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Clarke County: 23.00000
Buffalo Gap: 22.75000
Goochland: 22.42857
Amelia County: 21.00000
Washington & Lee: 20.75000
King William: 20.62500
R.E. Lee.: 20.37500
Greensville: 19.50000
George Mason: 19.14286
Brunswick: 19.00000
Strasburg: 18.62500
Stuarts Draft: 18.37500
Central (W): 18.12500
East Rockingham: 17.00000
Wilson Memorial: 16.25000
Arcadia: 15.00000
 
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The east is definitely down a little this year. Losing Riverheads to 1A and the dropoff at Wilson Memorial aren't helping any.

Some of it is also just the teams others are forced to play I believe. Buffalo gap only played 1 3A team (Which is Fort Defiance and hasn't yeilded any rider points.) Their opponents have won 50% of their games.

Clarke's opponents have only won 36% of their games and then you have Goochland who's opponents have won 64% of theirs.

I personally think the West has the teams to beat, but I have learned to never sleep on a team like Goochland. Arguably the best coaching staff in 2A.
 
Clarke County has 4 games against 3a and 2 against 4a. It is a shame that the only one of those teams that are having a good year is 4a Millbrook which we lost to 20-14.
 
I seriously thought Randolph Henry was going to be over .500 this season with UVA product Joe Reed at QB. Last year they had him at WR.
 
RichlandsRyan said:
The fact that the highest rated East team is still a full point below the 6th seeded West team is telling of just how hard the other side of the bracket really is.
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Not necessarily. It could be like the SEC, they just beat up on each other during the regular season.
 
2A Clarke is in the Bull Run district while 4A Millbrook is in the Northwestern district. The schools are only about 6 miles apart. A lot of the kids from both schools do grow up playing together in various youth sports leagues.
 
Marshall-Dillon said:
Seriously, the only high school in a county that size, with that population and you only have 700 students in grade 9-12? Hmm...................
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Yes, we only have around 700 in grade 9-12. I don't know what you think the number should be, but there is a large home-schooling contingent here, as well as private schoolers as well. We have 1 middle school (Johnson Williams), and 2 elementary schools (Boyce and D.G. Cooley).
 
RHHS is improved over last year.... Reed has done a very good job at QB but as you know there are 10 other spots on each side of the ball that have to pull their weight too.... Coach McPherson has done a solid job at RH in his first year and I think the team should finish 5-5. Close loss to Lunenburg and in the same league as Goochland and Buckingham.... they might even be in playoff consideration if they were still in the East where they rightfully should be.......
 
billycat18 said:
RHHS is improved over last year.... Reed has done a very good job at QB but as you know there are 10 other spots on each side of the ball that have to pull their weight too.... Coach McPherson has done a solid job at RH in his first year and I think the team should finish 5-5. Close loss to Lunenburg and in the same league as Goochland and Buckingham.... they might even be in playoff consideration if they were still in the East where they rightfully should be.......
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Yeah, joe is a phenomenal athlete. He ran for 60+ yarder and flipped the feild one time with another 60+ yarder for a TD vs. Appo during a scrimmage (preseason). He will make u miss. Yeah, i thought they were in the east, my bad. I knew last year having him at WR was gonna be a bust for RHHS. Same thing i thought about Von Bennett for Gretna. Should've been at QB all season and not playing WR. They would've had a better season as well.
 
ClarkeFan83 said:
Yes, we only have around 700 in grade 9-12. I don't know what you think the number should be, but there is a large home-schooling contingent here, as well as private schoolers as well. We have 1 middle school (Johnson Williams), and 2 elementary schools (Boyce and D.G. Cooley).
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I stand corrected. I thought (don't know why) that Clarke had a much larger enrollment. Maybe because the other schools around there/Winchester are much larger.
 
