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That is true but aren't you just a little bit curious. Just for fun. Like a beifitt game.I think these two are the best teams in the country, not by much, but still the best two. Could ucf or Ohio St. beat them? Well yes. Anything can happen in one game, but if it was best out of 7 I don't think so.
They did not beat that team until the final four were picked. They needed to have played a much tougher out of conference schedule. They didn't. Because of that they weren't even ranked in the top 8. They would have been left out if the playoffs had been expanded.UCF has a better claim on a national championship this year than many P5 teams have on their disputed national championships several decades back. It's a sad state of affairs when an undefeated team that beat the team that beat the two finalists isn't even given consideration to be in the playoffs. The FBS is a broken system.
I agree with you 100%.They did not beat that team until the final four were picked. They needed to have played a much tougher out of conference schedule. They didn't. Because of that they weren't even ranked in the top 8. They would have been left out if the playoffs had been expanded.
Same thing. One game who knows what would have happened. Best out of seven I think Salem wins. Salem's defense would have slowed down Sr. Don't think Sr defense slows down Salem. Salem beat Blacksburg badly and beat Byrd twice (both times at Byrd) SR lost to those teamsI agree with you 100%.
It's always fun to dream even about things that will never happen. Kind of like what the results of the 2016 Staunton River vs. 2016 Salem. Because we known that will never happen.
This team beats that team which means that team beats this team but they never played each another. Im so confused. Not a very solid argument because the game never happened and never will. It's always fun to dream and wounder.Same thing. One game who knows what would have happened. Best out of seven I think Salem wins. Salem's defense would have slowed down Sr. Don't think Sr defense slows down Salem. Salem beat Blacksburg badly and beat Byrd twice (both times at Byrd) SR lost to those teams
When they don't play all you have is comparative scores, the eye test, and what history teaches us. In this case history teaches us when it matters most don't bet against Salem.This team beats that team which means that team beats this team but they never played each another. Im so confused. Not a very solid argument because the game never happened and never will. It's always fun to dream and wounder.
UCF would lose to Bama , maybe beat Georgia with a perfect game. Come on man, Auburn didn’t show up, y’all have to understand Bama vs Auburn is like throw the records out . Bama will show up next Monday and prove they are the best team. If UCF wants to play for National championships they should schedule like the best do. Then we will see what they have done over a whole season. Just my 2 cents..I think the winner should have to play UCF.
They did not beat that team until the final four were picked. They needed to have played a much tougher out of conference schedule. They didn't. Because of that they weren't even ranked in the top 8. They would have been left out if the playoffs had been expanded.
If they go to eight they should do away with conference championship games. Under the current rules I think they got it right. I do not think cfu was better than Wisconsin, Ohio State, Southern Cal, or Penn St. . But that's me. I was not that impressed with what I saw. Auburn was unmotivated in that game. Also Auburn was not that good away from home
Yes.Sort of unrelated, but would you also remove divisions from the conferences?
This team beats that team which means that team beats this team but they never played each another. Im so confused. Not a very solid argument because the game never happened and never will. It's always fun to dream and wounder.
Same thing. One game who knows what would have happened. Best out of seven I think Salem wins. Salem's defense would have slowed down Sr. Don't think Sr defense slows down Salem. Salem beat Blacksburg badly and beat Byrd twice (both times at Byrd) SR lost to those teams
Ok I'll bite. (Let me remind everyone we are talking about 2016 season.)Don't be so sure that Salem would have slowed that offense. Ask 2016 Hopewell (2017 state champs) CONGRATULATIONS by the way. The semi game score was 62-12 SR end of the third with our #2's playing there #1's the entire 4th except for one play. First Salem would have had to figure it out. By the time you do,than its to late. Didn't Salem 2017 win there playoff game with Blacksburg this year by one to pretty much the same Blacksburg team as there 2016 minus the some good lineman. Blacksburg also has who knows how many years experience against the single wing with playing Giles every year. + excellent Blacksburg coach. Also to adress the Bryd game that was the week of hurricane rains from the south and most of those games were either played on Saturday or most on Monday due to terrible field conditions. That discion was made by the home team coaching staff to play. It was either play or forfeit. Can't do that. (Great call on Byrds part) If you didn't have your shoes taped on they would have lost them. When your offense is set up on misdirection, fakes and pitches theres not much room for error. Just glade to get or of there without any injuries. That Salem, Byrd playoff game was very closely contested through the 4th. 24-Wouldn't say that was a dominant. Oh yeah and the kicker for the 2016 Salem team is(please correct me if I'm wrong) Ramsey didn't play. So with all that being said maybe that game is a little closer than you may think. *I do agree abour Staunton rivers D that year. Could ha e been a shoot out. But like I said we will never know but it sure is fun to dream.
