Prayers from all the area high school football fans for all the officers being ambushed
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Pray for our Men In Blue
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Sad that we live in a world where the people who serve and protect us are being shot down for absolutely nothing. Innocent officers that have families. Praying for all of our men in blue. If you see an officer, thank them for their services. We couldn't live on this cruel earth without them .
Many of our forum participants are members of the law enforcement community. And many of these forum members have become personal friends with some of us. Events like today in Baton Rouge, and recently in Dallas, remind us that our friends can be taken from us in the blink of an eye.
I pray that each of you in law enforcement stay focused on your surroundings, be skeptical of everything and everyone, and never, ever, let your guard down.
But please remember, the few that wish to do you harm do not represent the overwhelming majority. You are appreciated and respected.
I pray that each of you in law enforcement stay focused on your surroundings, be skeptical of everything and everyone, and never, ever, let your guard down.
But please remember, the few that wish to do you harm do not represent the overwhelming majority. You are appreciated and respected.
Thanks for this post Wikki. There is no rhyme or reason for any of the violence going on in todays society.
Human life is precious and if we arent careful we will be pitted against each other on more than the football field.
Its easy to react, make a poor decision and judge. I for one have been in a foul mood all day. Not just because the officers were killed. To be honest, some of it is fear and confusion. I can't speak for all, but not once have I left home saying "today I am going to kill or do harm to someone". I guess thats my biggest concern. In the heat of battle just like anyone else, good officers make mistakes.
Protesting and community anger is lawful; however, gun play is not the answer. If anyone thinks the law enforcement community is going to bow down, disarm, and sing cumbaya you are sadly mistaken.
Yes, prayer is a good start. Our brothers in blue and their families need it. The lack of respect for authority is the sole reason for all of this mess and if it continues we will all lose.
Keep praying, but more importantly dont stand back and let this country go to hell. Too many have fought and died for our precious freedom. Take a lawful stand, love your neighbors and most importantly protect your community from those who intend to do it harm. The voice is a powerful tool. God bless you all.
You made a huge comment by posting "no comment"! Was it because of the prayer or hatred for men in blue? Based on your prior post I would hope it was your disdain for religion. If not may GOD have mercy on your soul.
Prayer had nothing to do with it. You said it was the communities lack of respect for authority that is the sole reason for all this mess. I say, it's authorities lack of respect for the community that is the sole reason.
I certainly do not endorse any kind of violence against law enforcement and the families do have my sympathies for this tragedy. Killing is never a solution. But I do not expect this trend to diminish. Frankly, I expect escalation. I am certainly against that but this is where law enforcement has placed themselves. The public is saying enough is enough. Listen.
I don't see where he said it was the sole reason. And anybody who talks in absolutes really sets themselves up to be questioned. The cops have been in the wrong in certain places IMO, however, so has the community. It is inflamed rhetoric from idiots on both sides of the argument who deal in absolutes that prevents a productive discussion and resolution of the matter. If you think the violence against police officers is the public saying enough is enough you are mistaken, at best or a part of the problem as well, at worst. The violence against police officers is essentially a small faction of the public with neither the intelligence nor the mental capacity to effect change and influence thought in a reasonable manner. This can only be resolved when the majority of the public decides enough is enough and exhibits the will to hold the police accountable when they are in the wrong and, just as importantly, quits making excuses to defend aberrant behavior due to perceived past injustices.
If you think that using a high powered rifle to target and kill police officers is somehow associated with a rational statement of injustice, then you must also believe that cops beating a kid to death because he is probably part of a crime wave is also just a statement against crime.
No rational person could ever embrace the validity of either of the above.
No rational person could ever embrace the validity of either of the above.
Shanti, I try very hard to understand you, but today I admit defeat.
You say the Police brought it on themselves? I agree that several officers have made very poor decisions in the past and present. I also believe that officers who act in a criminal manner should be prosecuted as any other citizen; however, for anyone (not you) to judge an entire force and propose war against the police is insane. I know officers are consistently expected to "turn the other cheek", but I did not realize an "eye for an eye" was viewed as acceptable to the masses.
Since you admittedly dodged the Vietnam War, have never been a law enforcement officer and justified practically beating a man to death with chain, I don't expect you to understand the risk involved in being a member of the police, fire, rescue, or military. If you ever need one of the above please feel free to call 911. I promise they will put forth maximmum effort to protect you and your possessions.
Thanks to all of you who have offered your thanks and condolences. Wearing a black band around my badge has become a permanent fixture and it is growing old. Hopefully, our officers will continue to serve honorably and safely go home to their families.
You say the Police brought it on themselves? I agree that several officers have made very poor decisions in the past and present. I also believe that officers who act in a criminal manner should be prosecuted as any other citizen; however, for anyone (not you) to judge an entire force and propose war against the police is insane. I know officers are consistently expected to "turn the other cheek", but I did not realize an "eye for an eye" was viewed as acceptable to the masses.
Since you admittedly dodged the Vietnam War, have never been a law enforcement officer and justified practically beating a man to death with chain, I don't expect you to understand the risk involved in being a member of the police, fire, rescue, or military. If you ever need one of the above please feel free to call 911. I promise they will put forth maximmum effort to protect you and your possessions.
Thanks to all of you who have offered your thanks and condolences. Wearing a black band around my badge has become a permanent fixture and it is growing old. Hopefully, our officers will continue to serve honorably and safely go home to their families.