Even though Millbrook is much larger than Clarke, I'm glad Clarke scheduled the game against them. They should play more Northwestern district teams. The Bull Run simply doesn't provide enough of a challenge to prepare them for the playoffs,
 
Marshall-Dillon said:
I stand corrected. I thought (don't know why) that Clarke had a much larger enrollment. Maybe because the other schools around there/Winchester are much larger.
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Yeah, the Supervisors in Clarke have a slow growth, agriculture friendly plan here. Lots of land in conservation easements. Frederick County is looking to add a 4th High School very soon.
 
obguthr said:
Even though Millbrook is much larger than Clarke, I'm glad Clarke scheduled the game against them. They should play more Northwestern district teams. The Bull Run simply doesn't provide enough of a challenge to prepare them for the playoffs,
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I would have to say that the Millbrook game was the best game for them. I'm glad Clarke scheduled Handley, just bummed that Handley is in a downward spiral. That is an old school rivalry for sure! I don't know how Clarke would fare against Sherando, but they've played James Wood and handled them easily before.
 
Trust me, Sherando is another beast altogether. I am not sure the Eagles would benefit from that match up. But maybe. The Bull Run will be back. It is unusual that so many schools in a district are down at the same time but I expect things to right in the near future. Clarke will have its turn in the barrel. I recall when Clarke could hardly win a game in or out of the district. Things change.
 
Clarke County has indeed had some time in the barrel, but has a good group of seniors and juniors currently and the Freshmen team has played well the past few seasons:

2014: 11-1
2013: 12-1
2012: 6-5
2011: 7-4
2010: 9-2
2009: 10-1
2008: 9-3
2007: 8-3
2006: 2-8
2005: 4-6
2004: 5-5
2003: 5-5
2002: 4-5
2001: 4-6
2000: 0-9
1999: 0-8
 
HS-SportsFan said:
Clarke County has indeed had some time in the barrel, but has a good group of seniors and juniors currently and the Freshmen team has played well the past few seasons:

2014: 11-1
2013: 12-1
2012: 6-5
2011: 7-4
2010: 9-2
2009: 10-1
2008: 9-3
2007: 8-3
2006: 2-8
2005: 4-6
2004: 5-5
2003: 5-5
2002: 4-5
2001: 4-6
2000: 0-9
1999: 0-8
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They had some successful teams in the 90's. I remember playing them a few times in the playoffs of old region B division 1. I remember playing them (1991 or 92) and something happened at their school (they were the higher seed) and instead of us traveling up to Clarke, they had to come to us. It became a home game for us and we were able to pull out the win. Then we played them again in 1995 and this time we were the higher seed to host. They had a set of twins (WR and RB) who were really good. However, we were able to slow them down enough to pick up the win.
 
Clarke faced Nandua and Nottoway last year. This year those teams aren't doing too well, why? Just asking, not insinuating or trying to start anything. I noticed in previous years Clarke faced Buckingham in the first round, Clarke lost both times, home and away.

Hope we don't have to face Buckingham this year!
 
Nottaway graduated most of their starters from last year. If you face Buckingham this year, it would be in the semi's or championship game.....
 
piz hokies said:
They had some successful teams in the 90's. I remember playing them a few times in the playoffs of old region B division 1. I remember playing them (1991 or 92) and something happened at their school (they were the higher seed) and instead of us traveling up to Clarke, they had to come to us. It became a home game for us and we were able to pull out the win. Then we played them again in 1995 and this time we were the higher seed to host. They had a set of twins (WR and RB) who were really good. However, we were able to slow them down enough to pick up the win.
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Are you sure about the dates? I recall Clarke being really bad until mid-2000. The Shiley twins played then. I am not aware of other twins there but I am sure one of the Clark folks will know.
 
Clarke was very good in early 90s (89-92). The "other" twins people are referring to were the Morgan twins. They were the younger brothers of Bo Morgan (Cchs all time leading rusher who graduated in 92). The Morgan twins would have graduated around 96. Clarke held their own through that time and for a few years after. Rough time hit late 90s-early 2000's. 2007--chandler Rhoads helped bring clarke back to major relevance. Shiley twins were sophomores on that team. So basically the run has been from 07-till now.
 
I married a Madison "girl" in mid 90's so that is my time frame of reference of this district. I think the reason people may not give Clarke their due is that other teams from the Bull Run (and former Skyline District) won on a state level when they were having "runs". Madison was in the state championship game something like 9-10 times. I know they have won 3. Manassas Park won one and was runner up in another. Not sure about Strasburg's championships but when they are good, they go "deep". Clarke hasn't made the semis during their "run". Until they do, expect the naysayers.
 
