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I'm sitting here drinking coffee and reading the threads about the 2A championship game and it's clear to me everyone thought this was a great game and it was. Sooo instead of giving Appo all these great accolades and such i want to give Lee great accolades. I truely cannot think of a team that was any better then Lee. Gosh those boys were tough and well disciplined. The Lee players deserve every ounce of respect that i can humanely give to them. I have said in other threads how good they ARE. Their attitude is for each other and the team, it's not about themselves as an individual. Lee come to the game with the attitude of one team and i will do my best to help my brother. And boy do they bring it and prove it on the field, great bunch of young men i cannot say enough about how proud i am of them. May god continue to bless these young men and they continue to have success in the future on and off the field.
 
I'll echo that! Those boys were ready to play and play hard they for sure did!! In the end I think the crowd coming to life in a unified PO1 fashion helped inspired our boys to continue to battle and fight
LEE was the real deal for sure. My gracious they were big up front!!!!
 
Agree with all that guys ! Props to RELee , they had a great game plan and they did not back down from anyone last nite I just think they gave out of gas and the PO1 took over in the end . I agree if there coaches stay together they will be a force for while to come . Understand that them and riverheads is only about 12 miles apart !think riverheads should move to 2a if student enrollment allows it , they are just not getting much competition in 1a just my opinion on that !!
 
That's a really nice thing to say about Lee you guys - I'm sure some of them read this message board too.

They represented the school well, and exceeded everyone's expectations this season.

Everyone here knows that's my team - graduated from Lee "moons ago" - but still follow them closely.

Unfortunately, I was traveling yesterday and wasn't able to catch the game - but saw the highlights and all - looked like a classic!

It sounded like real good sportsmanship on both sides.....the way it should be!

And I was pleased that there really was no trash talking back and forth between anyone on here concerning the game - was nice for a change!

Now on to basketball season..............
 
Let me congratulate the RE Lee team as well. They represented well in Salem for being a 1st time championship game contender. They went out with a fight. It was like two Heavy weights in the ring going blow for blow until the end. Im a big boxing fan so that is where that came from. I dont know how many seniors RE LEE gonna lose next year, but if they dont lose many, I got them back again next year.

@BCKnights @oldfool and @HolyFrog I spoke about this at length (in separate conversations). I told them that Lee is a great team that can match us. I told them we win by a TD, nothing more. What a great showing by both teams.

Im going to go out on record and eat humble pie...I did not think this team was going to win states when season started. I knew we would go deep and be contenders, but I did not think we had the OL or the D to do it again this year. Im blessed I witnessed it for the 3rd time. SALUTE for making me a believer! Im PO1 for LIFE!!!!! Proud to be a graduate of Appomattox as well.
 
Let me congratulate the RE Lee team as well. They represented well in Salem for being a 1st time championship game contender. They went out with a fight. It was like two Heavy weights in the ring going blow for blow until the end. Im a big boxing fan so that is where that came from. I dont know how many seniors RE LEE gonna lose next year, but if they dont lose many, I got them back again next year.

@BCKnights @oldfool and @HolyFrog I spoke about this at length (in separate conversations). I told them that Lee is a great team that can match us. I told them we win by a TD, nothing more. What a great showing by both teams.

Im going to go out on record and eat humble pie...I did not think this team was going to win states when season started. I knew we would go deep and be contenders, but I did not think we had the OL or the D to do it again this year. Im blessed I witnessed it for the 3rd time. SALUTE for making me a believer! Im PO1 for LIFE!!!!! Proud to be a graduate of Appomattox as well.
If we didnt have the dropped passes or punt then that fluke punt returned for TD I can see us up 3 touchdowns, thin is we came out in 2nd half ready to take care of business. We done had enough bull junk. We persevered and overcome. To get the 3 Peat !!!
 
We were dropping some passes that was "uncharacteristic" for that receiver but,..... that team was darn good. I do think you take that darn funky punt play out and we were controlling their run better in the second half than the first.
We might have won it by 11 but that is all for not.

LEE was awesome and they showed why they were there.
 
If we didnt have the dropped passes or punt then that fluke punt returned for TD I can see us up 3 touchdowns, thin is we came out in 2nd half ready to take care of business. We done had enough bull junk. We persevered and overcome. To get the 3 Peat !!!

