BATTLEFIELD DIST. RANKINS WEEK 4

[skynard1]

Well the season is moving right along. we are almost half way for most the teams and things are starting to settle in. the big three all had impressive wins but the bottom three with the exception of Caroline looks like they are fading. here we go with my rankings for what they are worth!
# 1 COURTLAND 3 and 1 : the cougars keep on trucking with a 43 to 0 shut out with Faquier! it was a complete victory for courtland with now the third head of their three headed monster Blair Lawson filling in the void of last years third head Anton Jenkins! looks like last years three backs will rush for a thousand yards each like last year. the cougars defense seems to be better than last year and with Allen playing receiver and not QB are better at passing something in the past JC didn't like to do! courtland is a great team but something has got to give as the big three face off against each other in a few weeks. crazy or not at the end of the season there may be a three way tie if each of the big three knock each other off as they play. stand by its going to get interesting!
# 2 JAMES MONROE 3 and 1: the jackets had a very impressive win against a good Petersburg team that gave them fits last year. watch it on TV today and Petersburg drove right down the field and scored on the first drive and scored. oh no I thought like last year as JM could not stop Petersburg but still won the game. not so as the Jackets adjusted on defense and shut down a very good athletic team. so now like Courtland the jackets have a great offense and now their defense seems to be jelling and look much better than last years team. like always the jackets have speed with a bevy of backs and the sophomore Qb Felton getting better every game. boy is this going to get interesting!
# 3 CHANCELLOR 3 and 1: a couple years ago Bob Oliver took action on some of his older linemen and replaced them with freshmen and sophmores and took the season on the chin. some players even transferred out and Bob took a lot of heat for doing so! well it looks like now old jolly Ollie is going to get the last laugh! the chargers are starting to roll and it looks like now the skies are the limit. they whipped a much larger school last night with a good football program! they probably have the best QB in the district and only needed a running game and a better defense and they would be a contender. well it looks like now it is happening right in front of our eyes. Brown has it all a good runner and awesome passer and can read defenses with the best of them and only a junior. Wisdom has become a good runner and who else would you want to build a defense than the old defensive guru Bob Oliver? look out JM and Courtland the Chargers are lurking!
# 4 KING GEORGE 1 and 3: looks like my old buddy Jeff Smith is starting to fade! now don't get me wrong Louisa has a good offense but I am worried that the foxes defense just can't get it done! when Brek Hall got hired as the D coordinator it would improve but it hasn't done so! the lions ran over and through the foxes with almost 500 yards of offense! if the knights had beat orange last night you may have seen a change in the # 4 position! looks like the foxes are starting to crumble but with Smith at the helm he is a well qualified coach and get the bull by the horns!
# 5 SPOTSYLVANIA 1 and 3: the knights let me down last night as I really thought they had a shot to beat Orange but the Hornets was 30 points better! the knights have very little speed and a lack of talent. they had very little offense against Orange a team they should have been able to move the ball. a young small freshman QB is taking his lumps but he will develop as a lot of other young players on the team. looking foreward to doing the game on CVTV in a couple weeks on homecoming against W@ L. we will also be celebrating SHS 75 years in existence that night also. come on boys from post oak you are better than a 33 to 3 loss to a average Orange team! GOOD LUCK and I will see you in a couple weeks.
#6 CAROLINE 0 and 4 : You know what? I am starting to keep my eyes on this Caroline team! coach Yeats has these guys moving the ball and score points. lost in OT last night but had great offensive numbers and if they had a defense I would rank them ahead of Spotsy but they can't stop anyone! seem to be developing a good QB in David Ware and running back ANTONIO ROBINSON who had 186 yards rushing last night. if coach Yeats gets his defense going this may be a up and coming team. good for you Caroline. the students and team has suffered a lot down there so I wish you only the best!
ok folks read them and weep. the top three getting stronger and the bottom other than Caroline fading . plenty time to make adjustments by the teams to get better so good luck to all!

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

You say the Courtland defense is better than last year's, but what about allowing over 350 yards to Louisa? Still waiting on your comments about that. Is our offense that good? And was I overreacting about our defense?

