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It was definitely a disappointing result for the Green Hornets. A game in which statistically Wilson Memorial dominated but once again just unable to finish drives.

Saw a lot of good signs from Wilson Friday night, especially from the defense. The offense showed some great signs as well as they practically tripled the output of the Luray offense. ut just couldn't finish drives. A sign of their youth.

A blocked XP was the difference on score in this game, with Wilson also narrowly missing two field goals in the 2nd half.

My one big complain is if 3rd and long deep in opponents territory, with our kicker who has a great leg, run the 3rd down play towards the middle of the field and set him up for the go ahead kick. Instead we ran to the left setting him up from the hash for a difficult angle.

I really feel the better team did not win last night, but that's football and Luray fought, made plays they needed to, and was able to capitalize on Wilsons missed chances to get the W. Congrats to the Bulldogs and good luck the rest of the season!
 
Acceptance of unacceptable behavior. I said it when they were on top and I am saying it now. Too much celebration leads to too much negative reactions. If some of those previous players would have been knocked down a peg or two these young guys wouldn't think it is acceptable now. No one is bigger than the team and I can't believe some of those star seniors from last year believed that to be true.

I'd have to think if the attitude was better, the record would be too.

I think we are looking at a 3 or 4 win team here and based on the last few JV seasons, I don't see the talent for 9-1 returning for a while. Last year there was an article in the Newsleader eluding to the question of how things would look in Fishersville after 2014... I don't think I am the only one who saw this coming.

It will be a tough road, but I think there must be a lot of changes for the glory to return. It is nearly impossible for a program to just ride high year in, year out. Look across the county at Buffalo Gap. They fell off after the 07-08 run, (maybe not quite this quick) and fought through some tough times, but here they are playing great football again. It is a cycle, and Wilson appears to have swung downward, but they'll be back... someday.
 
Wilson could be 3A during next cycle..... they are only 20 kids away from the cut off.
 
Goat, they certainly are very close and continue to grow in numbers. The thing is that should mean more athletes based on available pool size.
Unlike Wakefield I don't believe they are real far away. I do however think he hit the major flaw and that is attitude. Attitude is a reflection of leadership. You can read into that whatever you wish but Tim is right.
 
Trevor_Cash said:
It was definitely a disappointing result for the Green Hornets. A game in which statistically Wilson Memorial dominated but once again just unable to finish drives.

Saw a lot of good signs from Wilson Friday night, especially from the defense. The offense showed some great signs as well as they practically tripled the output of the Luray offense. ut just couldn't finish drives. A sign of their youth.

A blocked XP was the difference on score in this game, with Wilson also narrowly missing two field goals in the 2nd half.

My one big complain is if 3rd and long deep in opponents territory, with our kicker who has a great leg, run the 3rd down play towards the middle of the field and set him up for the go ahead kick. Instead we ran to the left setting him up from the hash for a difficult angle.

I really feel the better team did not win last night, but that's football and Luray fought, made plays they needed to, and was able to capitalize on Wilsons missed chances to get the W. Congrats to the Bulldogs and good luck the rest of the season!
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I thought the Luray side was going to come unglued on the Wilson touchdown, as they felt time should have expired before the timeout was called on the first attempt from the 1. Wilson actually played a little better than I was expecting, and put themselves in a position to win the game multiple times.
 
Also, I had read some complaints in regards to the Wilson PA guy earlier in the year, but I enjoyed hearing him last night. I like a PA guy that tries to get the home team fired up.
 
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I thought the Luray side was going to come unglued on the Wilson touchdown, as they felt time should have expired before the timeout was called on the first attempt from the 1. Wilson actually played a little better than I was expecting, and put themselves in a position to win the game multiple times.
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Personally, I felt Luray got jobbed on that timeout call and so did some of the Wilson fans sitting near me. Wilson got away with one, the blocked PAT made it right.
 
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Personally, I felt Luray got jobbed on that timeout call and so did some of the Wilson fans sitting near me. Wilson got away with one, the blocked PAT made it right.
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I wasn't at a good angle to see but I thought the play was still going on when the clock hit 0, so I was slightly confused, but again, at my angle I couldn't see.
 
