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Any word on how Grayson, GW and Riverheads appeal's went for sure? May have already been posted here and I overlooked it but just making sure I didn't miss something.
 
I heard that GW and Grayson were denied as well
Will GW and Grayson be leaving the MED? That will just leave a 4 school district, with Bland not playing a district football schedule. Will be tough for Giles and Galax to fill a schedule needing 7 non district games. Both would probably have to really play up to fill a schedule
 
Grayson used to play class 2 and played MED so I figure they will continue to play in the MED
 
For years FC , Grayson and Giles where all class two and played in med with class 1 Galax, Bland , Auburn etc
I know they did that in the past, but the last couple realignment cycles, VHSL has tried to keep the districts all one classification where possible. I didn't know if they had Grayson and GW moving up and going to the TRD or SWD
 
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I know they did that in the past, but the last couple realignment cycles, VHSL has tried to keep the districts all one classification where possible. I didn't know if they had Grayson and GW moving up and going to the TRD or SWD
I doubt it would be the Southwest District as that would have Grayson and George Wythe to shift regions and out of C and into D. I think k they stay. If they were dominating their current district, then I could see them moving to a other, but the MED still has Galax who dominates and Giles is about to have an upswing in talent (lots in the pipeline there) where they will probably make deep playoff runs in Class 1 in 2 years. I think they stay.
 
George Wythe won their appeal.
Interesting.... Wonder how they presented their case to get the VHSL to change their minds? To me if your numbers are class 2 that's where you should play and if your numbers are down the next cycle you move back down. I would think of they won the appeal that Grayson would as well.
 
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September 7 Deadline to notify the VHSL office of intent to appeal.

The Executive Committee’s review of an appeal shall be limited to an evaluation of the written record of the original appeal as published in the appendix of the Recommended Alignment Plan. The Executive Committee shall then issue its decision in response to all such appeals as amendments to its final motion to approve the formal alignment plan. The VHSL’s Executive Director shall inform each appellant school of the Executive Committee’s decision. The decision of the Executive Committee shall be final.

September 21 Executive Committee determines final alignment plan – 2023 - 2027

 
Personally I figure GW and Grayson fudged the numbers to stay in class one. I have no proof just a feeling I get
 
The small, small, smaller schools, it could matter a bit. The Bigger the school, the less it matters. But, you got to draw a line somewhere
I agree but there really isn’t a line. The number seems to be established arbitrarily where it will put approximately the same number of teams in each classification. It isn’t about competitive balance or ensuring the least populous schools have a chance against the most populous. No argument from me on whether any of these schools should play up or down just interesting to see everyone’s take on something that inevitably will continue to be a problem for us in VA.
 
I agree but there really isn’t a line. The number seems to be established arbitrarily where it will put approximately the same number of teams in each classification. It isn’t about competitive balance or ensuring the least populous schools have a chance against the most populous. No argument from me on whether any of these schools should play up or down just interesting to see everyone’s take on something that inevitably will continue to be a problem for us in VA.
Probably trying to keep districts and regions equal as possible is more of a problem than the numbers game.
 
I think Grayson's appeal was more of a travel and district placement concern, than numbers. Guess the appeals judge saw it that way too
They would've stayed in med, the only travel difference would've been playoff time
 

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2022​

THE FUTURE: VHSL Approves Region Alignment for 2023--2027​


After weeks of proposals, objections, and meetings, the Virginia High School League (VHSL) Executive Committee has officially approved the region alignment for its six classifications for the period from July, 2023 to June, 2027.

Please note that the League does make some adjustments to the alignment at the midway point (the summer of 2025) to account for changes in school enrollments, the opening of new schools, consolidation of current schools, etc.

In this piece, we will discuss each region that has a Metro RVA team, how it has changed, and a little information on schools that will be new to our area once postseason play begins.

New teams will be both bold and italicized. All Metro RVA teams will be in bold only unless they have moved regions, then they will be both as well.

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CLASS 6, REGION A: (11 Teams)

Cosby, Deep Run, Glen Allen, Grassfield, Highland Springs, Landstown, Manchester, Meadowbrook, Oscar Smith, Thomas Dale, Western Branch

ANALYSIS: Franklin County, Floyd Kellam and Ocean Lakes all leave the region, as does James River, who, for the first time since the Great Reclassification of 2013, will not be in Class 6. Football fans immediately gravitate, and salivate, at the thought of region championship games between Highland Springs and Oscar Smith. But there's much more to be considered here. For Deep Run and Glen Allen, especially for spring sports, they'll need to get to know a lot of Northern Virginia schools, all of whom populate the other three regions in Class 6. The same goes for field hockey in the fall. As for basketball, bringing in the Springers, Jaguars and Wildcats to join Manchester and Thomas Dale will make region tournaments very interesting. Meadowbrook is really the program behind the eight-ball here. Their road to getting back to deep playoff runs across the board will be even tougher.

