Probably better to say potentially wrecked at this point until all appeals are exhausted. The VHSL and its committees have been known to cave to the power of the largest schools systems in the state and the make up of the committee that hears the appeal may have some bearing on the final outcome.24 annnnd 25. lol get wrecked
You referenced an 804 team maybe being next. This flurry of activity at this particular time begs the question as to what, if anything, has all of a sudden changed or maybe it is just a case of pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered as the actions have become more brazen. A 2 year ban has certainly got the attention of someone.Some other teams may be on the block as well.
Vhsl is scared of lawsuits. Look at the LCA situationYou referenced an 804 team maybe being next. This flurry of activity at this particular time begs the question as to what, if anything, has all of a sudden changed or maybe it is just a case of pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered as the actions have become more brazen. A 2 year ban has certainly got the attention of someone.
Who do you believe will be suing the VHSL and under what cause? I think the LCA situation is a different matter. LCA, under the Liberty umbrella, had massive resources that VHSL could not hope to match and, with that consideration and trial risk the VHSL opted to settle and get the best deal available. Likely proved to be the right decision for multiple reasons.Vhsl is scared of lawsuits. Look at the LCA situation
Doubt a disgruntled parent has resources and doubt there is anything there to entice an attorney, aside from them being the disgruntled part or a friend of the parent and that is before we discuss what the relief might be that they would seek.A disgruntled parent could easily try to orchestrate a frivolous suit against the school, the district, and vhsl.
It’s Northern VirginiaDoubt a disgruntled parent has resources and doubt there is anything there to entice an attorney, aside from them being the disgruntled part or a friend of the parent and that is before we discuss what the relief might be that they would seek.
I understand it's Northern Virginia but, I think you misjudge the amount of resources that might be required to scare the VHSL off a lawsuit, not to mention the top shelf legal talent that might be needed to scare them.It’s Northern Virginia
I think you are giving the VHSL way too much credit.I understand it's Northern Virginia but, I think you misjudge the amount of resources that might be required to scare the VHSL off a lawsuit, not to mention the top shelf legal talent that might be needed to scare them.
Let me explain it to you. The VHSL is not suit averse but, they are not stupid. You trotted out the LCA situation seemingly without understanding the nature of the suit. First, under the Liberty umbrella, LCA had plentiful financial resources to contest a suit if it went to trial, likely far more than most, if not any and all, disgruntled Northern Virginia parents. Second, to further demonstrate their commitment LCA engaged Winston & Strawn LLP an international law firm headquarted in Chicago with substantial litigation resources at their disposal. Finally, LCA was fighting for a long term business objective.I think you are giving the VHSL way more credit
They used kids from their PME rec team. Overton is one hell of a coach.Will Overton abandon Hayfield now, just like he did Freedom? Heaven forbid he actually had to coach instead of just recruiting all star teams
O how there’s so much more to the Hayfield thing than some may know. I work with someone close to the situation that I very seriously doubt would give false information. I’ll leave it at that considering this will take a back seat to the Patriot situation that will be front and center.Let me explain it to you. The VHSL is not suit averse but, they are not stupid. You trotted out the LCA situation seemingly without understanding the nature of the suit. First, under the Liberty umbrella, LCA had plentiful financial resources to contest a suit if it went to trial, likely far more than most, if not any and all, disgruntled Northern Virginia parents. Second, to further demonstrate their commitment LCA engaged Winston & Strawn LLP an international law firm headquarted in Chicago with substantial litigation resources at their disposal. Finally, LCA was fighting for a long term business objective.
I will ask you again, do you really see a disgruntled parent mounting a serious and substantial lawsuit and, if so, what is their objective/goal for relief? I have given the VHSL credit for recognizing the nature of threats and their best options to defend against those threats. Perhaps you can explain what you believe the VHSL has to be scared of in a suit surrounding this situation? You made a good call on the ban, not so much on the assessment of the VHSL legal peril, at least so far.
They obviously didn't do it the correct way. Lol. You don't just have that many kids transfer in one off-season. Rec teams may not have zones and he could go and recruit at the youth level, but high school does and if they were doing it illegally, then it doesn't matter.They used kids from their PME rec team. Overton is one hell of a coach.
This is corny honestly. The school district said in August that Hayfield was cleared and now after the whole season goes by now they’re ineligible?They obviously didn't do it the correct way. Lol. You don't just have that many kids transfer in one off-season. Rec teams may not have zones and he could go and recruit at the youth level, but high school does and if they were doing it illegally, then it doesn't matter.
I agree that the kids are getting short changed. But their parents knew that they were breaking the rules and just went along with it. From hearing from people closer to the situation, it seems like the school system said there wasn't any wrongdoing, because they were trying to cover their own tracks. But no way that many students moved into the Hayfield school zone and are paying tuition. Why not go to an average program and build them up into a contender, instead of recruiting. Ultimately, Overton not only screwed over Hayfield, but he did the same to Freedom as well.This is corny honestly. The school district said in August that Hayfield was cleared and now after the whole season goes by now they’re ineligible?
The kids are getting the short end of the stick. Just suspend DO rest of the year but don’t take what these kids worked for away from them.
I’m sorry, I can’t buy this for one reason. Freedom is 0-6. Way to build up a program the right way Daryl! You really built a thing that can stand the test of time. A mark of a great coach is the house being strong when they leave. If it totally crumbles, it was all about them, definitely not about establishing a foundation and coaching kids up the right way.They used kids from their PME rec team. Overton is one hell of a coach.
Agree, but the League NEVER said they were good to go, only their own internal investigation said that.Yeah I’ll continue to say this is corny to let the whole season play out then hit them with this after verifying that they were good to go at beginning of the year. Timing is everything and at the end of the day nobody suffers more than the kids
Great point! Suspend and then let the others continue into the playoffs which could still possibly happen. This was a recommendation.The ban is ok to me even though i hate the timing. But I would much rather them just rule out how ever many kids are ineligible and let the actual eligible kids plays. Suspend Overton also.
You’re right. With it being this late those wins could be vacated and they wouldn’t qualify point wise.I would be shocked if that happened. It would be precedent setting. All the teams over the years that had used an ineligible player had to forfeit those games. If they had chosen forfeiture as punishment then Hayfield making the playoffs would have not entered the equation for this year. They would be 0-10.
If they set this new precedent, what would happen in the future? Use a couple of ineligible players for 10 games, make the playoffs and sit those two players for the playoffs? You know that can’t be allowed.
As far as I know, the League has no authority to suspend, disallow, or otherwise disqualify a coach. That has to be done by their employer. If the League had that authority, a 10 year ban would certainly make others sit up and take notice.
Did I misread something above? Is something coming down the pike against Patriot?You’re right. With it being this late those wins could be vacated and they wouldn’t qualify point wise.
There was a hazing situation in the locker roomDid I misread something above? Is something coming down the pike against Patriot?
Thank you.There was a hazing situation in the locker room
Prince William schools investigating alleged assault in Patriot High School locker room
School spokeswoman Diana Gulotta told InsideNoVa on Thursday that the school district is aware of a video circulating on social media that "captures an incident of an alleged assault in the locker room at Patriot High School."www.insidenova.com