I also felt they were jabbed a little. Not going to lie. Only thing I could come up with is before the snap Coach told them as soon as you blow the whistle I want a timeout.


Wilson still has a chance to have a very strong defense as they showed last night. It looked as if we loaded the defense with our upperclassmen and played mostly youth on offense which I'm very much okay with
 
I agree with Tim as well. The leadership to me is lacking big time. This doesn't have that "family" mentality personally that the last 5 years we had. I have noticed a lot that players rarely even help each other up. They don't seem to show a lot of pride. Also too many players standing around talking on the sideline not watching the game.
 
Wilson certainly still has size and speed, just not like last year's team. They really had the talent to win a championship at least once out of the past three years. I guess that proves just how difficult it is to win it all.
 
Just because a player is a senior does not mean they have experience. So I still classify that as youth.

Also we had players playing different places in the Luray game with Logan and Kyle being the starting wing backs and gaining most the time there. We appear to have loaded the defense with our seniors while leaving the offensive skill positions to some underclassmen.
 
Called inexperience in my book. Hope you enjoyed the high scoring affairs last year while your "youth" stayed on the sideline and watched. Looks like it paid dividends for your team.

Maybe that's why you see so many disinterested players on your sideline....
 
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You Guys got PRIDE , yes ! Red PRIDE ! Wilson could have the same type of pride as the Red Team . It starts with the coaches and fed to the team , starting with your leaders . Not just your seniors but kids that can show leadership . Kids that discipline the younger players and make them grow up . Having kids like this make the coaches look good. Get this trend started and it can stay for years ! If an underclassmen gets out of line , out of focus so to speak , I believe your leaders should take care of it . If the kid does not take a hint and become a team player , he should feel the pain on the practice field . He either becomes a believer or he can go play round ball .
Riverheads has a bunch of believers on their team . Not an ounce of quit in their 130 lb. bodies ! It showed again last night vs Buffalo Gap . Leadership and refuse to lose . No matter the score or the time on the clock they play to the end .
Good luck to the Green team , but I think they have a long row to hoe .
 
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For the first time in maybe forever XCROSS I completely agree with you. An it's something I saw at Wilson the last 5-6 years that I do not see in this team.

Fuerent for someone who has yet to show who their school is you sure do have a personal vendetta against Wilson Memorial my friend.

After this weeks game I still feel confident Wilson beats Stonewall & Page. If they put a complete game together maybe East Rock. I know we always play Draft and the team from Greenville close and some of their fans seem to think we will again, but I'm not sure.

I know a coach from Draft who I'm sure will love to hang as many on us as possible and well, we all know how the team from Greenville an us feel about each other.
 
This board has changed. Up is down. Cats like dogs. Trevor agreed with xcross. This must be why the floods have arrived.
 
I wasn't there of course but I do have to admit I went "hmmmm" when I read in one of the papers that Wilson moved 85 yards in 7 plays in 31 seconds and that two of those were long runs. So I did wonder about the number crunching on that and how it could possibly be done, even if you had all three time-outs.
 
I knew right Tim!

And longtimer Wilson got out of bounds on most of the runs stopping the clock an also having to wait for chains to be set. Plus a huge chunk on the pass play that was a GREAT diving catch by Mcbee
 
Just to clarify one thing after watching film and counting the seconds on our scoring drive, the play did take longer than the 3 secs on the clock. The refs were told they wanted a timeout at the whistle. I asked my son and he said that the play was blown dead when forward momentum was stopped, then the RB bounced it outside and was tackled short. This is the second time this year the whistle was blown early on us. This time it helped and we got another play. The last time it took a TD away against Lee in a 7-0 ballgame. This is after a poorly officiated game against Gap.

Friday night was a must win game and we didn't get the job done. It's frustrating because to outsiders who do not know that this senior class is the hardest working class they have had in a long time according to the coaches. I see most of these kids giving everything they have and more, they just do not have a lot to show for it. They need help, not only from the underclassmen. This team is better than most thought they would be, and there is talent. The underclassmen have talent as well. Decisions can't keep putting you in tough situations, and you cannot keep shooting yourself in the foot and not finish drives. I have yet to come away from a game and say "that team was just better than us". Outside of the first half against Wayneboro, if we put together any offense at all we have a chance.