 

[skynard1]

You say the Courtland defense is better than last year's, but what about allowing over 350 yards to Louisa? Still waiting on your comments about that. Is our offense that good? And was I overreacting about our defense?

let me tell you this. courtland gave up almost that much to Louisa last year also. I have been saying for two years now that Louisa's offense is down right good. their o line from last year is all back and is very big and good! the puppy backs whalen and malik bell are just sophmores and rayquan jones also a sophomore are going to be headaches for d coordinators in the Jefferson! there are a lot of people saying that the lions may sweep the district this year and lose one at the most. when I interviewed JC HALL on TV at the end of the Louisa courtland game he said he was very impressed with Louisa's offensive line and their young backs so I would not take that Louisa offense too lightly. they have a good offense its been turnovers and their defense that has held them back like the sherando game! yes courtland's defense is better than last years. don't let that Louisa game fool you as the cougars was up against a very good offense that will do that against other teams this year just watch!

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

When I watched Courtland/Massaponax I did think Courtland's defense was much improved, but then the Louisa game had me thinking they were the same 'ol defense. That's until we racked up 500 yards last night. Job Whalen is a beast. Courtland won't see an offense that good again until JM, and I wish I could go to that game. If they shut down JM or hold them to less than 300 yards of offense, then they're for real, and will have a real shot to make noise in the 4A East playoffs. I'm starting to think Louisa's defense will be okay by the playoffs, but I sure don't want a rematch with Courtland.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

I also think King George is better than their record, losing to three good teams. I think they'll beat Norcom next week and end up #4 in the district, but give the top 3 teams good games. Their defensive issues are stopping teams on 3rd and 4th down, which they can improve on. They definitely won't lose to Spotsy or Caroline.

 

[skynard1]

saw them play Essex and they played pretty well but for some reason the foxes never play good defense. even the years of the parker twins and Eddie Haynes last season at KG when they went all the way to the state semi finals their defense had issues! matter of fact that year they may have won it all but the defense could not stop teams and their offense had to out score their opponent to win. they never seem to be a physical defense and why I don't know. they surely have the athletes to play good defense. foxes have a excellent coach and seem to be just a little short of Chancellor who is ready to get to the level of JM and Courtland very soon!

 

[footballfan1992]

When I watched Courtland/Massaponax I did think Courtland's defense was much improved, but then the Louisa game had me thinking they were the same 'ol defense. That's until we racked up 500 yards last night. Job Whalen is a beast. Courtland won't see an offense that good again until JM, and I wish I could go to that game. If they shut down JM or hold them to less than 300 yards of offense, then they're for real, and will have a real shot to make noise in the 4A East playoffs. I'm starting to think Louisa's defense will be okay by the playoffs, but I sure don't want a rematch with Courtland.

You won't be happy until everyone to tells you your Louisa offense is awesome. What it is - it's different - with big bodies up front. As was shown by Courtland, all one has to do is contain it. If a team contains it and gets up on Louisa, that offense can't strike fast. Who cares how many yards they got...they lost the game and only had 10 points thru 3 quarters. That awesome offense was not going to score 30 plus in one quarter. You do realize we are now working on week two beyond the Courtland/Louisa game.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

This is my last post on the subject unless we rematch. I wanted to PM skynard about the subject instead of posting, but he's not a subscriber. We had 17 points through 3 quarters. Since you have video, you should know that. We probably would've had 28 through 3 quarters if not for the lost fumble and goal-line personal foul. Yes Courtland stopped us for a few drives, but in a closer game with any defense on our part, it wouldn't have mattered. With the way our defense had been playing, I'd rather play ball control offense as long as we score. We killed ourselves in that first half. Just hope we don't rematch, because your lack of depth at the end of games and especially at the end of the season will hurt against a team like Louisa, since our defense will be better. I was complimenting your team in my previous post, and I honestly don't care what most people say about Louisa, just as I'm sure most people don't care what I say. I just think this place needs more banter, and I actually care about David's opinions, so get over it.