It's easy HolyFrog to look at individuals plays. But, that goes for both schools. Lee left some points on the board in the first half, but Appo left some points on the board in the second. I said before the game and that is.....the moment will NOT be to big for Lee, but the moment will be "just big enough" to give a TD difference between the two. In my opinion, that was the case. The moment not being to big was evident by Lee scoring first and moving the ball by gashing Appo running in the first half, and Lee has the talent to be in the game and make it close down the stretch which is what they did, but......why I felt the moment was just slightly to big for Lee? From the very first time Lee kicked off. It suggests playing not to lose and playing not to lose is an often a sign that the moment is a slightly to big. You have to play to win, and Lee did just that on O and D, but on special teams, those kicks accounted for lots of "free yards" for Appo and it gives the momentum from a recent score right back to Appo, or at least it hurts some of your psychological momentum that you had just gained from a score, but then give to Appo at midfield or near the Lee 40. Also, the time to shine and take the game over for Lee, or get the possible winning score and winning a title was the last series when two guys on two different plays were wide open with the one post route and one fly route in which the WR scores if the ball is placed, and the ball was overthrown twice. This can be attributed to nerves which any High School Player would have, but guarantee ya, Scruggs completes that pass or "passes" in the last series if its him in that position. This is only my opinion on the moment being slightly, not by much, but slightly just to big and it showed with key-critical near misses in the last series and near misses are often a sign of the moment being slightly to big, or at least one can agree that nerves are in play here. However, the overall game was not to big for Lee as the QB is special and has a nice game.

Finally, there is no question that the adjustments by Smith at the half were the difference. They were monumental and Appo absolutely took that game over after halftime and Lee was holding on. Appo was blowing holes open left and right in the second half and it was noticeable. This was one heck of a game. The best team did win in my opinion. Appo absolutely put their foot down the second half and their physicality, size, strength, and leadership from it's senior QB showed. I understand Lee loses a bit, but if Lee is back in the title game next year (if they get there), then look out. It just makes it tons easier psychologically for kids that have been there and done that, and this is what I was getting at with the moment maybe being slightly to big. It's not to say Lee is a choker because they aren't. Lee is solid, but the comfort level of Appo having been there and done that clearly showed in the final moments, and having recently played 2 times in a big title game has to offer at least some, some kind of psychological advantage.

I wish VT would offer Scruggs. I can see that kid playing in the secondary and being a force, or getting some touches offensively or as a good possession WR. He's just to good of a football player in my opinion not to be playing major Div 1. He can obviously tackle as he made a vicious hit on the Lee QB in the second half. I love this kids game. I like the offensive line for Lee also. That's a bad bunch and Appo had some serious problems with the big OL for Lee, but credit Appo's OL the second half as they took over. Just a fantastic contest between two heavyweights with excellent coaches.
 
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It's easy HolyFrog to look at individuals plays. But, that goes for both schools. Lee left some points on the board in the first half, but Appo left some points on the board in the second. I said before the game and that is.....the moment will NOT be to big for Lee, but the moment will be "just big enough" to give a TD difference between the two. In my opinion, that was the case. The moment not being to big was evident by Lee scoring first and moving the ball by gashing Appo running in the first half, and Lee has the talent to be in the game and make it close down the stretch which is what they did, but......why I felt the moment was just slightly to big for Lee? From the very first time Lee kicked off. It suggests playing not to lose and playing not to lose is an often a sign that the moment is a slightly to big. You have to play to win, and Lee did just that on O and D, but on special teams, those kicks accounted for lots of "free yards" for Appo and it gives the momentum from a recent score right back to Appo, or at least it hurts some of your psychological momentum that you had just gained from a score, but then give to Appo at midfield or near the Lee 40. Also, the time to shine and take the game over for Lee, or get the possible winning score and winning a title was the last series when two guys on two different plays were wide open with the one post route and one fly route in which the WR scores if the ball is placed, and the ball was overthrown twice. This can be attributed to nerves which any High School Player would have, but guarantee ya, Scruggs completes that pass or "passes" in the last series if its him in that position. This is only my opinion on the moment being slightly, not by much, but slightly just to big and it showed with key-critical near misses in the last series and near misses are often a sign of the moment being slightly to big, or at least one can agree that nerves are in play here. However, the overall game was not to big for Lee as the QB is special and has a nice game.

Finally, there is no question that the adjustments by Smith at the half were the difference. They were monumental and Appo absolutely took that game over after halftime and Lee was holding on. Appo was blowing holes open left and right in the second half and it was noticeable. This was one heck of a game. The best team did win in my opinion. Appo absolutely put their foot down the second half and their physicality, size, strength, and leadership from it's senior QB showed. I understand Lee loses a bit, but if Lee is back in the title game next year (if they get there), then look out. It just makes it tons easier psychologically for kids that have been there and done that, and this is what I was getting at with the moment maybe being slightly to big. It's not to say Lee is a choker because they aren't. Lee is solid, but the comfort level of Appo having been there and done that clearly showed in the final moments, and having recently played 2 times in a big title game has to offer at least some, some kind of psychological advantage.

