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Hayfield

Yall are some sad bitter individuals. Old men sitting around gossiping about information that doesn't pertain to you or your programs. So we go act like Dinwiddie ain't getting no kids from the Petersburg or Brunswick surrounding county area??? Stop it.
It is not really gossip when discussing publicly available reports backed with evidence. You throw around a lot of allegations but, if you have proof, why not make a public complaint? When people call something racist, sexist, whatever, be it in sports, politics, or other they are more often than not looking to deflect because they cannot dispute the facts, evidence and/or results in a more relevant manner.

Hayfield

What does this have to with Coach Mills and Dinwiddie? @Bucktown434 I only responded to "your" analogy and agreed with you. I even went as far as saying "we" are all guilty. Many of the people who have responded to this posts are not "old white men", several are young intelligent black men who genuinely care about kids. What exactly is your agenda sir? Sounds oddly familiar?????
My agenda is you keep running your mouth on here about other programs, when your grass ain't cut. Keep you mouth shut and stop gossiping like women on these blogs. That's my point!
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Hayfield

Bleeding Navy- You need to stop bro! So if we decided to do a extensive deep dive journalistic approach on Billy Mills and Dinwiddie residents over the last 10 years, we will see that ALL them kids that came through that program was born and raised in Dinwiddie County???? I'm talking about never left the Petersburg, Colonial Heights, Prince George, Brunswick, South Hill jurisdictions to live with a grandmother, aunt, uncle, cousin, or friend to play football???? Stop it! My daddy always said. "The buzzards fly high, but they got to come down LOW TO EAT". Oh and why you ain't doing all this talking about Liberty Christian Academy and the Great Frank Rocco? These people are bringing in kids from North Carolina and New York. It's a difference. They got that million dollar establishment to fight the VHSL. That's the difference. It's called corruption. But you know what I'm not going to dive into all that on here. I've addressed the Elephant in the room, and I know deep down I have stirred alot of yall consciouses on here.
What does this have to with Coach Mills and Dinwiddie? @Bucktown434 I only responded to "your" analogy and agreed with you. I even went as far as saying "we" are all guilty. Many of the people who have responded to this posts are not "old white men", several are young intelligent black men who genuinely care about kids. What exactly is your agenda sir? Sounds oddly familiar?????

Hayfield

@Bucktown434, using the movie New Jack City and Nino Brown is an interesting analogy.

Just like in the movie based on a true story (Chambers brother, NYC) those modernly dressed and groomed (I could care less what they look like) assistants you speak of are Overton's minions who knowingly violate the rules to seek fame and fortune while oppressing others.

If my memory of the movie and sociology class are correct Nino Brown takes over a whole apartment complex to do business and make bank during the "Crack Wars". Two African American cops go under cover to take him out, because they detest what he is doing to The good people who reside there. He is eventually arrested and the system that you refer to as oppressive slaps Brown on the wrist with a one year jail sentence for crimes much more deserving of a life sentence. In the end and "old man" will not accept the plea, because he knows history will repeat itself and shoots Brown.

The sociology theory/lesson is simple. Get yours at all cost. Yes, some may benefit from your enterprise, while others suffer. Instead of using your God given abilities to benefit others by doing things right, you take short cuts and attempt to circumvent the system. Yes, for a variety of reasons others often look the other way. Eventually, there are those who strive to do right and they stand up. The snitches get stitches culture destroys communities and some finally get fed up and talk. The "system" continues this festering either by failing to hold people accountable or not providing the resources to prevent recidivism. All the while they're victims are left to fend for themselves.