 

[bclift]

King George is better then their record right now (probably 2&2). Yes they have played 3 good teams but mistakes killed them against Essex and Liberty including 100 plus yards in penalties. Simply could not stop the run against Louisa. Louisa's 80 offensive plays to KG's 30, huge time of possession advantage. KG can score if they have the ball. The coaches will adjust and put some Ws on the board over the next 2 or 3 games. Hopefully preparing to give Chancellor, Courtland and JM good games and surprise 1 or 2 of the big three.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

We ran 73 plays according to the FLS, but yeah, huge TOP advantage. KG couldn't stop the pass either besides Cherry's ill-advised pass that led to the pick 6. Louisa had some 3rd/4th down conversions on pass plays. KG had no one to cover Marquis Lee. They also had trouble stopping Liberty's passing on 3rd/4th downs. I agree that KG will adjust and get better. I like Jordan Aley a lot, and think they need to find more ways to get him in the open field, because he has break-away speed.

 

[bclift]

King George is better then their record right now (probably 2&2). Yes they have played 3 good teams but mistakes killed them against Essex and Liberty including 100 plus yards in penalties. Simply could not stop the run against Louisa. Louisa's 80 offensive plays to KG's 30, huge time of possession advantage. KG can score if they have the ball. The coaches will adjust and put some Ws on the board over the next 2 or 3 games. Hopefully preparing to give Chancellor, Courtland and JM good games and surprise 1 or 2 of the big three.

Remember King George sat 3 or 4 starters against Liberty for various reasons and gave up some early scores to Liberty. KG blunders gave liberty the ball deep in KG territory multiple times in the first half. Liberty's only score in the second half was on a defensive play that went through a receivers hands into the free safeties hands on a screen pass. Not taken anything away from Louisa's passing game, KG had blown coverage's which helped out. KG will get everyone on the same page then will see how good or not good they are. Louisa has a very good team.

 

[bclift]

KG has to stop giving up the big play on 3 and 4 down.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

I didn't know about KG sitting some starters against Liberty. Hmmmm... that adds a new perspective. I also read an article about the KG/Essex game which was a typical sloppy, penalty-filled early game, so I didn't take too much from that final score.

 

[shauntclair]

This is my last post on the subject unless we rematch. I wanted to PM skynard about the subject instead of posting, but he's not a subscriber. We had 17 points through 3 quarters. Since you have video, you should know that. We probably would've had 28 through 3 quarters if not for the lost fumble and goal-line personal foul. Yes Courtland stopped us for a few drives, but in a closer game with any defense on our part, it wouldn't have mattered. With the way our defense had been playing, I'd rather play ball control offense as long as we score. We killed ourselves in that first half. Just hope we don't rematch, because your lack of depth at the end of games and especially at the end of the season will hurt against a team like Louisa, since our defense will be better. I was complimenting your team in my previous post, and I honestly don't care what most people say about Louisa, just as I'm sure most people don't care what I say. I just think this place needs more banter, and I actually care about David's opinions, so get over it.

Well, coulda' shoulda' woulda' is ok but it's football. If you make mistakes, the good teams make you pay for them. That's all that happened in Louisa/Courtland. A lot of mistakes. Plus Courtland does have some very talented players. They're not easy to tackle for any defense. Louisa is a solid team. I've said that and judging them and crying gloom and doom from their first two opponents was very wrong. The first two teams were just better. Didn't make Louisa bad. I also said the Louisa defense was not as bad as was being portrayed. The offense has spark with Whalen and that big line but don't over sell them just as you over sold the ugly defense. Perspective. GL in 2015. I think you guys have a good shot at the JD title. Nobody else has shone brightly yet and you're already through your two toughest games of the year. I few breaks and less faux pas's could go a long way to a nice season.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

No, I was dead serious about Louisa's defense. It was that bad, laughably bad, allowing running lanes I could run through, with poor pursuing. I'm sure skynard and Mike Neville agreed during the broadcast. It was the same against KG in the first half. Sherando wouldn't score close to 35, and Courtland wouldn't score 50 on last year's defense. But little by little, I can see improvement. When things click mentally, they swarm to the ball. I didn't think we'd have issues with the offensive line's health that early, but I have nothing to complain about offensively after the starting center and guard came back. I don't think I'm overselling them at all; the offense is for real, and it's not just because of Whalen.