I wish VT would offer Scruggs. I can see that kid playing in the secondary and being a force, or getting some touches offensively or as a good possession WR. He's just to good of a football player in my opinion not to be playing major Div 1. He can obviously tackle as he made a vicious hit on the Lee QB in the second half. I love this kids game. I like the offensive line for Lee also. That's a bad bunch and Appo had some serious problems with the big OL for Lee, but credit Appo's OL the second half as they took over. Just a fantastic contest between two heavyweights with excellent coaches.
Luca be writing them BOOKS!!!! LOL
 
1st time I ever Appomattox in a spread too. Thought that would be unstoppable if they ran a spread last 3 years.
 
I did not get to see the second half until today, due to my problem on Sunday with the NFHS website. But when I did watch it today, I was surprised to see that there was no scoring at all for almost the entire third quarter. So Lee held that 17-10 lead for the equivalent of almost a full quarter. But once they each got it going, they scored like crazy. I think the fourth quarter took something like an hour to play. The people sitting out in the cold must have been miserable.
 
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I did not get to see the second half until today, due to my problem on Sunday with the NFHS website. But when I did watch it today, I was surprised to see that there was no scoring at all for almost the entire third quarter. So Lee held that 17-10 lead for the equivalent of almost a full quarter. But once they each got it going, they scored like crazy. I think the fourth quarter took something like an hour to play. The people sitting out in the cold must have been miserable.
Cant speak for others but I was kept warm by jumping up and down like an oldfool.
 
With the fireworks that went off in the 4th...I doubt the goal post were cold.
 
It's easy HolyFrog to look at individuals plays. But, that goes for both schools. Lee left some points on the board in the first half, but Appo left some points on the board in the second. I said before the game and that is.....the moment will NOT be to big for Lee, but the moment will be "just big enough" to give a TD difference between the two. In my opinion, that was the case. The moment not being to big was evident by Lee scoring first and moving the ball by gashing Appo running in the first half, and Lee has the talent to be in the game and make it close down the stretch which is what they did, but......why I felt the moment was just slightly to big for Lee? From the very first time Lee kicked off. It suggests playing not to lose and playing not to lose is an often a sign that the moment is a slightly to big. You have to play to win, and Lee did just that on O and D, but on special teams, those kicks accounted for lots of "free yards" for Appo and it gives the momentum from a recent score right back to Appo, or at least it hurts some of your psychological momentum that you had just gained from a score, but then give to Appo at midfield or near the Lee 40. Also, the time to shine and take the game over for Lee, or get the possible winning score and winning a title was the last series when two guys on two different plays were wide open with the one post route and one fly route in which the WR scores if the ball is placed, and the ball was overthrown twice. This can be attributed to nerves which any High School Player would have, but guarantee ya, Scruggs completes that pass or "passes" in the last series if its him in that position. This is only my opinion on the moment being slightly, not by much, but slightly just to big and it showed with key-critical near misses in the last series and near misses are often a sign of the moment being slightly to big, or at least one can agree that nerves are in play here. However, the overall game was not to big for Lee as the QB is special and has a nice game.

Finally, there is no question that the adjustments by Smith at the half were the difference. They were monumental and Appo absolutely took that game over after halftime and Lee was holding on. Appo was blowing holes open left and right in the second half and it was noticeable. This was one heck of a game. The best team did win in my opinion. Appo absolutely put their foot down the second half and their physicality, size, strength, and leadership from it's senior QB showed. I understand Lee loses a bit, but if Lee is back in the title game next year (if they get there), then look out. It just makes it tons easier psychologically for kids that have been there and done that, and this is what I was getting at with the moment maybe being slightly to big. It's not to say Lee is a choker because they aren't. Lee is solid, but the comfort level of Appo having been there and done that clearly showed in the final moments, and having recently played 2 times in a big title game has to offer at least some, some kind of psychological advantage.

I wish VT would offer Scruggs. I can see that kid playing in the secondary and being a force, or getting some touches offensively or as a good possession WR. He's just to good of a football player in my opinion not to be playing major Div 1. He can obviously tackle as he made a vicious hit on the Lee QB in the second half. I love this kids game. I like the offensive line for Lee also. That's a bad bunch and Appo had some serious problems with the big OL for Lee, but credit Appo's OL the second half as they took over. Just a fantastic contest between two heavyweights with excellent coaches.
First off, gicing the Raiders short field was bad coaching, kick the ball and play ball. Yes he over threw #20 but 20 also fell, who is to say they wpuld have scored. If QB hit #81 Graves couldnt have knocked it down but he was on him like glue and 81 would have been brought down, he would not have out ran Graves. Lees QB got kept in check, he never had a break out run. Dont k ow what u was watching, just some 8 yrd, 6yrd runs up guy etc.

Yes, Appo came out on fire second half, if they would have played lime first half, Lee would have won. There wasnt but so many players on the field for Appo that has been in the Big Show, but yes had been thwre on the sidelines in previous years. But all in all, great game. Loved seeing it live.
 
