Just driving down the road and it's being talked about a lot on the radio....B-Mitch/Finley show
Hayfield back in the playoffs...maybe not
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It made BOTH morning shows on WFAN in D.C. this morning according to a friend and it is blowing up. People who never think about or pay attention to high school sports are now hearing and I doubt the sides are enjoying the increased attention and scrutiny.
They said the AD who is on a leave of absence is leaving the country.....going to France or something like that.
They were cleared before the season, and everyone was fine with it. Now, after waiting the entire year, people suddenly want to make it an issue.
These young boys today are surrounded by negative influences, and instead of supporting their chance to play football, people are creating unnecessary drama. It’s bigger than the game. I knew a kid who couldn’t play because transfer rules left him stuck at a bad school. He ended up in the streets and lost his life at just 15.
The Overton brothers are doing more than winning football games, they’re saving and changing lives. Unlike many coaches who only care about their players during practice or games, these men are involved in their lives off the field. I’ve seen firsthand how much they care, and that’s why I’ll always vouch for them. This isn’t just about football.
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What about the players that are losing out on getting "discovered" because their team loses to Hayfield and can't move on? It's quite possible that many players are losing out due to this team not following the rules.
Ball out against Hayfield…but if DO stayed at Freedom they would be playing this team in a different jersey anyway with no complaints 🤷🏽♂️
Your contention they were cleared before the season is dubious, likely based on a less than complete understanding and as things continue to trickle out possibly misrepresented. If time was wasted, it is the result of the FCPS administrators' failure. The VHSL failure was not following process and not dotting their is and crossing their t's but, not an inconsistent and potentially fraudulent misrepresentation.
I am sorry for the kid you knew and what happened. Kids should be supported. However, I believe that the ultimate outcome is likely due to much more than not being able to play football and a well rounded education and growth is about far more than the game. It is a sad scenario played out far too often where athletes lack the life skills once they no longer have the game to lean on. Good for the Overtons if that is truly what they are about. You say you have seen it so I will take your word for it. The allegations raised and the investigations likely to come will sort out actions and motives both on and off the field.
I appreciate your perspective, but I think the idea that FCPS admin “cleared them” doesn’t really say much toward whether or not they’re following the rules. I would argue Overton could be that positive influence without those kids being on his HS football team.
I don’t know man, that logic train doesn’t really work for me. It sounds more like a little kid who’s mad he got caught cheating pointing at the other kids who got away with it. Doesn’t make it right & isn’t a compelling reason to justify breaking the rules IMO. I feel like it’s an obvious opportunity to demonstrate integrity.
Again....very simple. Rules are in place. You either follow them or you don't. If you don't, consequences should be implemented. Justifications can always be given as to why you broke the rules....you still broke the rules. I would say the coach is the least culpable. AD/FCPS Admin are the worst ones in my book.
How can the one actually responsible for breaking the rule, if they know it or should reasonably be expected to know it, be any less culpable than those looking the other way or covering up/condoning the rule breaking?
Very well. Then he should compete as an Independent...not in the VHSL...not against teams that are abiding by residency and other restrictions.
After all of this I’m sure he will be at a private school in NOVA moving forward. Mainly because i feel like VhSL will hit him with a stronger ban after all of this.
I compare this situation to Chris Scott and Ocean Lakes. He ended up at Bishop Sullivan until he seen how hard it really is to get kids to buy into private school.
The coach is the first level. Coaches can inadvertently break rules or they can knowingly break rules. Either way, the Principle/AD/Admin are the ones that should tell him about it and keep him from breaking rules continually. If the coach screws up and no one above him calls him on it, then they are more to blame than the coach in my opinion.
Yeah, I think he would need to go somewhere that already has a program. That attempt to build one at Sullivan was always gonna be an uphill climb. There’s quite a bit to navigate at that school with the family money walking the hallways.
I think we are basically saying similar things and I agree with you if the coach did not know or misinterpreted the rule. The buck ultimately stops at the top.
"HIS" kids? Those kids belong to the school they are zoned for.... unless the proper protocol is followed. If he wants to be a PME youth coach and have HIS KIDS....stay there, or go to the Private School route. He's NOT ENTITLED to any kid just because he coached them when they were 10. That's a goofy thought and exactly WHY they're in the mess they're in right now.