There are no Rah Rah guys on this team. That is different from the past. That does not mean they lack leadership. They wanted to do 7 on 7's during the summer and where told they were not ready. The seniors before the season started took it upon themselves to put together two 7 on 7 scrimmages with no adults or coaches. Funny thing is they went against the red team. No fights, no problems,no adults, just teenagers from two schools whose fans dislike each other. That said a lot about the kids from both schools. If they continue to fight when so many things have gone against them, including some of the fans they will be a tough out for anyone. This team is what I said it would be in a post at the beginning of the season, very good defensively, offense is a work in progress.

And for you guys from the red team, just remember the three years you played in the same division as us you have nothing to show for it either. You now are the largest 1A school in the state so I am sure you will have a lot to brag about. And we all know how much you love to brag. That is until Essex comes to town...
 
WilsonFootball, what do you have to show for the three years we played in "your division"? Yeah that's what I thought, nothing. We have played against each other close the last few years but let's be real, the super class that came through there is and will be your calling card for a while. I do commend the players that tried to get 7 on 7's cause that does show leadership. Overall I agree with a good portion of what you are saying but being an a$$ has become more and more common from YOUR fanbase. And I promise the county teams hate you guys just as much if not more at this time than the Red Team. I don't think you see or have seen any of our players being disrespectful of teams they are beating soundly. They hand the ball to the ref and line up to play again. You can't argue this happened plenty over the past few years with the Green Team.

Now back to the Gadiator bashing you are injecting into this, we are the second/third largest 1A school and neither you me or the players have anything to do with what clissification we play in. We play whoever is in the schedule just like you guys do. Of course as stated earlier, Wilson will probably be moved up since they are in the top 4 of 2A student numbers(unless someone gets the county to redistrict). And speaking of Essex since you brought them in, I don't think there are but a handful of 2A and 3A top tier teams that can beat them consistently. I would love the chance to see that match up and either way it will be in the playoffs since we have been pretty much every year since Casto has been here. Tell me how many playoffs have you made without Cullen at QB or a Swift in the backfield? Enough said about that I suppose.

Now to be clear, I have defended at times the fact that there is talent on the Green team. In my humble Red Team opinion, most are not Seniors. I am not saying ALL but most of the skill position players that I had seen that are capable are your younger players. Which may or may not bode well for next years team. Of course with the boo bird fans that drown out cheers this year who knows how much support the team will have moving forward. Its like this, I have spoken to some of the Wilson players and they are great kids, the unforgiving fanbase that think this is easy has pissed some of them off. They play for each other and school pride not the jack wagons that question why they are doing this or that. Take that for what its worth but the attitude of the fan base there is poison to this team. I say this with sincerity, good luck to the players ( because they are just 16-18 yr old kids after all) and I can't wait to visit the Hive this year.
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RedPride, you guys sure do get defensive when the 1A thing gets brought up. If your reread my post you will see the word EITHER. Go back and look at all the posts from all of your teams backers and see how many times one of you guys inject us into the conversation. Trevor is the standard poster for us on these boards. Outside of him, there are not many. Most of us only respond after you guys inject your opinions of how great you do things and how we are classless and all that normal stuff that you like to do on twitter and these boards. Outsiders can make their own decisions on whose fans are more toxic. These types are on every team, at every school. Depends on what color you wear if it bothers you or not. Outside of Draft, you are by far more disliked than us.

2011 and 2012 we did not have a Cullen at QB. 2011 we had a Swift but his name was not Savant. The last 10 years this rivalry has been close and you hold a 7-4 record against us with all but 1 being very close games. Yes last years class was special. So was the 2012 and 2013 classes. So will the classes that are moving up. If most of the talent is underclassmen, then that bodes well for the future. Once again our JV team is having a rough time, and I saw they brought up a couple more freshmen.