@Bucktown434, I believe you hit a home run with your analogy, but this is not a black and white issue. We are all guilty of wanting to get ours and the lesson noted above surely applies to our current topic. The "hustle" has been going on for hundreds of years. The only differences are the names and faces have changed.
Bleeding Navy- You need to stop bro! So if we decided to do a extensive deep dive journalistic approach on Billy Mills and Dinwiddie residents over the last 10 years, we will see that ALL them kids that came through that program was born and raised in Dinwiddie County???? I'm talking about never left the Petersburg, Colonial Heights, Prince George, Brunswick, South Hill jurisdictions to live with a grandmother, aunt, uncle, cousin, or friend to play football???? Stop it! My daddy always said. "The buzzards fly high, but they got to come down LOW TO EAT". Oh and why you ain't doing all this talking about Liberty Christian Academy and the Great Frank Rocco? These people are bringing in kids from North Carolina and New York. It's a difference. They got that million dollar establishment to fight the VHSL. That's the difference. It's called corruption. But you know what I'm not going to dive into all that on here. I've addressed the Elephant in the room, and I know deep down I have stirred alot of yall consciouses on here.

Hayfield

Totally off topic but why would I go to Hayfield if I lived in King George. Understand PME because they are good but high school ?? Makes no sense. Just a thought lol
Imagine getting called out by the VHSL (an org that essentially doesn’t call out ANYBODY), and the reaction is to pretend it’s a racism issue. I think DO is probably a good coach who invests his time and energy and does right by HIS players. The issue is that in a public school setting in Fairfax County, you don’t get to just import YOUR youth league PME players from King George, Fredericksburg, Stafford, Prince William and then act like breaking the rules doesn’t matter. Public schools aren’t PME. You have a greater duty to serve that student body. DO has no interest in doing that.

No amount of word salad or whataboutism can justify the wrong-doing. Then to play victim as if YOU aren’t the one who inflicted this harm on the impacted kids, that’s just plain old gaslighting. And smart people have called it out correctly. Pay special attention to the flailing around and ad hominem attacks from these losers. They have no ethical high ground so they just spray bullets at everyone they can.

When you leave a program in total shambles, that tells me all I need to know about a coach. To completely gut a team to the point they go from undefeated champs to barely finishing a six game season, look inward. It’s easy to throw blame at poor admin at Freedom and Prince William, but what kind of man does what he did to that program? A selfish one, that’s who. He didn’t leave those kids at freedom. He straight up stole from them.

Hayfield

@Bucktown434, using the movie New Jack City and Nino Brown is an interesting analogy.

Just like in the movie based on a true story (Chambers brother, NYC) those modernly dressed and groomed (I could care less what they look like) assistants you speak of are Overton's minions who knowingly violate the rules to seek fame and fortune while oppressing others.

If my memory of the movie and sociology class are correct Nino Brown takes over a whole apartment complex to do business and make bank during the "Crack Wars". Two African American cops go under cover to take him out, because they detest what he is doing to The good people who reside there. He is eventually arrested and the system that you refer to as oppressive slaps Brown on the wrist with a one year jail sentence for crimes much more deserving of a life sentence. In the end and "old man" will not accept the plea, because he knows history will repeat itself and shoots Brown.

The sociology theory/lesson is simple. Get yours at all cost. Yes, some may benefit from your enterprise, while others suffer. Instead of using your God given abilities to benefit others by doing things right, you take short cuts and attempt to circumvent the system. Yes, for a variety of reasons others often look the other way. Eventually, there are those who strive to do right and they stand up. The snitches get stitches culture destroys communities and some finally get fed up and talk. The "system" continues this festering either by failing to hold people accountable or not providing the resources to prevent recidivism. All the while they're victims are left to fend for themselves.

@Bucktown434, I believe you hit a home run with your analogy, but this is not a black and white issue. We are all guilty of wanting to get ours and the lesson noted above surely applies to our current topic. The "hustle" has been going on for hundreds of years. The only differences are the names and faces have changed.

Hayfield

Imagine getting called out by the VHSL (an org that essentially doesn’t call out ANYBODY), and the reaction is to pretend it’s a racism issue. I think DO is probably a good coach who invests his time and energy and does right by HIS players. The issue is that in a public school setting in Fairfax County, you don’t get to just import YOUR youth league PME players from King George, Fredericksburg, Stafford, Prince William and then act like breaking the rules doesn’t matter. Public schools aren’t PME. You have a greater duty to serve that student body. DO has no interest in doing that.