My original post was referencing th 2016 seasons for both teams and if we averaged all the schools teams the score would probably be Salem 50+ SR 20. Plus I don't think that a 20-28 loss to Blacksburg was losing badly.Well, it's not remotely as complicated as you make it. SR lost to two teams Salem beat (and in the case of Blacksburg last year, badly). I don't see SR moving the ball against Salem much, especially not the 2015 Salem. SR had issues when teams matched their physicality and Salem's had that in spades in recent years.
Just for fun, CalPreps says:
2015 Salem:
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[2015] Salem (VA) 44, [2015] Staunton River (Moneta, VA) 21
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[2015] Salem (VA) 38, [2016] Staunton River (Moneta, VA) 28
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[2015] Salem (VA) 38, [2017] Staunton River (Moneta, VA) 31
2016 Salem:
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[2016] Salem (VA) 46, [2015] Staunton River (Moneta, VA) 22
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[2016] Salem (VA) 40, [2016] Staunton River (Moneta, VA) 31
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[2016] Salem (VA) 40, [2017] Staunton River (Moneta, VA) 34
2017 Salem:
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[2017] Salem (VA) 44, [2015] Staunton River (Moneta, VA) 21
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[2017] Salem (VA) 38, [2016] Staunton River (Moneta, VA) 31
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[2017] Salem (VA) 38, [2017] Staunton River (Moneta, VA) 31
You sound like all the other teams in western Virginia the last four years. JF, GWDanville, Byrd, Northside, Charlottesville, etc , etc. They all feel they have something special for Salem, they all have a plan that's going to somehow make them different. Well you probably know what Mike Tyson said about having a plan "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth". In 2016 SR played two teams that played defense, they lost both games. Salem defense in 2016 better than both those teams.Ok I'll bite. (Let me remind everyone we are talking about 2016 season.)Don't be so sure that Salem would have slowed that offense. Ask 2016 Hopewell (2017 state champs) CONGRATULATIONS by the way. The semi game score was 62-12 SR end of the third with our #2's playing there #1's the entire 4th except for one play. First Salem would have had to figure it out. By the time you do,than its to late. Didn't Salem 2017 win there playoff game with Blacksburg this year by one to pretty much the same Blacksburg team as there 2016 minus the some good lineman. Blacksburg also has who knows how many years experience against the single wing with playing Giles every year. + excellent Blacksburg coach. Also to adress the Bryd game that was the week of hurricane rains from the south and most of those games were either played on Saturday or most on Monday due to terrible field conditions. That discion was made by the home team coaching staff to play. It was either play or forfeit. Can't do that. (Great call on Byrds part) If you didn't have your shoes taped on they would have lost them. When your offense is set up on misdirection, fakes and pitches theres not much room for error. Just glade to get or of there without any injuries. That Salem, Byrd playoff game was very closely contested through the 4th. 24-Wouldn't say that was a dominant. Oh yeah and the kicker for the 2016 Salem team is(please correct me if I'm wrong) Ramsey didn't play. So with all that being said maybe that game is a little closer than you may think. *I do agree abour Staunton rivers D that year. Could ha e been a shoot out. But like I said we will never know but it sure is fun to dream.
My original post was referencing th 2016 seasons for both teams and if we averaged all the schools teams the score would probably be Salem 50+ SR 20. Plus I don't think that a 20-28 loss to Blacksburg was losing badly.
It doesn't sound like you like to give anyone credit but would you at least think it would have been fun to watch.Was referring to how Salem beat Blacksburg (by 35 and it could have been way worse). You lost to a team by 8, Salem had a running clock at the kickoff of the 2nd half against that team.