How many police officers have "done wrong" over the last year (and it's been plastered all over the news)? 10? 20? For the sake of argument let's say it's been 100. That's about .001 percent of the cops on the street in the U.S. Cell phones and social media are the downfall of how people interact. No matter what profession, you are always going to have a low percentage of idiots that are working for it. To condemn the entire US police force is also pure idiocy.
No one brought anything on themselves. Two wrongs don't make it right.
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Shanti, I did say " the lack of respect for authority is the sole problem". It has evolved over time in our homes, schools and community. Please see the following quote. I am not the only one who has felt this way.
“No amount of law enforcement can solve a problem that goes back to the family.“
– J. Edgar Hoover
“No amount of law enforcement can solve a problem that goes back to the family.“
– J. Edgar Hoover
Coming from a young 22 year old black man, whos been pulled over at least 7 times since I've had my license (fender bender included), I can honestly say I've never had one bad run in with the police. Of the 7 times I've been pulled over, I was speeding or breaking a law. Not once have any officer disrespected me or said anything out the way to me. These officers have a job to serve and protect us.. Now like BleedingNavy stated, there are some bad apples, but for the most part, if you show them respect, then they'll show you respect. If you're belligerent and question authority, then unfortunately, bad things happen to you like the tragic events in New York and Missouri. Now no way am I justifying the police's actions but more or less more understanding on why those tragic events took place. My question to black people is why go after innocent police officers when we have black men and women killing each other everyday? Don't Black Lives Matter then too? You can't have it both ways I don't get it. Society is in a terrible shape. Everything is built on race.. At the end of the day, we're all brothers and sisters.. Black, White, Latino, Muslim, Atheists, Christian.. We're all children of the higher being. It's time America wakes up.
That 50 year old quote is true. Families are the most important creator of moral ethics. I agree.
I also agree with the Officer that came to career day when I was 10. His goal was to serve the public and never pull his gun.
That is not today's police force
That's still the goal of 99% of today's police force....the others are the ones you see on TV
We all remember High School days when fights broke out. Some times there are people on the periphery that keep pushing people into the fight ring even if the principles are reluctant to keep fighting. We need to be suspect of those we thought were our friends and want to keep pushing us back into the fight.
Just sayin......
Just sayin......
DSH, I respect you tremendously for having the guts to express your views. It has been my experience over the years that whenever a Black person spoke out for ALL people to be accountable for their actions, they were usually ostracized by the Black community.
We are not talking about a grey area that is simply a difference of opinion. We are talking about common, shared values and morality. All lives matter. Period.
A Black person stopped for any reason should not have to fear for their life, or feel obligated to treat a police officer as a lord and master. And a police officer should use respect, and only the proper and necessary authoritarianism required to maintain control of a situation. A person stopped should at least be compliant. Disrespect, and/or potentially misconstrued actions are begging for an over reaction. Is it easy? Hell no. If it was, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
We are not talking about a grey area that is simply a difference of opinion. We are talking about common, shared values and morality. All lives matter. Period.
A Black person stopped for any reason should not have to fear for their life, or feel obligated to treat a police officer as a lord and master. And a police officer should use respect, and only the proper and necessary authoritarianism required to maintain control of a situation. A person stopped should at least be compliant. Disrespect, and/or potentially misconstrued actions are begging for an over reaction. Is it easy? Hell no. If it was, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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I got my butt kicked twice, (in the 8th grade), in the same fight for that very reason. The guy wearing me out wanted to stop, but the "circle of friends" kept egging him on. So your example is a perfect analogy. I got the bruises, the boy pounding on me was embarrassed, and the ones in the circle got off Scott free.
Good stuff guys. I dont praise Danville as a black man, but as a man. Sounds like many of us had parents taught us the values that this country was founded on. God bless America.
For only being 22, DSH has more wisdom than many on this board.
Thank you gentlemen for your kind words.. Forgive me for my rants lol I'm a sociology major so I love discussions like this
Thanks Bleeding Navy, you are well respected
I think I've watch that show 3 times.....they should all get s.....well, you know
Nicely said DHS....now slow it down...no need for you to be pulled over that many times! LOL! Sorry, my youngest son is your age and I've given him that "slow it down" speech more than once! Fatherly habit...
My parents told me that if I ever got a speeding ticket while on their insurance, I would have to get my own after that!
LOL!!! Hey I'm very grateful to say that even though I've been pulled over that many times that I've never had a speeding tickets. A couple of parking tickets, thanks to me not paying attention to the signs around VCU and Richmond City, but noting too serious lol.. But in all seriousness, thank you! I'm thankful that my hardcore Marine father taught me right from wrong. Used to think, why is this crazy cat on me so hard, but as I grow older and see the same people I wanted to hang with, that he wouldn't let me hang with, constantly in trouble and constantly being caught up in "ignorance"!
I chuckled and smiled when I read your post DSH. It reminded me of one of my proudest moments. Our daughter graduated from Christopher Newport and worked for the school while she attended and for about 7 years after. She was an assistant to the housing administrator or something silly like that. A few years after she graduated, in the middle of the day during the first week of school she called home. She said "I just wanted to thank you for making me think for myself, to be accountable for myself, etc. etc".
It seems that the steady stream of students that had housing problems because they made no effort to comply with the application procedures had taken their toll. She said, "If one more prissy, smart ass girl looks at me and says, oh whatever, I'm going across the counter and slap the crap out of her".
What a difference a day makes!
It seems that the steady stream of students that had housing problems because they made no effort to comply with the application procedures had taken their toll. She said, "If one more prissy, smart ass girl looks at me and says, oh whatever, I'm going across the counter and slap the crap out of her".
What a difference a day makes!