CLASS 5, REGION C: (15 Teams)

Albemarle, Clover Hill, Douglas Freeman, Franklin County, Hermitage, J.R. Tucker, James River, L.C. Bird, Louisa, Matoaca, Midlothian, Mills Godwin, Patrick Henry-Roanoke, Prince George, William Fleming

ANALYSIS
: The region, by far, has the biggest changes, even with three Henrico powerhouses headed to Class 6. A twelve-team region grows to fifteen as Deep Run, Glen Allen, Highland Springs and Meadowbrook depart, Matoaca returns to Class 5 after two seasons in Class 4 (and petitioning the VHSL to move up) and James River comes down from Class 6. This region will also no longer be exclusive to Richmond area teams, as Albemarle enters from the Charlottesville area, while Franklin County of Rocky Mount, Louisa, Patrick Henry-Roanoke and William Fleming all enter.

Logistically, this region just became a nightmare. But, to the VHSL's defense, it would be even more of a burden for the western schools to join any other region in Class 5, having either to go to Tidewater or Northern Virginia. It's also now the largest region in Class 5 with 15 teams (Class 5, Region A is next with 14, Region D only has 9).

Franklin County was a longtime member of Class 6, sharing both a region, and a conference back in their four-year tenure, with the likes of Cosby, Thomas Dale and James River. They're used to coming east for playoff action. So is Patrick Henry-Roanoke, who briefly played in the old Conference 16, which included Albemarle, Atlee, and our Patrick Henry (Ashland). Louisa, of course, plays some area schools in sports already and, geographically, is just a little further out than, say, Amelia, Powhatan, or Caroline. The Lions will automatically become a force in football in the region.

The unknown is William Fleming, the other Roanoke City high school (with PH-Roanoke). The Colonels have not made the football postseason since 2014, and are currently 1-4 this season. Boys basketball last won a state title in 2007.

CLASS 4, REGION B: (17 Teams)

Atlee, Caroline, Chancellor, Courtland, Dinwiddie, Eastern View, George Wythe, Hanover, Henrico, Huguenot, King George, Mechanicsville, Monacan, Patrick Henry (Ashland), Powhatan, Spotsylvania, Varina

ANALYSIS:
Interestingly enough, there is little change to the area's biggest region. Matoaca requested, and received, a move back up to Class 5, Region C. Caroline, who requested and received a move down from Region 4B to Class 3, Region B asked for that again, but this time were denied. The Cavaliers replace the Warriors, while the other sixteen teams remain the same including all four Hanover County schools.

CLASS 3, REGION A: (13 Teams)

Booker T. Washington, Colonial Heights, Grafton, Heritage (Newport News), Hopewell, I.C. Norcom, Lafayette, Lakeland, Lake Taylor, New Kent, Petersburg, Tabb, York

ANALYSIS: This region goes down from the current fourteen-team configuration. Leaving are Phoebus (Class 4), Southampton (Class 2) and Park View-South Hill, closed along with Bluestone to create the new Mecklenburg County High School. Eleven holdovers are joined by Grafton, a Bay Rivers District rival of New Kent, and Heritage, both moving down from Class 4.

CLASS 3, REGION B: (14 Teams)

Armstrong, Brentsville District, Culpeper, Fauquier, Goochland, Kettle Run, James Monroe, Maggie Walker GS, Manassas Park, Meridian, Skyline, Thomas Jefferson, Warren County, William Monroe

ANALYSIS: This region moves up from twelve to fourteen schools, led by Thomas Jefferson's move up from Class 2, Region A. Fauquier and Kettle Run each move down from Class 4. Armstrong and Goochland stay put. If Manassas Park resumes football in 2023, 13 teams will compete in that sport, all but Maggie Walker.

CLASS 2, REGION A: (14 Teams)

Amelia, Arcadia, Bruton, Central-Lunenburg, Greensville County, John Marshall, King William, Nandua, Nottoway, Poquoson, Prince Edward, Randolph-Henry, Southampton, Windsor

ANALYSIS: Bluestone is gone, closed to consolidate in Mecklenburg County, while Brunswick moves down to Class 1, and the Vikings of Thomas Jefferson are replaced by Southampton, TJ from Class 2 to 3, and Southampton in the opposite direction. Central-Lunenburg enters via moving up from Class 1, Region B.

CLASS 1, REGION A: (13 Teams)

Charles City, Chincoteague, Colonial Beach, Essex, King & Queen Central, Lancaster, Mathews, Middlesex, Northampton, Northumberland, Rappahannock, Westmoreland, West Point

ANALYSIS
: The only change is a name, as Westmoreland replaces Washington & Lee as the county's high school name. That took effect this season.

CLASS 1, REGION B: (12 Teams)

Altavista, Appomattox Regional GS, Brunswick, Buffalo Gap, Carver College & Career Academy, Cumberland, Franklin, Galileo, Rappahannock County, Surry, Sussex, William Campbell

ANALYSIS: Minor changes here, with one major exception. Class 1 football power Riverheads is heading to Class 2, Region B. Central-Lunenburg leaves, switching places with Brunswick, who comes down to Class 1.




Posted by robwitham at 2:12 PM
 
I find that "undue hardship" reasoning strange. Cant they make regular season exceptions like, say, allow a school to play in a lower level district through the season and not take a hit on points, and then that school play at their assigned class during the playoffs? Maybe an agreement where they must play all of their non-district games vs. the same class or higher during the regular season?
 
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