Even though you have talked to many players, trust me when I say I have the inside track on what is going on with this team. How hard they have played this year in very difficult situations I could not be more proud of.
 
We made the playoffs in 2007? without a Cullen or Swift. :) but I do not want to talk about that 1st round match up with a powerhouse Gretna team.

Also the county is changing up the districts I believe next year. Funneling kids towards Riverheads actually. I remember reading the article an it didn't make a whole lot of sense.
 
I read it several times and I do get a little defensive about the 1A stuff. Really doesn't matter though cause our regular season has generally been played against the wonderful 2A teams we play our district schedule against. Oh and it's not often they have the title in their possession, 1A or not. Consistently we have won and I encourage you to look at more than just reading the biased local media. Across the state we are considered to be one of the standards for success year in and year out.
 
Now Trevor, you had to bring Gretna into the mix. We were overmatched in that game and the better team certainly won. I have said this anytime it was mentioned. But I guess looking at it Goochland was your Achilles heal ( which by the at we did manage to beat). It's pretty clear to all outsiders that the rivalry is about more than football.

I had heard there was talk of redoing the districts which of course would send students to other schools. I hope the county invests out here in the fields like they do in the Metropolis of Fishersville. I would think based in geography more students would go to Fort but it's up to the supervisors I suppose.
I guess the powers that be want to expose more kids to the winning ways of RHS.

#RedPrideNation
 
So all of you continue to tell everyone. I do not think you have ever read or seen a Wilson supporter take anything away from your accomplishments. You have a very good coach. My posts are in reaction to your posts directed towards us. So I guess you deserve credit for what you have done, yet Wilson who was a baseball school for years and now has played competitive football for 10 years, not 4, 10 gets none.

I just looked at your thread from your game with Gap. Not a single post from fans at Wilson. Now look at this one. I guess there is a reason that Wilson has won the district sportsmanship award so many times.
 
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So all of you continue to tell everyone. I do not think you have ever read or seen a Wilson supporter take anything away from your accomplishments. You have a very good coach. My posts are in reaction to your posts directed towards us. So I guess you deserve credit for what you have done, yet Wilson who was a baseball school for years and now has played competitive football for 10 years, not 4, 10 gets none.

I just looked at your thread from your game with Gap. Not a single post from fans at Wilson. Now look at this one. I guess there is a reason that Wilson has won the district sportsmanship award so many times.
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Really, 10 years? That level of delusion is what has your own fans questioning playcalling. The amount of success over the past 4 years has spoiled the casual fan and those are the ones that are booing their own team at times. You had 2 winning seasons since 99 outside of the past four years. 5-5 is not a winning season. And since I talk to Trevor outside of this board, I didn't feel I needed your permission to back up what another poster had put up on his thread. 11-5 in the playoffs with one loss in 06. Two times you lost in the last four years to the eventual state champ. Now conversly we have gone 22-12 in the playoffs with 3 rings and 4 times losing to the eventual state champ. Only year since 99 we haven't made it was in 04. That my friend is consistently getting it done and I do think for the most part we get credit for that. Well except someone always brings up that it happened in 1A. That is when people are being a A$$ trying to lessen the accomplishment.

I do applaud the conversion from a predominately baseball school to experiencing success in football. I will try to make the point again that the senior class from last year was the biggest factor in this run of success, not some phenomenal coaching. I will go back to one of my favorite players from a couple of years ago, Ricky Hanger. That kid was a team leader and honestly fun to watch from the defensive side of the ball. He played under coach Mac and the current staff, and played well under both.

Now I will speak sacrilege and say that if you were to beat us this year it won't matter to me but so much, because Wilson is not our Super Bowl. Playing into December is what I am looking forward to every year.

I said it in another post, I love when all the area teams are competitive. I also do not think poorly of any of the players even on our most disliked rivals. I do not care for some of the fans of the area teams, honestly including my own. With that I am stepping out of this thread as we will never agree. I will get back on the 1A boards so I don't offend any of the 2A guys. I need to understand my place in all this so as not to cause a ruckus.
 
