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Essex Trojan1

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If any WC posters or someone in that area going to this scrimmage, can you post what took place? Thanks.
 
Saw the 1st 20min or so from a friend streaming. It was the 10 play format for the 20min I saw. Essex score 2 TDs in their 10 plays. One on the 1st play and the other was about 3 or 4 plays later. On W.C. 10 plays, they scored once. Don’t know much after that because the stream stopped.
 
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Was told that Essex finished with 7 TDs and William Campbell finished with 3.

Well done to Essex. However, this is not a surprising result at all. In fact, sounds like WC did pretty well from what I hear.

No disrespect to WC (I hope they do great), but they will struggle mightily v Tier One teams like Essex and Riverheads again.

I know many people were high on William Campbell last year. Some felt disrespected last season when some of us said they had little chance v Riverheads. Well, they also have little chance this year as well but will probably play Riverheads again in the Region B final.

Having said all that, WC may very well be the #6 top team in Class 1 as predicted in the Va Preps preseason poll.
 
With the ones on the field, the outcome was Essex 4 TDs, William Campbell 3 TDs. William Campbell gave up 2 Touchdowns with the first 5 plays and only 2 for the remainder of the scrimmage. There's a lot to work on by both clubs.
 
Two different people told me it was 7 TDs to 3. Im pretty sure they have film to back up the 7 TDs scored by 1st and 2nd teams. Being that it’s just a scrimmage, it’s not that big of a deal. Teams are mixing in players just to see what they have. I agree that there’s lots of work to be done. Every team in the state at this time in the season are working out kinks.
 
If you read what he said you would realize he didn't dispute how many TD's were scored total. He was just pointing out that the 1st teams vs each other was only 4TD's (Essex) to 3TD's (WC).
 
Saw the 1st 20min or so from a friend streaming. It was the 10 play format for the 20min I saw. Essex score 2 TDs in their 10 plays. One on the 1st play and the other was about 3 or 4 plays later. On W.C. 10 plays, they scored once. Don’t know much after that because the stream stopped.

Curious....scored a TD or TDs from where? The 10 of the opponent, the 30, midfield, their own 30 ,20, etc. Please be specific. Where did the teams start their possessions in the ten play format. From what yd line and who's yd line.
 
If you read what he said you would realize he didn't dispute how many TD's were scored total. He was just pointing out that the 1st teams vs each other was only 4TD's (Essex) to 3TD's (WC).

It always is because specifics are often not given. Here's the example and I've seen the following scenario below or something close to it countless times.......

Each team gets 10 plays and starts at midfield.
Team A runs 9 plays averaging 4-5 yds per play, and scores on the 10th play and everyone walks away saying, *team A has one score." What they don't think about is, team A always got 10 yds in 3-4 plays and in a real game scenario, they would have never punted and would have eventually scored and eatin the clock up.

Team B (the opponent) gets their 10 plays from midfield and after the first 4 plays, they are negative yardage and in a real scenario, would have to punt. On play 6, they hit a huge TD pass. On play 7, 8, 9, they gain 8 yds and would have had to punt again in a real game, but knowing it's play 10, they throw it to the end zone and score. Folks walk away from the scrimmage and say, "team B won it 2 scores to 1." Well, you can see how misleading that statement could be in trying to determine who is the better team.

This is why foundation games for the first half of play tell much more than the 10 play format if trying to determine which team is truly better. It's so hard to tell from scrimmages. I don't know if foundation games allow kickers and punters to go unimpeded or returns, etc. I don't think they used to, so even this takes 1/3rd of the game (special teams) off the table. Scrimmages and even foundation games are far more serving for the coaches and players, not the fans. It should be this way. Coaches are trying to get the pieces together. It's not that fans can't have fun and watch their teams and see how they look because that's cool, but drawing conclusions on which team would win in a real-regular season scenario could be tough.
 
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If you read what he said you would realize he didn't dispute how many TD's were scored total. He was just pointing out that the 1st teams vs each other was only 4TD's (Essex) to 3TD's (WC).
If you read what I posted “Essex FINISHED with 7 TDs and William Campbell FINISHED with 3tds”,...that’s the entire scrimmage. Generalsnathion06 said “With the ones on the field, the outcome was Essex 4 TDs, William Campbell 3 TDs. William Campbell gave up 2 Touchdowns with the first 5 plays and only 2 for the remainder of the scrimmage”. He’s only giving you the TD total (4 to 3) with both teams 1st sting and said that was it for the remainder of the scrimmage. That’s not true because the scrimmage was not over after the 1st teams were done. Essex 2nd team scored 3 more.
 
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Curious....scored a TD or TDs from where? The 10 of the opponent, the 30, midfield, their own 30 ,20, etc. Please be specific. Where did the teams start their possessions in the ten play format. From what yd line and who's yd line.
Each team started from their own 30 yard during the 10 play session.
 
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