VHSL Power Points

[2027]

2A West



Appomattox 2A - 24.50000
Union 2A - 23.00000
Giles 2A - 22.25000
Glenvar 2A -22.00000
Buckingham Co. - 19.00000
Richlands 2A - 19.00000
Grundy 2A - 19.00000
Grayson County 2A - 18.80000
James River (B) 2A - 17.60000
Lee 2A - 17.40000
Gretna 2A - 17.20000
Dan River 2A - 16.60000
Central-Wise 2A -16.20000
Virginia 2A - 16.00000
Martinsville 2A - 15.00000
Randolph-Henry 2A - 12.80000
Graham 2A - 12.75000
Chatham 2A - 12.50000
Floyd Co. 2A - 12.40000
Lebanon 2A - 11.80000
Ridgeview 2A - 11.60000
Gate City 2A - 11.00000

 

[2027]

2 A East



Buffalo Gap 2A - 21.00000
Stuarts Draft 2A - 19.25000
Clarke Co. 2A - 18.75000
Strasburg 2A - 18.75000
Greensville 2A - 17.00000
Brunswick 2A - 16.50000
Goochland 2A - 16.40000
Amelia Co. 2A - 15.50000
Washington & Lee 2A -15.25000
Mason, George 2A - 15.00000
King William 2A - 14.50000
Lee, R.E. (St) 2A - 14.20000
Bruton 2A - 14.00000
Nottoway 2A - 13.25000
Arcadia 2A - 12.80000
Prince Edward 2A - 12.40000
Bluestone 2A - 12.25000
Central (W) 2A - 12.25000
Wilson Memorial 2A - 12.25000
East Rockingham 2A - 11.75000
Madison County 2A - 11.25000
Nandua 2A - 11.20000
Nelson County 2A - 10.60000

 

[piz hokies]

How is FUMA a 2A school? They have players from all over America, not just in the local area, as well as a boarding school. Once the VHSL decided to allow private schools into the VHSL, they made a statement about boarding schools. Did it say that they are not allowed to participate? Or was something changed again.

Rod anyway you can find out the info on that?

 

[BCKnights]

They are not

 

[BCKnights]

Is it me or do the East look dramatically weaker then the West?

 

[VaPrepsRod]

How is FUMA a 2A school? They have players from all over America, not just in the local area, as well as a boarding school. Once the VHSL decided to allow private schools into the VHSL, they made a statement about boarding schools. Did it say that they are not allowed to participate? Or was something changed again.

Rod anyway you can find out the info on that?

I'm not sure that I am clear with what you are asking.

Fork Union is not a member of the VHSL nor will they be participating in any postseason games.

 

[G-DOG2]

The question has to do with FUMA being rated as a 2A team for power points. They play in the top division for private schools. FUMA is a boarding school and is ineligible to be a part of VHSL so why would playing them count at all towards power points?

 

[gtownfencecrew]

Not that they'll make the playoffs, but where's Page County? They're a 2A East team. They'll probably be last on the 2A East list. Anyone else missing?

 

[Keith_Stone33]

Is it me or do the East look dramatically weaker then the West?

Not just you. It is way weaker. Honestly, the top 2 teams in 1A East would probably be the best two teams in 2A East if they were placed there.

 

[G-DOG2]

Essex would be a top two team in 2A West as well, not just 2A East.

 

[piz hokies]

I'm not sure that I am clear with what you are asking.

Fork Union is not a member of the VHSL nor will they be participating in any postseason games.

If that is true, then how does that affect a VHSL school? It should not. If they are not a member and did not join VHSL, then their games against public VHSL schools, does not count like it always has, right?

 

[Hampton Roads 6]

When I look at East/West breakdown, it leads me to believe there is a shortage of maps within the VHSL. Appomattox, Buckingham, and Randoplh Henry in West and schools near WVA border in the East.

