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Tragedy Strikes the UVA Football Team

BleedingNavy

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Good afternoon. Sad news out of Charlottesville. A former Varina and Petersburg football player has allegedly shot and killed three current UVA football players. The suspect in question was a 2018 member of the UVA team. I have attached a report for your review. Let's keep all parties in our prayers. https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/uva-football-players-killed-november-14-2022
he is in custody so the city can release the students from being sheltered. a couple of other students were shot but survived. Before we could digest this four students were killed on the campus of the Univ. of Idaho.
 
Something is missing
hope we learn the whole story soon
because the DA only asked for 2nd Degree Murder.
 
No premeditation. They were on a field trip. Who plans to shoot five people on a field trip. First degree murder is extremely hard to prove and with the evidence presented it is only second degree murder. The Commonwealth Attorney can always elevate the charges if the evidence dictates it.
 
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As sad and angry as i am over the life of the uva football players having theirlife taken from them i am even just as sad and angry that so much notoriety is being given to them. With not being a player on the football team is it any less of tragedy? I'm seeing everything centered around them being UVA football players and not focused on their families. To me it's sickening! I
m praying for their parents whom will never get over this tragedy and everyday will be a hellish nightmare for them.
 
No words. I pray that those 5 young men’s families find peace and strength. I don’t give a flying #$& about how the killer was a good person and how funny he was and the other crap they’ll say. He is a very disturbed and troubled kid. He took the lives of 3 people and affected many many more. UVA had multiple investigations on this kid. One student reported that he had a gun and he was under another investigation for hazing but they stated that the witnesses wouldn’t come forward. My biggest question and concern is why was he admitted to UVA when he had history of fighting and behavior problems? What educator at his high school really wrote a recommendation letter for him in good faith? Who ignored the signs? Senseless, senseless, senseless.
 
No words. I pray that those 5 young men’s families find peace and strength. I don’t give a flying #$& about how the killer was a good person and how funny he was and the other crap they’ll say. He is a very disturbed and troubled kid. He took the lives of 3 people and affected many many more. UVA had multiple investigations on this kid. One student reported that he had a gun and he was under another investigation for hazing but they stated that the witnesses wouldn’t come forward. My biggest question and concern is why was he admitted to UVA when he had history of fighting and behavior problems? What educator at his high school really wrote a recommendation letter for him in good faith? Who ignored the signs? Senseless, senseless, senseless.
He had been kicked off the football team and I think that could be what made him so mad
 
Kids of all races and ethnic backgrounds are walking our streets today who represent similar danger. Just watch the news there are shootings every night. The sad part is most kids think they need a gun to survive. We have devalued accountability and the family unit. Parents, educators, and police have no authority anymore.

Trust me on this one. UVA and other universities often accept risky students to meet mandates. Once a student athlete is enrolled schools can be punished if their graduation rate drops below a certain level. It's all about money and we all feed into it and accept it for what? A chance for a darn championship. We used to call this selling yourself to the devil. Now it's just business as usual. Nothing makes us cringe anymore.
 
No words. I pray that those 5 young men’s families find peace and strength. I don’t give a flying #$& about how the killer was a good person and how funny he was and the other crap they’ll say. He is a very disturbed and troubled kid. He took the lives of 3 people and affected many many more. UVA had multiple investigations on this kid. One student reported that he had a gun and he was under another investigation for hazing but they stated that the witnesses wouldn’t come forward. My biggest question and concern is why was he admitted to UVA when he had history of fighting and behavior problems? What educator at his high school really wrote a recommendation letter for him in good faith? Who ignored the signs? Senseless, senseless, senseless.
The situation is senseless, two words of caution though. First, probably best to make sure the information already out is accurate and that the context is complete. We have seen in recent times too many incidents where initial reporting is erroneous, incomplete and/or taken out of context. Second, you may want to dig a little deeper in to the young man's high school academic record and achievements. It may be possible that behavioral red flags were viewed more as a product of environment and the remainder of the record a case for giving him a chance in a better environment. I am not defending the young man or what he did, senseless violence is never acceptable. Nor am I trying to minimize the grief and pain of friends, family and loved ones for all those involved. My point is merely advocating restraint and consideration until information and story becomes clear as more often than not rushes to judgement usually end with getting at least some, if not much more, of the story wrong. There will be plenty of time to weigh in, and likely much more accurately, when more has been verified.
 
