Salem game with Carroll County has now been cancelled
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Joaqin has turned into a Category 4 Hurricane quickly. School systems should be proactive on this and they are. Football is important, but safety above all!
Why would they cancel? Why not simply wait until Monday and see if it can be played? I don't understand that. Truthfully, why not wait until tomorrow and make a decision about tomorrow night? It's a weather forecast, not a guarantee! Like OC said, it's shifting further to the east with each update. Monday could easily be a fine weather day.
Maybe they didn't (I don't know.) I've read a schedule change one time that said Game vs. _______ cancelled, will be made up on _____________. Sometimes people have no clue or don't realize what the word "cancelled" means.
It could also mean that Carroll may not want to play this game - if given the opportunity not to.
It could also mean that Carroll may not want to play this game - if given the opportunity not to.
They are usually worse than Hidden Valley, but I'm not sure this year. I don't think it will matter much, CC wouldn't provide many points anyway. Avg taken from 9 games not 10. Might actually help Salem not to play them probably would just bring down our avg a little bit anyway, not sure?
This may jumping the gun a little bit---but I am concerned that this has more to do with last weeks score than weather----this game could have been played tonight-----or Monday------I hope I am wrong and If I am I will quickly admit it and ask for forgiveness--- but this is very very suspicious
Yeah, Phoebus out pointed us in 2013 primarily because they only played 9 games. Of course it's speculative if it would have mattered if they played 10 games.
Salem plays Blacksburg next Thursday because the VT game is Friday, I'd guess that's why they didn't push it to Monday. I'm curious why they didn't play it tonight. If they were cocky about the weather then that's dumb but if there was a feasibility issue with getting the teams together earlier then what can you do.
My question is what does this do to Salem's power points? It's not like CC was a 9 win team or anything but is this going to cost them a shot at a first-round bye or will beating Pulaski and PH later in the year be more than enough to secure that for Salem? Does not having CC on Salem's record actually improve their points?
My question is what does this do to Salem's power points? It's not like CC was a 9 win team or anything but is this going to cost them a shot at a first-round bye or will beating Pulaski and PH later in the year be more than enough to secure that for Salem? Does not having CC on Salem's record actually improve their points?
This may be another reason why Carroll County should not be on Salem's schedule
You are probably correct. But it may have been in the best interest of the kids at Carroll.
Should have been a forfeit on their part maybe, but either way this might help Salem's avg points 9 games instead of 10. They wouldn't provide many bonus points for wins anyway. Blacksburg has some good pieces. Gives us more time to heal up and keeps more guys from getting injured. Just trying to spin this positively.
Dinwiddie played Monday past. So playing tonight was not a real option. We may end up playing Monday, which may help us against this opponent, Matoaca. But, then we face Thomas Dale on next Friday. Just yucky choices no matter what. Probably the same crappy choices for Salem/CC.
I actually think it helps Hokie, Carroll would bring down our avg. They are 4a so 22 pts right plus 2 each for wins which might only be 3, so 28 total if I'm thinking correctly. Whereas Pulaski for example IF they win would be 22+ possibly 16 or 18 for wins, so 38 maybe 40 if my brain is working. PH is kind of a wash with JF anyway since they also played.
The 9 games things hurts your opponents usually way more than it hurts the team involved. Now, everyone who played Salem will lose the bonus points that the Spartans would have won from beating Carroll County, assuming that they had won.
Yes, the game was cancelled due to weather and not rescheduled for Monday because Salem has a game on Thursday...not enough time in between games. VT's game on Friday night is reason why
Salem plays on Thursday anyway.
Salem plays on Thursday anyway.
Another masterful dodge of a skilled opponent by Salem in a scheme to inch up the power points. You guys caught them, though. You better give the VHSL a call or they're gonna wonder where Salem's 60 point MOV this week was when they look at the scores.
The problem is Salem isn't going to be hurting but those teams that lost to Salem just lost an extra bonus point. The only good thing is IF they end up tied they get the tiebreaker because one of their opponents (Salem or Carroll Co.) only played a nine game schedule, but if they lose out on that tie by a point it would be a shame. Same situation going on down here where two teams in my district were discussing doing that which is ridiculous.
In 2012 we played on Wed at 4:00 after being out of school Fri, Mon, and Tuesday in the rain still after our game got canceled Thur during walkthrough and then played again on Saturday. It can be done if you WANT to do it.
What is wrong with moving the game from Thursday to Saturday? Salem already is accommodating VT fans by playing on Thursday, so why not move it to Saturday since there won't be a VT game? That makes too much sense though.
Good call salem and/or carroll co. adminastrations. I heard that after that half-inch of rain salem got, both side lines had wet spots. I here there may be some wind thursday night, keep us posted.
both games----Carroll and Blacksburg are away games for Salem The home teams Carroll and Blacksburg pretty much call the shots here
Ok...Well in that case Carroll Co. doesn't care about the teams on their schedule and what impact their decision may have, and Blacksburg admin doesn't see the big picture. Two easy fixes that require work, but hey why put any work into a situation. I guarantee that game isn't on Saturday because Sat is for college football or whatever lame excuse they can come up with.
Power points no matter what mean a lot on the vhsl system and to cheat a team out of the opportunity to gain on is ridiculous. We had the same situation with GW Danville and we tried everything under the sun to play the game they just didn't want to be accommodating. Damn band competition.
IMO, this was Carrol County's call. I also know both AD's must approve of changes. I understand the cancellation of Friday's game. Many were as a result of weather conditions. Now, the CC AD may have felt their field would not be playable on Saturday which is also understandable but I feel certain Salem would have offered their turf field for Saturday play. That certainly would have been playable and the Spartans would have been getting another game they were a virtual lock to win, even if they had to give most of the gate to CC.
I don't know the circumstances or possible scheduling conflicts associated with this decision of completely cancelling a game but it does seem odd that despite the weather, every other team in the State is managing to get this one in.
Without districts meaning anything is why things are getting cancelled instead of postponed....
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I don't have a problem with moving games - just the time needed for the body to recover from football games.
I don't have a problem with moving games - just the time needed for the body to recover from football games.
I know down here IR and Smith are playing on Saturday next weekend. Indian River will then play a makeup game with Nansemond River on Tuesday, then turn around and play again on Friday. That's three games within a weeks time.
Where did I say it's the right thing? just stating one thing that's happening here. For a part of the state that's so crazy about football some schools are coming up with enough excuses why not to play. I'm done talking about it good luck to the teams out west.
You implied in a post above that it can get done if you WANT to do it - I'm saying 2 days between games isn't enough, that's all. You made a fight where there wasn't one, kudos.
Given the concern for child safety and the need to get the games in, why couldn't Carroll County play host to Salem on Monday night then Blacksburg host Salem on Saturday.
Is that impossible?
Not impossible but not very sensable either....kids need a couple days after a game to recoup....that would leave two days practice for the saturday game....just stupid....just call these games off and go to next week's game....geez
Can you walk me through how playing a game on Saturday after a Monday contest is only two days of practice?