 

[G-DOG2]

My understanding was that private schools that are eligible to join the VHSL but do not, those games count for power points with multipliers. However, FUMA is not eligible (boarding school), so they should not count towards power points. If they do, there should be a BIG multiplier added to their equation. There is a reason why they play in the top division for private schools and it has nothing to do with enrollment.......

 

[VaPrepsRod]

The question has to do with FUMA being rated as a 2A team for power points. They play in the top division for private schools. FUMA is a boarding school and is ineligible to be a part of VHSL so why would playing them count at all towards power points?

Playing FUMA would count towards power points just like playing any other school who is not eligible to join the VHSL like teams from West Virginia, Tennessee and Kentucky.

The rule as written is...

68-4-6 (2) When the Rating Scale is used to designate teams for championship playoffs, only games between members of the Virginia High School League, other public schools and non-public Virginia schools shall be counted.

Fork Union is a non-public Virginia school, therefore, playing them counts

If that is true, then how does that affect a VHSL school? It should not. If they are not a member and did not join VHSL, then their games against public VHSL schools, does not count like it always has, right?

A VHSL school is only affected in their power points (see above). A school does not have to be eligible to join the VHSL in order to be included in the power points system.

Being a boarding school only affects them (can't join the VHSL). There is no rule in place that teams cannot play them.

 

[G-DOG2]

I guess my question is, why can't they join? Because they are a boarding school? If that is the case, why are they treated the same as a school that does not have boarding when it comes to power points. Is it because they recruit and have players from other states? In my opinion, either they should not count or another multiplier should be used. You can look at their schedule and see the quality of opponents and see that they are not playing a 2A level schedule. The rule needs to be examined and adjusted.

 

[VaPrepsRod]

I guess my question is, why can't they join? Because they are a boarding school?

I believe that to be the exact case.

If that is the case, why are they treated the same as a school that does not have boarding when it comes to power points. Is it because they recruit and have players from other states?

I don't know if it has anything to do with recruiting per se, but I would assume that the sheer numbers of out-of-state possibilities (thus expanding their zone without a parental move) would be the reason given. Have never heard VHSL directly comment other than the "no boarding schools" rule.

In my opinion, either they should not count or another multiplier should be used. You can look at their schedule and see the quality of opponents and see that they are not playing a 2A level schedule. The rule needs to be examined and adjusted.

I would agree that a multiplier should be put into effect. My only concern there would be VHSL schools potentially scheduling the bad privates and picking up more points then they should. Admittedly, that's a minor bit in the entire structure and likely wouldn't happen enough to be statistically have a big impact.

 

[bulldog1150]

Here is the rub, if FUMA were part of the VHSL, like LCA, they would be a 6A school because they have students from multiple school districts, states, & countries for that matter. Therefore, if a vhsl school plays them, they should get 6A points.

 

[Hampton Roads 6]

How many students grades -12 does FUMA have ?

 

[VaPrepsRod]

Here is the rub, if FUMA were part of the VHSL, like LCA, they would be a 6A school because they have students from multiple school districts, states, & countries for that matter. Therefore, if a vhsl school plays them, they should get 6A points.

I don't know the exact numbers but, I agree that a multiplier should be involved, if it wasn't to begin with.

 

[piz hokies]

Playing FUMA would count towards power points just like playing any other school who is not eligible to join the VHSL like teams from West Virginia, Tennessee and Kentucky.

The rule as written is...

68-4-6 (2) When the Rating Scale is used to designate teams for championship playoffs, only games between members of the Virginia High School League, other public schools and non-public Virginia schools shall be counted.

Fork Union is a non-public Virginia school, therefore, playing them counts



A VHSL school is only affected in their power points (see above). A school does not have to be eligible to join the VHSL in order to be included in the power points system.

Being a boarding school only affects them (can't join the VHSL). There is no rule in place that teams cannot play them.

Thank you for answering my questions and others. If the private schools who join VHSL, and have 5th year (redshirt) players that are grandfathered in and can play, there also needs be a grandfather clause for schools who scheduled a private school before all of the new rules came about. Had this info come out during the scheduling cycle process, many teams would have scheduled differently. VHSL needs to look into that. This will affect power points as the season progresses.

