VDOE 11/17 Current 4A Enrollment

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  1. maroons1

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    MIDLOTHIAN HIGH 1,691
    DEEP CREEK HIGH 1,647
    WOODGROVE HIGH 1,629
    RIVERSIDE HIGH 1,593
    DOMINION HIGH 1,565
    PARK VIEW Sterling HIGH 1,521
    SHERANDO HIGH 1,511
    LOUDOUN COUNTY HIGH 1,506
    KING'S FORK HIGH 1,501
    MONACAN HIGH 1,473
    LOUISA COUNTY HIGH 1,468
    MILLBROOK HIGH 1,450
    HERITAGE Leesburg HIGH 1,450
    GREAT BRIDGE HIGH 1,449
    POWHATAN HIGH 1,446
    CHURCHLAND HIGH 1,418
    PATRICK HENRY Ashland HIGH 1,408
    WOODROW WILSON HIGH 1,393
    JEFFERSON FOREST HIGH 1,388
    E.C. GLASS HIGH 1,381
    DENBIGH HIGH 1,380
    HANOVER HIGH 1,379
    WARHILL HIGH 1,377
    LOUDOUN VALLEY HIGH 1,373
    GEORGE WASHINGTON HIGH 1,353
    HUGUENOT HIGH 1,349
    JAMESTOWN HIGH 1,329
    FAUQUIER HIGH 1,318
    JAMES WOOD HIGH 1,316
    JOHN HANDLEY HIGH 1,313
    PULASKI COUNTY SR. HIGH 1,311
    EASTERN VIEW HIGH 1,307
    KING GEORGE HIGH 1,303
    DINWIDDIE HIGH 1,300
    SALEM-Salem HIGH 1,292
    CHANCELLOR HIGH 1,277
    LIBERTY Bealton HIGH 1,274
    SMITHFIELD HIGH 1,261
    HERITAGE Newport News HIGH 1,252
    LAKE TAYLOR HIGH 1,238
    KETTLE RUN HIGH SCH 1,213
    BLACKSBURG HIGH 1,211
    AMHERST COUNTY HIGH 1,190
    GRAFTON HIGH 1,185
    COURTLAND HIGH 1,177
    CHARLOTTESVILLE HIGH 1,173
    CAROLINE HIGH 1,170
    LCA 1,164 not on website
    BASSETT HIGH 1,161
    LAFAYETTE HIGH 1,135
    WILLIAM BYRD HIGH 1,063
     
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  2. wikki

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    I believe Amherst is at 1290. Their enrollment has really dropped
     
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    Highest I've seen Salem in a very long time.

    What's the cutoff for 5A anyway, some of those numbers at the top are ridiculous.
     
  4. maroons1

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    Just double checked VDOE. Amherst is listed at 1190.
     
  5. maroons1

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    What's the cutoff for 5A anyway, some of those numbers at the top are ridiculous.

    I think the top 5 listed will be moving to 5A in the next cycle.
     
  6. DinwiddieProud

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    Would these be the numbers used for re-classing for the final two years of the cycle, 2019 and 2020?
     
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    No. They use average daily attendance.
     
  8. DinwiddieProud

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    Would the ADM from this past March be the number used? I seem to remember that there is a year plus lag time?

    What is the VHSL criteria/policy for a mid 4 year cycle re-classification?
     
  9. blackknight_pride

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    We should be 3 lol, but I'm not sure how I'd feel about that.
     
  10. DinwiddieProud

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    Maroons, do we know the methodology that VDOE uses to determine these enrollment numbers? I assume there is some variance in the way the two different enrollment numbers are compiled?

    Aren't the March ADM numbers to official number used by the Commonwealth to determine the amount of money paid to a locality?

    Just FYI, there is nothing nefarious in my questions, I'm just curious. Thank you.
     
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    The VHSL does use March ADM. Beyond that, I have no clue. These numbers will give you a good idea what to expect when they reclassify for the next cycle.
     
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    That's what everyone thought with the last cycle...we shall see.
     
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    Salem must be seeing the benefits of that quality recruiting going on.
     
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    We're trying to compete with the IMG Academy for recruits, but it's not going well. I saw a stat that they have 18 kids that are either 4 or 5 ☆. Everyone on their roster has D1 scholarship offers.
     
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    Between them and grayson in Ga it is unreal.
     
  16. DinwiddieProud

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    Last I heard Mike, was that Salem was sending their rejects to IMG! If you didn't have an NFL offer, you were sent packing.

    Seriously, did you see where that 25 year old kid played a year of HS basketball? Fooled the school into believing he was a homeless refuge from New Orleans. A former coach saw his highlights, and dropped the dime on him.
     
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    Yeah I saw that DP, that's crazy!
     