Yes I was referring to the first round throttling Gretna gave us. That was the year we scored to end the game and beat the team from Greenville. Our reward was that first round game with Gretna. You guys went on to win the championship.

If you want me to be completely honest the entire Shenandoah is in a down year. The team from Greenville unfortunately appears to be the top team an even worse is the Cougars appear to be 2nd best. A Wilson fans worst nightmare. I really don't believe the rest of the district has gotten that much better, I just feel Wilson and the red team have dropped off a little(or a lot depending on which team) and makes the other teams appear better
 
I said last 10 years. I said we were competitive, which is not delusional. There are 7 winning seasons, and three .500 seasons. One of the three 5-5 teams we were in Div III. We tied for the Div III District title at 8-2 the last year year there. Go back to the 80's and 90's and you can really uphold your argument.


Sorry Trevor, I did not mean to speak for you. I knew what you were talking about and wanted to defend your statement. I think outside of Essex, 1A is down as well, so they might actually get to tell us how to do it again this year.

Sorry, I can't help the 1A comments. They see themselves as Alabama, and they are actually Mount Union. They still have all that Red Pride and stuff
 
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No worries! You just beat me to referencing which game I was talking about.

The mount Union comment is perfect!
 
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Goat, they certainly are very close and continue to grow in numbers. The thing is that should mean more athletes based on available pool size.
Unlike Wakefield I don't believe they are real far away. I do however think he hit the major flaw and that is attitude. Attitude is a reflection of leadership. You can read into that whatever you wish but Tim is right.
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"Attitude is a small thing that makes a big difference." Winston Churchill..... It's been my observation that once a team is dominate, keeping the right attitude is the toughest thing to do and the greatest thing that brings a team down. How many times do we see great teams that get a ton of talent back but then don't perform anywhere close to where they were the year before. The players believe the hype, get arrogant, aren't as hungry, and don't work as hard. At first everyone says they will get it together but then they don't. The parents attitude is a detriment as well as they don't put the blame where it belongs...on their kid. They start whining and blaming the coaches. There is a fine line between average and greatness and there is always a team that is hungry and paying the price ready to take the top spot. That is what I love about football. Keep working hard or you will get knocked off. Law of nature.
 
So....if the rest of the district is "down"....what does that say about WM sitting at 1-4 and 0-2 in the "Weak Sisters District"? Just because your team is struggling doesn't mean everyone else is down.

How about we spin it this way.....ever thought that during your 4 year stint of success is when all others (minus Riverheads) in the district were down?
 
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I actually said Wilson dropped off a lot but hey nice try on spinning that! It says a lot about our team though. It says that in a weak year in our district we are a key component in it being weak.

That would be believable if during our runs teams from the district didn't on several occasions provide upsets, very near upsets of top ranked teams, or advance as far if not further than us(looking at you Greenville)

Several years Wilson Memorial was faced with beating teams from the Shenandoah in the playoffs due to those teams (Draft, East Rock, RHS) advancing deeper as well. So I'd say our district the last 4-5 years was very strong, but I just don't see it this year
 
In my humble opinion, I think you need to add Buffalo Gap and East Rockingham to your top teams of the year Trevor. Yes they both had TD losses to what you say is the top 2 teams, but in ER case, it was their QB's first game of the season, and the kid is VERY good. He had nearly 300 yards passing and that was with some wet weather. If he continues to progress, I see they have a very good chance at knocking off Riverheads and Buffalo Gap. Not saying they will, but they should be in them. Much of the standing in the district should come down to Friday with SD at BG.
 
I definitely have an eye on East Rock! If they can pass like they did against you guys in the rain they will definitely cause some problems!

Buffalo Gap is a very tough, hard nosed team, but watching Wilson play them they really didn't impress me too much. Of course they almost beat the team from Greenville, but I believe weather had a lot to do with that.


Right now, of course things could change by the end of the year, but I see RHS and Draft having decent runs in their respective divisions. East Rock if they continue to sling it around like that will make a little noise as well an I think Luray if they can have any type of consistency will win a game or 2 in 1A playoffs.
 
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