Strasburg has never won one. Lost in championship 2-3 times under Proctor. No one is worried about the naysayers as the vast majority of the state would love to be on the run that Clarke has experienced since 07. Sadly- too many "experts" on this forum think you have to win a state title to be a good program. Pretty sure Madison and Manassas Park would trade roles since 07. In my humble opinion a sign of a good program is being able to maintain success and not bottle it up for one year. When that good program is down you still have to try and find a way to win games and keep your head above water and stay relevant. Too many programs have a good year here and there but can't maintain it. I would take a program rather than the flash in te pan and then go forgotten.
People need to realize that only one team and fan base are happy at the end of a season. Needless to say for a team to win 5 postseason games it takes a few things--good matchups/a little luck/and stay healthy. Clarke hasn't had too much of that luck in regards to health over the years in the postseason. Oh and yes-- I understand that injuries are part of the game but to withstand "major" kids taking those injuries are hard to bounce back from

Good luck to all the teams tomorrow night
 
Clarke has a wonderful feeder system, these kids start early! There's not much else to do on a Friday night that doesn't get you into trouble here. The emphasis on strength training the last few years has also really paid off. Rogers sat out last week's game due to an injury suffered in previous week, dunno if they'll use him this week or next, just let him heal before playoffs imho.

It's Senior night for this Friday night's game against Warren County, then we play at Madison County the next Friday. I think I'm gonna have to make the trip to get me a ribeye sandwich at MC!!!
 
Madison and Strasburg had 300+ win hall of fame coaches retire in the not so distant past. I would not call either program a flash in the pan. Madison has won state titles in three different decades.
 
Easy big fella---not calling either a flash in the pan--go back and read it but thanks for making my point very clear in regards to a program!!!!!! You read way too much into the post. General speaking there. I, too, call them both programs as I respect both.
 
Whatever you say. Since winning championships is not a measure you place value in, I am sure you are very content with your post season results.
 
Wrong again. I just don't base a programs worth on a state championship. That isn't fair to the kids and program itself. I tend to look at the big picture. For example how Madison hasn't beaten Clarke since 2004.....those are just the small things. I just wouldn't bash another program like you do on a regular basis until you can compete with them.
Certainly- I would like to see Clarke win more playoff games and ultimately a state title as I would any BRD school however I've witnessed each one and come to a very logical conclusion on why a game was won or lost without saying "they can't win a big game".
Good luck vs. Mason
 
White&Blue, if winning state titles is your definition of a programs success, what is being done to ever return Madison to that level of play? Are the boosters pushing for a new coaching staff, is your rec football feeder system being evaluated for needed changes, or has the Madison fan base become content with the current state of the program?
 
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Beats me, I am not in the boosters. I just find it comical that some Clarke fans act as if they are the sun and the moon for high school football...but have never won anything more than a district title.

I mean seriously, how many times can you say "every team would like to have our success" ? What success? Hate to tell you but in the current set up, winning a district title in football means little.

Some Clarke people (not all) act like everybody should be in awe of your regular season success. What is the only thing keeping Peyton Manning from being the greatest QB of all time? His perceived lack of post season success...and he has won a title. Like it or not, the post season is important. Here is my totally unsolicited and worthless advice:

Win something then stick out your chest all you like. Until then, maybe dial it back on "you wish you were us" attitude. No. No I don't.
 
Well good, you got all riled up, so that can only mean that folks in Madison aren't content with the current state of the program. Here's hoping Madison starts winning lots of games next year, as the Bull Run district would greatly benefit from that.

Good luck on Friday evening against Mason and containing Noble, he's definitely the one that makes or breaks Mason's offense.
 
so.......you never answered sports fans question? In the same token-- you hang your hat on a state title that was last won moons ago or 3 in 3 decades but have won nothing in a long time. The world of football has transformed mightily in the past 15 years and from the previous 30 years and I mean big time. So congrats on the rings and I sincerely mean that but I would venture to say it's time to get Madison in the right direction before critiquing Clarke.
I don't see anyone poking chests out from clarke until someone like you tries to ruffle feathers and hasn't beaten them in 11 years.
 
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