Richmond Region Playoff Picture - Region 6A

[CRF4Dan]

28.4 Manchester
27.8 Oscar Smith
27.2 Western Branch
26.6 Thomas Dale
26.0 Ocean Lakes
23.6 Franklin Co.
22.7 James River
22.0 Floyd Kellam

As of today...
#8 Floyd Kellam at #1 Manchester
#7 James River at #2 Oscar Smith
#6 Franklin Co. at #3 Western Branch
#5 Ocean Lakes at #4 Thomas Dale

Manchester (4-1) Remaining Schedule
at Midlothian (5-0)
Cosby (1-5)
at Huguenot (0-4)
Monacan (3-2)

James River (5-2) Remaining Schedule
Monacan (3-2)
Clover Hill (2-4)
Midlothian (5-0)

Thomas Dale (4-1) Remaining Schedule
Hopewell (3-1)
at Petersburg (2-2)
Dinwiddie (4-0)

 

[757FridayNiteZ]

28.4 Manchester
27.8 Oscar Smith
27.2 Western Branch
26.6 Thomas Dale
26.0 Ocean Lakes
23.6 Franklin Co.
22.7 James River
22.0 Floyd Kellam

As of today...
#8 Floyd Kellam at #1 Manchester
#7 James River at #2 Oscar Smith
#6 Franklin Co. at #3 Western Branch
#5 Ocean Lakes at #4 Thomas Dale

Manchester (4-1) Remaining Schedule
at Midlothian (5-0)
Cosby (1-5)
at Huguenot (0-4)
Monacan (3-2)

James River (5-2) Remaining Schedule
Monacan (3-2)
Clover Hill (2-4)
Midlothian (5-0)

Thomas Dale (4-1) Remaining Schedule
Hopewell (3-1)
at Petersburg (2-2)
Dinwiddie (4-0)

VHSL mistakenly counted Oscar Smith's game..

VHSL Rules Handbook....
68-4-6 (2) When the Rating Scale is used to designate teams for championship playoffs,
only games between members of the Virginia High School League, other public schools and
non-public Virginia schools shall be counted.

 

[SV-Viking4]

They have always counted in the past. Yorktown play Wilson and gets points for the game.

 

[757FridayNiteZ]

They have always counted in the past. Yorktown play Wilson and gets points for the game.

Is Wilson a Private, out of state school?

 

[falcettik]

Is Wilson a Private, out of state school?

I believe that Wilson is Woodrow Wilson HS, part of DC Public Schools.

 

[SV-Viking4]

Falcettik beat me to it :

Woodrow Wilson is a public school in DC. They have played Yorktown for several years, and the points that were released from VHSL yesterday include points for Yorktown beating Wilson.

Jackson-Reed High School - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also Oscar Smith was credited with points (19) for losing to St John Bosco.

Many other examples, especially in the lower classes near the state border.

 

[SV-Viking4]

I think this is worded poorly, however there is a provision in the rule that seems to include out of state teams.

68-4-6 (2) When the Rating Scale is used to designate teams for championship playoff s,
only games between members of the Virginia High School League, other public schools and
non-public Virginia schools shall be counted. The following provision applies:
(1) It is the VHSL member school's responsibility to inform the VHSL office by May
1 of the following:
(a) Non-VHSL opponent's schedule.

(b) VHSL enrollment standards for classification will be applied so as to deter-
mine the awarding of bonus rating points to the VHSL member school.

68-4-6 (3) Penalty-Failure to comply with 68-4-6 (2) (1) and (2) shall result in the school
being fi ned as stated in 30-5-1.

PM 68-4-6 (3) FOOTBALL/Out-of-State Football Schedules (9-05)-For counting out-
of-state school's 10 games of an 11-game schedule, use the following criteria: (a) if a game
occurs before the fi rst contest date set by the VHSL, it is not counted; (b) if no game is played
before the fi rst contest date set by VHSL, do not count the 11th and subsequent games.
Note: Any state in which a VHSL member school plays that allows Endowment Games,
those schools may exchange a win in accordance with that state's rules which will be rec-
ognized in the VHSL football ratings, unless that out-of-state school should subsequently
exchange a loss with a VHSL member school for a win with another opponent, the VHSL
Rating Scale will recognize that out-of-state game exchanged for VHSL rating purposes
and not count the fi rst game of the season for the out-of-state opponent since that game
traditionally is outside of the VHSL playing dates.

 

[757FridayNiteZ]

The issue is that Private Schools that are out of State do not count for VHSLpower rankings. In-State Private Schools, Public Schools both in-State & Out of State both are counted for power rankings.. We have been through this before with DeMatha..

I reached out to the VHSL representative & this should get resolved soon. From the tone of her response, there must be a lot of adjustments they are dealing with for this 1st run of their report.

I have a lot of respect for people that have to keep track of this!

BTW, if I did it properly, Oscar Smith's updated number would be 30.000. They had 106 + 33 bonus points for 5 games.. Take away 10 points & the 9 bounus points = 120.00 then divide 4 games. We will see.

 

[SV-Viking4]

Thanks for the research,
and they need to hire Bounty13, just saying!

 

[757FridayNiteZ]

Agreed.. He must be an accountant. I like the results but I can't muster the passion to run the data for Reg A & B

 

[757FridayNiteZ]

Wellllll, somehow i was wrong.. The response from the VHSL below:

"I checked with the California Association and St. John Bosco is a full member of their association even though they are a private school – much like Liberty Christian Academy is for the Virginia High School League. We have included private schools who are members of their association in our interpretation 68-4-6."

So, as it stands today, Manchester would host the Regional Championship game! But I suspect these numbers will get tighter as the season progresses. Should be fun to track..