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We were dropping some passes that was "uncharacteristic" for that receiver but,..... that team was darn good. I do think you take that darn funky punt play out and we were controlling their run better in the second half than the first.
We might have won it by 11 but that is all for not.

LEE was awesome and they showed why they were there.
The same goes for our #2 Dews with his drop passes. One of them was a TD for sure. Others the other wad a big first down. Glad he redeemed himself in the 4th.
 
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The same goes for our #2 Dews with his drop passes. One of them was a TD for sure. Others the other wad a big first down. Glad he redeemed himself in the 4th.

That's who I was referring to. Devin usually very sure handed. Yea, one was TD (or on goal line at worst) and the other was a big first down on a long 3 down play.

Either way I'm sure Lee can play the "what if game" to.

Glad that punt deal didn't beat us.

Our boys battled in the second half and out crowd came to live when needed.
 
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Here we go with this..You sound like the Salem fans who swear Blacksburg could beat the Pittsburgh Steelers.

It's the truth. Take away the gimmick plays and Appo handled Lee. They had a much tougher time v. Union. I never said anything outrageous, the two best teams played in the semis.
 
It's the truth. Take away the gimmick plays and Appo handled Lee. They had a much tougher time v. Union. I never said anything outrageous, the two best teams played in the semis.

There were no gimmick plays, there was a bad punt that they scored on, wasn't done on purpose. The also scored on a short field on a muffed punt.

Robert E Lee had lead for a good amount of time, when exactly did the semifinal team have the lead?

Your team lost, no reason to take a thread congratulating a team and try to make it about your team
 
There were no gimmick plays, there was a bad punt that they scored on, wasn't done on purpose. The also scored on a short field on a muffed punt.

Robert E Lee had lead for a good amount of time, when exactly did the semifinal team have the lead?

Your team lost, no reason to take a thread congratulating a team and try to make it about your team

I.e. not normal plays, gimmick stuff. I posted because some said RE Lee was soo much better than Union and all that jazz, and I posted the truth: the closest game Appo had was v. Union, the two best teams in 2A. No disrespect to RE Lee, they had a great season for the third best team in 2A.

How many yards did Appo gain v. Lee? V. Union? How many TD drives did Appo have v. Lee? V. Union?
 
He’s hilarious! The two best teams played in the state championship. If you make it that far then 9.9999999 times out of 10 it’s no fluke.


Never said all their TDs were flukes. Only the punt mishandle TD. The two best teams played in the semis.
 
Who’s to say that 5 hour trip to Union didn’t affect Appomattox which made the score closer since we’re speculating :rolleyes:


Lolol whatever you say. Appo had to travel to the final too, correct?

Appo scored on a PR TD, scored on a drive starting at the Union ten, and scored on a drive starting at the Union 45. No sustained TD drives, and had to hang on by the skin of their teeth to win. Wasn't the case v. Lee.
Union had three TD drives of 50+ yards, one of 70+ yards.

The two best 2A teams played in the semis. It's just a fact
 
Lolol whatever you say. Appo had to travel to the final too, correct?

Appo scored on a PR TD, scored on a drive starting at the Union ten, and scored on a drive starting at the Union 45. No sustained TD drives, and had to hang on by the skin of their teeth to win. Wasn't the case v. Lee.
Union had three TD drives of 50+ yards, one of 70+ yards.

The two best 2A teams played in the semis. It's just a fact

It's not a FACT. Union could certainly be the 2nd best team, but there is NO FACT behind that. You see a fact is something that is proven. You can use all these thing to try any prove your point, such as the score, the amount of drives, etc and someone else can bring up the same things to go directly against your argument.

And obviously this means a lot to you that your team is considered the 2nd best team, but when you use words that aren't remotely true (Gimmick and Fact) then it hurts your argument.

Gimmick is defined basically as a trick or clever device used to deceive. The play in question was neither, just a strange play that Lee benefited from. And a fact is something that is proven. If EVERYONE on this board thought that Union was 2nd best team, it's still not a fact.

So in conclusion, Robert E Lee had the lead for a big portion of the game and Union never did. Union gave up less points to Appomattox than Robert E Lee did. Robert E Lee scored more point against Appomattox than Union did.

Point differential between games cannot be used to measure common opponents. You see football comes down to matchups. I can go back to any football season in history and find where a bad team could beat a good team by point differential.

And last point, you said Appomattox had to travel for the final too, yes they did. The point someone waa making is who's to say that their travel to Union didn't effect their play? Union didn't have to travel, but both Appomattox and Robert E Lee had to travel.
 
Agreed !! 3 peat champions Appomattox raiders 44-1 over last three seasons !! Have a great and happy new year will be fun to see what 2018 brings as a lot of teams will need to reload !!! Good off season to all and enjoy !!
 
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