Thank you for looking into these questions for us.

 

[piz hokies]

How many students grades -12 does FUMA have ?

Not sure their numbers... but they have players from all around Virginia, then other states, and countries. Sounds like they should have a nice multiplier based on what VHSL set for private schools. Somehow, VHSL set FUMA in the 2A class. But based on their policies, they should have a high multiplier and should be in the 5A or 6A level, not 2A.

If LCA is placed in 4A based on their multiplier, why are they the only private school who follows what the policies state? Should be the same for all private schools (they are allowed to recruit and redshirt their players). Out-of-state public schools are different than in-state private schools, they are able to fall into the 1A-6A class levels correctly.

 

[G-DOG2]

I have read that FUMA has between 300 and 350 average for upper school each year. All boy school should have a multiplier of 2 and having players from whole state according to the rules would be a 1.5 multiplier. If you use the average of 325, the multipliers would send their number to 975. I do not believe that being a boarding school adds any multiplier and it should.... If the school is not eligible due to boarding, VHSL must think it is an advantage.......

 

[maroons1]

I agree. FUMA should be counted as a 3A school.

 

[G-DOG2]

At minimum a 3A.... I think another multiplier because of out of state enrollment along with being a boarding school which obviously VHSL thinks is an advantage in which it is. People who do not follow FUMA do not realize the strength of their schedule. Their current ranked opponents read like this.....

Goochland - 127th VA
Georgetown Prep - 35th Maryland
Bishop O'connell - 81st VA
Charlotte Latin - 22nd NC
Paul VI - 222nd VA
St. Christophers - 17th VA
Liberty Christian - 87th
Collegiate - 159th VA (down year for them)
Benedictine - 21st VA
Woodberry Forest - 6th VA

Name any 2A school with a schedule that includes 4 top 25 Virginia schools on the schedule and a top 25 team from NC? Top 50 team from MD. No way FUMA should be a 2A rated school period.....

 

[VaPrepsRod]

Oooof! Some of those rankings for the VA schools.

Ooooooffffff!!

I have a ton of respect for coach Clint Alexander and the program at Woodberry Forest but 6th best in VA?

 

[maroons1]

This is why I hate the VHSL Power Ratings. I think the VHSL should dump it, and replace it with maxpreps. I think they have the best computer rankings for Virginia high school football because it includes out of state and private schools.

 

[G-DOG2]

I went with Max Preps ranking's. It was just to make a point. Kind of gives a rough idea that FUMA does not play a 2A schedule.....

 

[gladiators01]

Looks like the VHSL has Greensville beating Amelia week 2. Should be the other way around, Amelia won 38-22. Greensville(2-2) and Amelia(3-1)

 

[77raider]

Noticed that when it came out. Good to stay under the radar until they're ready to make a statement. !

 

[Keith_Stone33]

They wont be under the radar long, they are looking like the favorite from the east at the moment

 

[piz hokies]

They wont be under the radar long, they are looking like the favorite from the east at the moment

They still have to play Buckingham, Lunenburg, and Nottoway in the JRD and each one of those game will be tough. Not to mention Randolph-Henry has improved each week. Only loss was to Goochland and a key win against Brunswick.

 

[Keith_Stone33]

They still have to play Buckingham, Lunenburg, and Nottoway in the JRD and each one of those game will be tough. Not to mention Randolph-Henry has improved each week. Only loss was to Goochland and a key win against Brunswick.

They'll certainly be tested. I should have said "a" favorite, not "the" favorite

 

[77raider]

With a strong passing game working well, it should open up the running game. Harris is a very good back that can give the offense an extra threat.

 

[white&blue]

Oooof! Some of those rankings for the VA schools.

Ooooooffffff!!

I have a ton of respect for coach Clint Alexander and the program at Woodberry Forest but 6th best in VA?

Woodberry is REALLY good this year. Have you seen them play? If not, make trip up to Madison County and watch them...their facilities are fantastic by the way.