 

[shauntclair]

No, I was dead serious about Louisa's defense. It was that bad, laughably bad, allowing running lanes I could run through, with poor pursuing. I'm sure skynard and Mike Neville agreed during the broadcast. It was the same against KG in the first half. Sherando wouldn't score close to 35, and Courtland wouldn't score 50 on last year's defense. But little by little, I can see improvement. When things click mentally, they swarm to the ball. I didn't think we'd have issues with the offensive line's health that early, but I have nothing to complain about offensively after the starting center and guard came back. I don't think I'm overselling them at all; the offense is for real, and it's not just because of Whalen.

No, Courtland scored 35 on last year's defense but Louisa also did not make as many mistakes to give the Cougars opportunities. Like I said, you crack the door and the good teams take advantage. That's exactly what happened this year.

Lots of sloppy play opened the season for many teams this year. Hell, my Cougars fumbled 11 times in their first two games. They were fortunate to start 1 - 1 and still should have beaten Ponax. But again, one should not dwell on coulda, shoulda, woulda. It happened. Helps give a focus to this weeks practice. That's all. Move on and improve.

Yes, considering who they played, I still think you grossly over sold the ineptitude of the Lion defense and are overselling the Louisa offense. IMO. Remember, it's most often not about how good you are but how good the other guy is. You have a bunch of teams coming up that are not as good or equal to Louisa. You don't have another Sherando or Courtland on the schedule and I believe you'll do quite well. Now it's up to the Lions to actually get it done. Just please try to maintain some perspective. GL in 2015.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

Before the season started, I expected our defense to be at least half as good as Ponax's, meaning good enough to make Courtland work for their points, not score on 5 or fewer plays almost every drive. I don't think that's asking too much, even of a young defense. And Courtland scored 28 on the defense last year. One score came on a fumble return where our runner was down but the ref didn't blow the whistle.

You always want "perspective", well I want you to watch the games before you ask for perspective or talk as if you have it.

 

[footballfan1992]

This is my last post on the subject unless we rematch. I wanted to PM skynard about the subject instead of posting, but he's not a subscriber. We had 17 points through 3 quarters. Since you have video, you should know that. We probably would've had 28 through 3 quarters if not for the lost fumble and goal-line personal foul. Yes Courtland stopped us for a few drives, but in a closer game with any defense on our part, it wouldn't have mattered. With the way our defense had been playing, I'd rather play ball control offense as long as we score. We killed ourselves in that first half. Just hope we don't rematch, because your lack of depth at the end of games and especially at the end of the season will hurt against a team like Louisa, since our defense will be better. I was complimenting your team in my previous post, and I honestly don't care what most people say about Louisa, just as I'm sure most people don't care what I say. I just think this place needs more banter, and I actually care about David's opinions, so get over it.

LOL...a lot of "what if's."

 

[footballfan1992]

Before the season started, I expected our defense to be at least half as good as Ponax's, meaning good enough to make Courtland work for their points, not score on 5 or fewer plays almost every drive. I don't think that's asking too much, even of a young defense. And Courtland scored 28 on the defense last year. One score came on a fumble return where our runner was down but the ref didn't blow the whistle.

You always want "perspective", well I want you to watch the games before you ask for perspective or talk as if you have it.

There it is...another excuse. If the ref would have done this or that, if we would not have fumbled, if we had a better defense, if we didn't have a personal foul...laughable.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

About as laughable as Ponax escaping on that field goal to win it. Hey that runner was really down, though. Watch it on your son's Hudl. I can tell you're the type to make the same kinds of "excuses" if you were in my position by the way you posted after the Ponax game.

 

[footballfan1992]

About as laughable as Ponax escaping on that field goal to win it. Hey that runner was really down, though. Watch it on your son's Hudl.

I just watched it...when he is going down he's knees are coming down on top of a Courtland player and then hit by another player. His knees are not on the ground when ball comes out.

 

[footballfan1992]

About as laughable as Ponax escaping on that field goal to win it. Hey that runner was really down, though. Watch it on your son's Hudl. I can tell you're the type to make the same kinds of "excuses" if you were in my position by the way you posted after the Ponax game.

