Playoff Snapshot- 3 Weeks To Go

[CRF4Dan]

With 3 weeks left in the season and the VHSL Ratings release this morning, here is how the playoffs look as of today...

#8 Matoaca at #1 Highland Springs
#7 Douglas Freeman at #2 Deep Run
#6 Clover Hill at #3 Manchester
#5 Prince George at #4 Varina

 

[DRWildcatDad2018]

@BleedingNavy I was wondering since Petersburg hasn't been what we thought they would be this year if you favor PG this week? And if you were planning on taking a break from Dinwiddie to go see that game this Friday?

 

[DRWildcatDad2018]

@mbonape1 Nice win last week against Powhatan! Your guys going to put a nail in the LC Bird coffin this week?

 

[HooSprings]

With 3 weeks left in the season and the VHSL Ratings release this morning, here is how the playoffs look as of today...

#8 Matoaca at #1 Highland Springs
#7 Douglas Freeman at #2 Deep Run
#6 Clover Hill at #3 Manchester
#5 Prince George at #4 Varina

I know it’s hard to do the numbers but would a loss to Highland Springs drop Varina below the four seed? I’m guessing it would figure on results of other games but the other teams,especially CH,seem to be playing well. Deep run seems pretty firm in that two seed, and that would be a heck of a rematch with them and Freeman.

 

[DRWildcatDad2018]

@HooSprings "heck of a rematch with them and Freeman" ???

Because it was a close 29-6 game?

 

[HooSprings]

@HooSprings "heck of a rematch with them and Freeman" ???

Because it was a close 29-6 game?

Anytime you get west end kids together,it’s a good game. Most of them grew up together in the rec leagues. 3 weeks left though.

 

[DRWildcatDad2018]

Anytime you get west end kids together,it’s a good game. Most of them grew up together in the rec leagues. 3 weeks left though.

Yeah, it's a rivalry game and so a chance to beat them twice would, end their season, and get a playoff win would amp up the energy level even more. Avoiding the former and applying the latter two to the DF side would be extra motivation for them too. But, yes, we still have a long way to go.

 

[CRF4Dan]

I know it’s hard to do the numbers but would a loss to Highland Springs drop Varina below the four seed? I’m guessing it would figure on results of other games but the other teams,especially CH,seem to be playing well. Deep run seems pretty firm in that two seed, and that would be a heck of a rematch with them and Freeman.

I cannot imagine a loss to Varina would drop them below #4... if anything I think Varina and Highland Springs would flip spots... but it would take some number crunching to really say with any certainty.

 

[HooSprings]

I cannot imagine a loss to Varina would drop them below #4... if anything I think Varina and Highland Springs would flip spots... but it would take some number crunching to really say with any certainty.

I know there is no way Highland springs falls below the four seed with that schedule,unless they lose out. HIGHLY UNLIKELY! My question is...could Varina fall below the 4 seed with a loss to HSHS?

 

[CRF4Dan]

I know there is no way Highland springs falls below the four seed with that schedule,unless they lose out. HIGHLY UNLIKELY! My question is...could Varina fall below the 4 seed with a loss to HSHS?

Hmmm... Possibly? Let's say Prince George wins 2 of their next 3 which is distinctly possible or Clover Hill can win out... they might overtake Varina with another loss but I think Colonial Heights possibly being 1-9 and Meadowbrook 0-10 would hurt Prince George's hopes.

 

[mbonape1]

@mbonape1 Nice win last week against Powhatan! Your guys going to put a nail in the LC Bird coffin this week?

Nothing would make me happier to be honest with you... let's see what happens. I think we will.

 

[Thomasddev]

I know it’s hard to do the numbers but would a loss to Highland Springs drop Varina below the four seed? I’m guessing it would figure on results of other games but the other teams,especially CH,seem to be playing well. Deep run seems pretty firm in that two seed, and that would be a heck of a rematch with them and Freeman.

I guess strength of schedule doesn't factor in because I don't think it's fair for Deep run to get #2 seed with a weak schedule while Manchester only loss will be to HSHS and Varina loss is double ot to Manchester and perhaps HS all top 3 teams. Deep Run is getting a pass and they should have to play Varina or Manchester 2nd round instead of HS having a tougher road through the playoffs than them.

 

[CHUKNOW]

Hmmm... Possibly? Let's say Prince George wins 2 of their next 3 which is distinctly possible or Clover Hill can win out... they might overtake Varina with another loss but I think Colonial Heights possibly being 1-9 and Meadowbrook 0-10 would hurt Prince George's hopes.

Which is why there is know way if I were Matoaca or Prince George and Dinwiddie I would play Colonial Heights ever again! There is absolutely no benefit.

 

[HooSprings]

I guess strength of schedule doesn't factor in because I don't think it's fair for Deep run to get #2 seed with a weak schedule while Manchester only loss will be to HSHS and Varina loss is double ot to Manchester and perhaps HS all top 3 teams. Deep Run is getting a pass and they should have to play Varina or Manchester 2nd round instead of HS having a tougher road through the playoffs than them.