Some great points @cutnjump. There is obviously some extenuating circumstances. His father referenced his son being traumatized as a kid. He obviously academically earned his opportunity to attend UVA and had the intelligence to stay in school for at least four years. The problem I have is the how society continues to ignore the self destruction of our children. The chief of police acknowledge the red flags. Witnesses would not testify. Common problem in today's world.
 
The situation is senseless, two words of caution though. First, probably best to make sure the information already out is accurate and that the context is complete. We have seen in recent times too many incidents where initial reporting is erroneous, incomplete and/or taken out of context. Second, you may want to dig a little deeper in to the young man's high school academic record and achievements. It may be possible that behavioral red flags were viewed more as a product of environment and the remainder of the record a case for giving him a chance in a better environment. I am not defending the young man or what he did, senseless violence is never acceptable. Nor am I trying to minimize the grief and pain of friends, family and loved ones for all those involved. My point is merely advocating restraint and consideration until information and story becomes clear as more often than not rushes to judgement usually end with getting at least some, if not much more, of the story wrong. There will be plenty of time to weigh in, and likely much more accurately, when more has been verified.
Great points and make no mistake, I agree with you on waiting for the facts and the kid’s academic history/taking him out of that environment piece. Both @BleedingNavy and I work with kids who come from the same background as this young man. I’m all for giving every young person an opportunity but I’ll add this piece. When a young person has a history of violent behavior, as an educator it’s your professional duty to not to necessarily tell a university not to accept this young man, but give them a background on his behavior history, give an honest yet non bias and factual assessment of the student’s progress. That’s why most colleges ask for at least 3 teacher/counselor recommendation letters. There are a lot of what if’s at this point but I’ll say this. The education system has failed a lot of young people. It’s taken accountability out of the picture. You and Navy are wise men with integrity, more years and experience than me. I’ve been working in the school system for 6 years and seen the politics, negating serious offenses and slapping those kids on the wrist for those offenses. When they’re in the real world, the man/woman in the black robe give them a huge reality check.
 
For a teacher, you need administrators and division leadership to support necessary student discipline. I’ve taught 16 years and that’s what I would look for if looking for a teaching/coaching job. It’s out there if you can find it! But yeah, that doesn’t help those kids from other communities…
 
All too often anymore, people think the best way to settle a grievance is with a gun, when an actual ass whipping fistfight will do. I miss those days. I got picked on a lot as a kid. When I couldn't take it anymore, I jumped the guy picking on me (older kid in middle school) and while no blood was drawn, my fists let him know I'd had enough.
 
@cutnjump @BoKnowsSports and @EPJr . I saw a press conference today where the Commonwealth Attorney indicated one of the victims was shot while sleeping. This is a perfect example of evidence which could result in the charge(s) being elevated. Since the Death Penalty/Capital Crimes have been abolished in Virginia the best case scenario is aggravated murder. The charge could be elevated when the defendant appears before the Grand Jury and direct indictment's of more charges could be issued. Basically, they filed these charges to secure a warrant for his immediate arrest. Stay tuned.
 
Was there gay involvement? I mean this not to be discriminatory, as I am against anyone who discriminates. I know UVA does have high rates of homosexuality or bisexuality amongst the football team, and I am concerned this could have been a gay type argument where 1 might have been cheating on the other or something like that because it does happen some, and then violence occurs. Prayers for those who had lives innocently lost and their families, and hope the shooter gets life in prison with no parole for his evil.
OH!
what?
 
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@cutnjump @BoKnowsSports and @EPJr . I saw a press conference today where the Commonwealth Attorney indicated one of the victims was shot while sleeping. This is a perfect example of evidence which could result in the charge(s) being elevated. Since the Death Penalty/Capital Crimes have been abolished in Virginia the best case scenario is aggravated murder. The charge could be elevated when the defendant appears before the Grand Jury and direct indictment's of more charges could be issued. Basically, they filed these charges to secure a warrant for his immediate arrest. Stay tuned.
Devin Chandler was reportedly shot while sleeping. Transfer from WI went to Hough High. I've heard there were five victims. Tragic for all involved.
 
After all these years, I have changed my mind regarding the New England Patriots. They just lent UVA their plane to get the football team to all three funerals.
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After all these years, I have changed my mind regarding the New England Patriots. They just lent UVA their plane to get the football team to all three funerals.
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I never hated the Patriots. Just hated Bellicheck. Not a fan of Brady either. How anyone can put their career over their family is beyond me.
 
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I never hated the Patriots. Just hated Bellicheck. Not a fan of Brady either. How anyone can put their career over their family is beyond me.
I expect if truth ever comes out you may find out alot of other issues are involved including some recent tax legislation.
 
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