You must be making reference to this comment I made after the game...my last comment: "Courtland should not have allowed the officials to determine the end of the game." Sounds like I placed the responsibility on Courtland...not the refs or some other "if." I don't make excuses

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

LOL wow! I posted the video here last year, everyone said he was down. I showed it to 3 coaches, they all said he was down. Coach Hall even told C'ville Coach Sherry, his buddy, that he was down. The first player that grabs Jones pulls him down and ends up sliding past him a little, and then the two other players hit him. It's pretty clear to me and those other folks that his elbows, knees, his whole body were touching the ground by the time the ball popped out. WOW. You're right, everyone else is wrong. I hope you know the elbows are just as important as the knees. But the officials also missed a false start, so that play shouldn't have even happened. Now I'm done talking about that, didn't expect this to blow up again.

You must be making reference to this comment I made after the game...my last comment: "Courtland should not have allowed the officials to determine the end of the game." Sounds like I placed the responsibility on Courtland...not the refs or some other "if." I don't make excuses

You also said, "Why didn't the refs stop the clock for the other three times players lost their helmets during the game?" and "It helps to get the FG team out "quickly" when the ref gives them an extra 20 seconds or more" Sounds like excuses to me.

 

[shauntclair]

Before the season started, I expected our defense to be at least half as good as Ponax's, meaning good enough to make Courtland work for their points, not score on 5 or fewer plays almost every drive. I don't think that's asking too much, even of a young defense. And Courtland scored 28 on the defense last year. One score came on a fumble return where our runner was down but the ref didn't blow the whistle.

You always want "perspective", well I want you to watch the games before you ask for perspective or talk as if you have it.

Oh, so a fumble return for a TD doesn't count as points scored? This is what I mean by perspective. Of course, if it was Louisa, it would count. And, finally, for a man that doesn't live in the State or see the games, I'm still ahead of you in the pickem'.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

We were obviously talking about points scored on Louisa's DEFENSE, were we not? I didn't know Louisa's defense was magically on the field on that play, maybe we should've gotten flagged for 22 players on the field instead! Reading comprehension at its finest.

You're luckily ahead in the Pick'em for now. And for the first time ever.

 

[footballfan1992]

LOL wow! I posted the video here last year, everyone said he was down. I showed it to 3 coaches, they all said he was down. Coach Hall even told C'ville Coach Sherry, his buddy, that he was down. The first player that grabs Jones pulls him down and ends up sliding past him a little, and then the two other players hit him. It's pretty clear to me and those other folks that his elbows, knees, his whole body were touching the ground by the time the ball popped out. WOW. You're right, everyone else is wrong. I hope you know the elbows are just as important as the knees. But the officials also missed a false start, so that play shouldn't have even happened.
You also said, "Why didn't the refs stop the clock for the other three times players lost their helmets during the game?" and "It helps to get the FG team out "quickly" when the ref gives them an extra 20 seconds or more" Sounds like excuses to me.

I am watching it right now...ball is out before elbows even touch ground - not even close. First Courtland player is under him - he gets hit - and loses control of the ball before he ever hits the ground. He lands on the ball (which he no longer had control of) and the ball squirts out from under his shoulder pad. Pretty clear. Post the video again.

Now you give another excuse...false start...should not have happened. Guess what...it happened, he fumbled and Louisa lost the game. The last two years Louisa has given up 85 points to Courtland. One thing you are right about - they need a defense. I am sure those 85 points were not all of Louisa's fault because penalty's should have been called, coach's should have called different plays, wrong players were in there and even the fans should not have shown up.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

No point in posting the video again, this dead horse is beaten enough. It's on Vic Greene's 2014-2015 Hudl highlights page, if anyone wants to go look. I know one "fan" who won't show up to the games soon, though. You, the typical parent who stops going to games once the son graduates.

 

[shauntclair]

We were obviously talking about points scored on Louisa's DEFENSE, were we not? I didn't know Louisa's defense was magically on the field on that play, maybe we should've gotten flagged for 22 players on the field instead! Reading comprehension at its finest.

You're luckily ahead in the Pick'em for now.

Wasting my time talking to the deaf. Won't happen again. GL in 2015.

 

[anon_vu6vqwsr4nf3b]

Courtland wouldn't score 50 on last year's defense.

No, Courtland scored 35 on last year's defense

Courtland scored 28 on the defense last year. One score came on a fumble return

Are you drunk again, senile, or just plain crazy?

Wasting my time talking to the deaf. Won't happen again. GL in 2015.

THANK YOU, maybe now you'll stop friggin' quoting me all the time so I can ignore you in peace.