I'm pretty sure he's trolling with that post.
Exclusive: Explosive texts indicate athletic director involved in Hayfield recruiting scheme exploiting federal homeless loopholes
Editor's Note: This story has been updated to include the statement from Fairfax County Public Schools.
No matter which side you stand on in regard to this story, one thing we can all acknowledge is that it is not going away
I believe the judge who allowed them in really made a bad situation worse. Does the VHSL not have the right and responsibility to enforce it's own rules. He considered harm to Hayfield in this ruling, but did he consider the harm to the other member schools and the VHSL, and the horrible precedent that has been set?Exclusive: Explosive texts indicate athletic director involved in Hayfield recruiting scheme exploiting federal homeless loopholes
Editor's Note: This story has been updated to include the statement from Fairfax County Public Schools.www.fairfaxtimes.com
No matter which side you stand on in regard to this story, one thing we can all acknowledge is that it is not going away
Based on this new evidence the VHSL could file a motion or simply just force Hayfield to forfeit all of their regular season games. It's important to note, the judge only granted the injunction. His ruling was solely based on the VHSL's failure to follow their guidelines for a review. He never absolved Hayfield from any wrongdoing.
I'm done now...this information/article stands alone and speaks for itself. Anyone that can defend this, seriously needs to do some DEEP SOUL SEARCHING and their level of respect for the basic rules, regulations and fair play, regulations of high school athletics.Exclusive: Explosive texts indicate athletic director involved in Hayfield recruiting scheme exploiting federal homeless loopholes
Editor's Note: This story has been updated to include the statement from Fairfax County Public Schools.
No matter which side you stand on in regard to this story, one thing we can all acknowledge is that it is not going away
Leaving the country? To follow his wife? Sure.....That glass house is shattered. There may be a few people that have trouble finding employment after the dust settles.
I have nothing more to add to this disgusting situation....
I’m lost. So after banning them then unbanning then letting them play potentially 3 games (by Dec 4) they can come back and ban them again? At this point the VHSL looks terrible.
It's NOT the VHSL that would be banning them - this time again - it would be the original suspension reinstated. The Judge could decide to lift the temporary injunction. In which case, the 2 year post season suspension would stand. That would kickoff a series of unfortunate events for all of the teams in their Region.
Nooooo....he used his wife's new job, which is out of the country, as the reason for stepping down from the AD position a few days ago. Timing is everything as they say.
Exclusive: Explosive texts indicate athletic director involved in Hayfield recruiting scheme exploiting federal homeless loopholes
Editor's Note: This story has been updated to include the statement from Fairfax County Public Schools.
Handling of Hayfield football ‘train wreck’ questioned by some Fairfax school board members
Fairfax County Public Schools Superintendent Dr. Michelle Reid’s announcement last week that the division will commission an independent review of its student-athlete protocols appears to have done little to quell the questions mounting around Hayfield Secondary School’s football team.
According to this article, FCPS knew of these texts on Tuesday, last week!!! They should have immediately notified that judge, stepped in & prevented Hayfield from playing their game last week!!!!
VHSL accusations implied a cover up. I wonder why they didn't recommend forfeiture of the whole season?
How can the Hawk's best interest out way all the other schools they played & will before Dec 4th?
Hayfield principle, likely from all the recent evidence, just shut down their football program. AGAIN, they knew this information about those texts last Tuesday!!!
November 25, 2024
Dear FCPS Families,
I am writing to share a significant update on the current actions regarding our high school athletic programs. This evening, the principal of Hayfield Secondary School announced the difficult decision to withdraw the football team from further postseason play. I have asked Tom Horn, Executive Director, Activities and Student Athletics, to work with VHSL to take any and all appropriate next steps.
Dear FCPS Families,
I am writing to share a significant update on the current actions regarding our high school athletic programs. This evening, the principal of Hayfield Secondary School announced the difficult decision to withdraw the football team from further postseason play. I have asked Tom Horn, Executive Director, Activities and Student Athletics, to work with VHSL to take any and all appropriate next steps.
So many eggs, so many faces! Time for people to start losing their jobs. I feel for the kids who are caught up in all of this. For the parents that crossed the line and allowed their kids to do it, I have no respect for you.
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