Deep Run scheduled 2 teams that were in the playoffs,including the region final. Those teams on their schedule from their old district refuse to remove them. They may fall back to 3,but no further unless they get upset before them.

 

[CRF4Dan]

Deep Run scheduled 2 teams that were in the playoffs,including the region final. Those teams on their schedule from their old district refuse to remove them. They may fall back to 3,but no further unless they get upset before them.

Deep Run still has to play Thomas Jefferson. While the Wildcats will be favored, I would not dismiss the Vikings.

 

[DRWildcatDad2018]

I guess strength of schedule doesn't factor in because I don't think it's fair for Deep run to get #2 seed with a weak schedule while Manchester only loss will be to HSHS and Varina loss is double ot to Manchester and perhaps HS all top 3 teams. Deep Run is getting a pass and they should have to play Varina or Manchester 2nd round instead of HS having a tougher road through the playoffs than them.

In a way it does take strength of schedule into account by adding points for opponent victories. Obviously a team gets more points for a win than a loss, but that evens out a little if you beat a winless team and another team loses to a 9 win team. No system is perfect, but it is the same one that we have been using during the HS and Bird title runs. So I hope that is not whining I hear. How many times was Bird the #1 seed in the region in their championship runs?

I don't have any details on our scheduling other than it is mostly the same teams that we have been playing for years. Maybe we are better than previous years and maybe those teams are down this year, but that happens with just about everybody at some time. You have to beat the teams you face with what you have available that day. If that earns you something nobody else thinks that you deserve, that is their problem.

Go Wildcats!

 

[DRWildcatDad2018]

Deep Run still has to play Thomas Jefferson. While the Wildcats will be favored, I would not dismiss the Vikings.

Definitely! TJ is a very good team. They always bring a little extra motivation against us and have been more than we could handle at times.

 

[Thomasddev]

In a way it does take strength of schedule into account by adding points for opponent victories. Obviously a team gets more points for a win than a loss, but that evens out a little if you beat a winless team and another team loses to a 9 win team. No system is perfect, but it is the same one that we have been using during the HS and Bird title runs. So I hope that is not whining I hear. How many times was Bird the #1 seed in the region in their championship runs?

I don't have any details on our scheduling other than it is mostly the same teams that we have been playing for years. Maybe we are better than previous years and maybe those teams are down this year, but that happens with just about everybody at some time. You have to beat the teams you face with what you have available that day. If that earns you something nobody else thinks that you deserve, that is their problem.

Go Wildcats!

Yeah I can guarantee is definitely not whining if you have heard my responses to some other post I have said repeatedly I like Bo Kite and I think DR has a good team. My only issue was there strength of schedule. I'm a HS guy and just felt it is not fair for teams like Varina and Manchester to drop below DR when they have not played more qualified teams. Now as far as Bird teams I remember undefeated Hermitage and Bird teams have to go on the road in the playoffs and play 1 loss HS teams. It doesn't seem to be the case as of now. Not whining just venting.

 

[mbonape1]

Yeah I can guarantee is definitely not whining if you have heard my responses to some other post I have said repeatedly I like Bo Kite and I think DR has a good team. My only issue was there strength of schedule. I'm a HS guy and just felt it is not fair for teams like Varina and Manchester to drop below DR when they have not played more qualified teams. Now as far as Bird teams I remember undefeated Hermitage and Bird teams have to go on the road in the playoffs and play 1 loss HS teams. It doesn't seem to be the case as of now. Not whining just venting.

Neither one of you is wrong. It just is what it is

 

[mbonape1]

Nothing would make me happier to be honest with you... let's see what happens. I think we will.

@DRWildcatDad2018 so Bird is not bad but they just self destruct too much. Monacan has a bad habit of doing the same but not as much. Several times last night the Bird QB and other skill players kept trying to get to the edge but ended up going backwards Bc we would flat them out then they would try to reverse field and go further backward. They were moving the ball decent but one bad play and it was 3rd and 30. Both teams were missing a few key players due to injuries I think. Monacan was for sure. I think Bird was also. Our QB was off last night too, missed some throws and a few bad reads, several drops from us. Also, I don’t remember it resulting in a turn over but Bird seemed to have trouble snapping the ball to the QB correctly which hurt their timing a few times. Unfortunately they play Manchester next week so this will be the first time this CENTURY they miss the playoffs. They are not far off from being a really good football team but they just need a solid class or 2 and to stop self destructing so much. They still have a lot of clay to mold with.

 

[DRWildcatDad2018]

Sounds like Bird teams before Terrance Ervin, but with a less effective running game. Without a really good passing QB, those long yardage situations create hurdles that are hard to overcome. The snap is so important in timing offenses.