SR had a good run these past few years and this is not the first time I've had discussions about how Salem vs SR would go but I think Salem is all sorts of wrong for what SR wants to do in a game and I think most of the times they would play would end poorly for SR.
I never once said on any of my posts SR would win. I just simply said it would be interesting and fun. I've always have had a great respect for the Salem program and you will never find any of my posts to the contrary. Everyone wounders what they could do against Goliath.You sound like all the other teams in western Virginia the last four years. JF, GWDanville, Byrd, Northside, Charlottesville, etc , etc. They all feel they have something special for Salem, they all have a plan that's going to somehow make them different. Well you probably know what Mike Tyson said about having a plan "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth". In 2016 SR played two teams that played defense, they lost both games. Salem defense in 2016 better than both those teams.
It doesn't sound like you like to give anyone credit but would you at least think it would have been fun to watch.
Will SR be able to maintain their momentum next year or is there going to be a drop off? When you wonder about that imaginary game with Salem remember the words of Jim. Croce" you don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, you don't pull the mask off of the old lone ranger, and you don't mess around with Jim.I never once said on any of my posts SR would win. I just simply said it would be interesting and fun. I've always have had a great respect for the Salem program and you will never find any of my posts to the contrary. Everyone wounders what they could do against Goliath.
Probably not. But the future is bright. The last couple years have definitely been a special group of kids. They were great ambassadors for our community both on and off the field. I couldn't be more proud of them. They have definitely been great for our community and brought us together. Coach Poston and his staff are great coaches not only the football field but mentoring these young men to be successful off the field.Will SR be able to maintain their momentum next year or is there going to be a drop off? When you wonder about that imaginary game with Salem remember the words of Jim. Croce" you don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, you don't pull the mask off of the old lone ranger, and you don't mess around with Jim.
Yes that Blacksburg loss to Salem was midway through there season and not not the first game like the Salem vs. Amherst game. The Blacksburg in 2016 was a completely different team the second half of the season. Coach made some great changes and the players didn't give up. A remarkable achievement.Was referring to how Salem beat Blacksburg (by 35 and it could have been way worse). You lost to a team by 8, Salem had a running clock at the kickoff of the 2nd half against that team.
SR had a good run these past few years and this is not the first time I've had discussions about how Salem vs SR would go but I think Salem is all sorts of wrong for what SR wants to do in a game and I think most of the times they would play would end poorly for SR.
It was just a great line, had to use it. I'm just a fan, whether I say an arrogant statement on occasion or not is irrelevant. There is no arrogance in the program.Probably not. But the future is bright. The last couple years have definitely been a special group of kids. They were great ambassadors for our community both on and off the field. I couldn't be more proud of them. They have definitely been great for our community and brought us together. Coach Poston and his staff are great coaches not only the football field but mentoring these young men to be successful off the field.
I have see some very positive changes in the program over the past several years. Changes not only at the high school level but down through the JV, middle school and recreation leagues. Teaching and running the same offense through all different levels. I think this is what Salem has done so well for many years but it takes a lot of time and dedication on many levels. I have heard many other Salem fans credit a lot of their sustained success to the "program and system" and being able to insert that " who's next". With Salem they will always be good and when good athletes come they will be great. That is sort of what believe has happened the last several years at SR.
Like I said I've had nothing but respect for Salem and their program. You will never see anything to the contrary in any of my posts. With that being said I don't understand the under tone of arrogance in your last comment. It should be an honor that others look to your program as the gold standard. People are going to natural going to compare their teams to the most successful ones.
Salem has to replace the entire secondary, all receivers, tailback and fullback. They should have an excellent QB, an excellent front 7 on defense, and three starting offensive linemen/tight end The JV team went 9-1 ( lost very close game to Franklin County). The freshman backs on the JV team showed great promise. So I expect a lot of sophomores to play. How quickly they develop will go a long way in determining how the season goes. So if you want to beat Salem you probably need to get them in the first six games or so. History tells us they will improve and be very dangerous in the playoffs. The rumor in Salem is that the 8th grade group has an extraordinary amount of talent. I think that Salem will be good next year but not as explosive as last year.SouthbottomU what is your honest opinion about the 2018 Spartins. Any inside good info. * So I can look really smart to my friends when we talk football.