No amount of word salad or whataboutism can justify the wrong-doing. Then to play victim as if YOU aren’t the one who inflicted this harm on the impacted kids, that’s just plain old gaslighting. And smart people have called it out correctly. Pay special attention to the flailing around and ad hominem attacks from these losers. They have no ethical high ground so they just spray bullets at everyone they can.

When you leave a program in total shambles, that tells me all I need to know about a coach. To completely gut a team to the point they go from undefeated champs to barely finishing a six game season, look inward. It’s easy to throw blame at poor admin at Freedom and Prince William, but what kind of man does what he did to that program? A selfish one, that’s who. He didn’t leave those kids at freedom. He straight up stole from them.
Very, very well said, WP02alum. This summarizes the issues perfectly and anyone who does not understand this needs to look at themselves if they defend these activities.

Pick em Week 11

Smithfield @ Tabb
Henrico @ Atlee
Spotsylvania @ Culpeper Co
Midlothian (C5) @ LC Bird (C5)
Menchville (C5) @ Bethel (C5) (Thur)
Colonial Forge (C6) @ N Stafford (C6)
Stafford (C6) @ Mountain View (C6)
York (C3) @ Grafton (C3)
Norview (C5) @ Lake Taylor (C3)
Poquoson (C2) @ Lafayette (C3) (Thur)
Courtland @ Eastern View*
Matoaca @ Dinwiddie*

Sherando @ Handley*
LCA @ Jefferson Forest*
Loudoun Valley @ Woodgrove
Rustburg @ EC Glass
Millbrook @ James Wood
Battlefield
(C6) @ Patriot (C6)
Northside (C3) @ William Byrd (C3)
Fauquier (C3) @ Meridian (C3)
Turner Ashby (C3) @ Spotswood (C3)
William Monroe (C3) @ Rockbridge Co (C3)
Strasburg (C2) @ Central Woodstock (C2)
Stuart's Draft (C2) @ Wilson Memorial (C2)

Hayfield

Its been a individual or booster on here from Highland Springs program talking about using his million dollar lawyers to investigate and shut TF down Darryl Overton since the summer. The man don't even hide it! A real live personal vendetta. Some of yall better chill on here (DinwiddieProud), because if I'm DO, I'm going out like Nino Brown did in the movie New Jack City lol.
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Hayfield

Once again nobody is justifying anything DO did or how he did it. I'm simply talking about the underlying issue, and that's the blatant disdain and targeting for towards him and his coaching staff as black men, who don't fit the "old school good old boy ball coach" appeal in Northern Virginia. Especially Fairfax County! Thees guys wear Jordan's, Fitted caps, Dreadlocks, Jewelry, Tattoos, athletic wear, they have swag, charisma, spunk, and that attracts talent and appeasement to the Top Tier athletes, and they coach at a high level. It's also called "Covert Racism", because the same men smile in their face, but spew hate and jealousy on these blogs. I'm not go sugar coat it. I'm calling yall out! It's needs to be talked about in 2024. Especially when yall get on here at talking about "tradition ", and take this high road using jargon like "integrity ".

Sherando vs John Handley

I have seen both teams a couple times. They are both good but my gut feeling is that Handley will be too much for Sherando.

The two most dynamic players are on Handley and the DL/OL headed to Wake Forest is an incredible player. The QB from Handley will get loose and when he does it is a serious problem for defenses.

Again, just one old guys opinion but I see Handley winning a 35-21 type game.
I could definitely see that happening.

Hayfield

Hayfield was too obvious, flat out. This happens everywhere, sure, but most places it's a kid or three a season not an entire starting lineup. The school Overton left, where they won multiple titles and games in a row, couldn't play ten games this season because there weren't enough upperclassmen. If he leaves and takes maybe 4-6 guys then sure, that's not legal but nobody's gonna end up drawing a stink over it but this isn't college and kids can't just enter the portal en masse to follow a coach. SMU got the death penalty not because they were cheating but the way they were doing so, flaunting it to the world. You wanna cheat in sports you keep your head down and make small moves because a little ripple in the pond might just be the wind but a big ripple is where that monster bass lives and someone's gonna go catch it.
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