  18. DinwiddieProud

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    The report I saw didn't address the issue of it affecting their victories. A lot we don't know, but on the surface it doesn't look like the school administration looked real hard to verify anything. I'm always split about any punishment hurting the innocent kids.
     
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    I wonder if he got the idea from Friday Night Lights where the booster Buddy Garrity brought in Hurricane Katrina refuge "Voodoo" Tatum to play quarterback.
     
  20. VolNation85

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    I think Grayson is even more impressive of a program than IMG. Grayson is a public school with zoning restrictions, which means that all of their talent is within that one zone! Unbelievable! I seen where Grayson has 12 guys in the 2019 class alone that have already committed to play FBS football. There are even more uncommitted or underclassmen.
     
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    Not to get too far off topic... but just curious how y’all like a 6-class system in VA? Good or bad? Been a lot of debate here in NC whether we should expand to 5 or 6, or stay at 4. Personally I think we need to expand, because subdividing each class in the playoffs, to me, is incredibly stupid.
     
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    I think it depends on the number of schools in the state or even state populations. I don't like 6 because it causes too many scheduling problems. Just don't like it at all. Even in individual sports like wrestling get watered down too much . I think 5 would be nice for team athletics. Having a small classification for very small schools is good so they can compete with appropriate smaller schools. Having a large school classification is good for the opposite end. The three remaining classifications in the middle should then be divided up equally. I feel this would create good competition and could reduce scheduling conflicts.
     
  23. otnorot

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    Six classes is fine for football, sucks for everything else.

    For enrollment keep in mind that the VHSL numbers for a lot of schools will differ from the VDOE numbers because they also include kids that attend magnet or alternative schools without athletic programs but are eligible to play sports at their zoned school.
     
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    Heard a rumor down here Lafayette may be dropping back to 3a again. At second smallest 4a and 500 students than the largest 4a may be some truth to it.
     
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    N.C. is perfectly fine! I agree with otnorot, 6 classifications is fine in football in VA, terrible for the rest of the sports. VA was the perfectly fine when it used the Single A, Double A and Triple A module. They could break it down to 6 champs in football, but there should only be 1 champ in other sports, meaning Single A gets a champ, Double A gets a champ, and Triple A gets a champ, in basketball, baseball, softball, soccer, etc like old times. When the VHSL made this new format, it took away a lot of the competitiveness here in VA.
     
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    The biggest issue in NC is the split classifications when it comes to playoffs... 1A/1AA, 2A/AA, 3A/3AA, 4A/4AA.... creates a largely watered down playoff field, especially in 1A and 4A (both A and AA). Especially when they use a 20/30/30/20 format (20% of football schools in 1A, 30% in 2A and 3A, and 20% in 4A). Mooresville for example... 4 wins all year and somehow made the playoffs. In 1A I think there was some 2 and 3 Win teams that got in. It’s the subdivision when the playoffs start that cause all the debate here.
     
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    From reading the prepgridion boards, Grayson may get their fair share of in-state transfers. They are loaded every year, but a couple of other Ga schools might match them in talent this year, including Marietta (led by Oscar Smith's old coach).

     
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    I think Lafayette is going to drop back down to 3A.
     
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    I'm glad Dinwiddie is solidly in the middle of 4a. It would take a drastic change in the economy of Dinwiddie for us to rise or drop enough students to affect our status. Total school enrollment for Dinwiddie has trended down in the last has few years, but I don't believe it represents a pattern. The Dinwiddie economy is healthy, without growing ridiculously fast. Same with housing. Same with new business and industry. Just a steady, measured growth that doesn't cause local government spending to go crazy.

    If asked for a long term prediction, I can't envision Dinwiddie ever dropping to 3a, and I would be shocked if we were close to 5a in 10 years.

    I know Lafayette is just above the 3a cut line, so it doesn't take much to cause a change. But, why the decline at Lafayette? How about the other two high schools in James City County?
     
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    The decline is due to 3 high schools in Williamsburg and the districting lines that just resulted in fewer students at Lafayette. Notice that Jamestown and Warhill both have 200 students more than Lafayette. May be that both schools are much newer in construction and therefore desirable to be at. Unless of course you are looking for a football scholarship. Haven’t heard of any new high school redistricting here just middle school as a brand new one just opened.
     
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    Wait...isn't Woodgrove already Class 5?
     
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    HUH???
     
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    No
     
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    They were C4 last year just missing out on the playoffs. They played (3) C5 schools in Massaponax, Broad Run, and Tuscarora. Region C only took 6 playoff teams causing them to miss out at 6-4.
     
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    My bad guys! They should move up anyways lol
     
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    Lol anybody that doesn’t clear the way for Charlottesville right
     
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    Hahaha you're right. We should move down IMO
     

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