramsey probably has 38-40 TDs that season. Used to his full potential under different circumstances, that kid probably could have done 3500 and 45-50 TDs.

Remember talking to Robert Anderson at a Glenvar/Appo game a couple years ago, he called Ramsey Roanoke Valley's biggest "what if", said he had Sunday potential and I didn't disagree.

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To date, I think Dennis Haley is the only Spartan to play in regular season NFL games. Perhaps Peyton Lewis and Chris Cole can add to that list in a few years.

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Ramsey had 2300+ yards, 28 rushing TDs (I think a few receiving TDs) on nearly 12 ypc in 2017. Didn't play opener against Amherst, was sparingly used most of the season until Luke Owens got hurt in week 9 against CS and they were forced to use Ramsey. I actually remember talking to my dad when Owens went down and remarking that the injury had just won Salem state.

They gave a lot, and I mean a lot, of Ramsey's work between the 20s to Owens at the goal line or Ramsey probably has 38-40 TDs that season. Used to his full potential under different circumstances, that kid probably could have done 3500 and 45-50 TDs.

Remember talking to Robert Anderson at a Glenvar/Appo game a couple years ago, he called Ramsey Roanoke Valley's biggest "what if", said he had Sunday potential and I didn't disagree.

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CrushBlock said:

glad people put respect on his name. A legendary Salem running back that people tend to forget in conversations about Salem running backs, partially because Salem has had so many greats, and partially because he played on a “bad” Salem team.

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I remember "The Comeback" Cave Spring had beaten Salem 34-6 in 2010. They were looking for a repeat performance the following year. They jump out to a 26-0 lead. Salem methodically claws back, but still trail 26-7 with only a couple minutes left in the 3rd. Put the cape on #6 and he and the Spartans refused to lose, scoring 22 unanswered to complete the comeback 29-26.

The big question is, which one to 15+ penalties. I see PFs for days in this one.