I agree 100% both east and west should play same format. I don't know what happened that the west did not implement the same format. But it had to be the member schools AD and or principals who made the decision to change, or in this situation not make a change. They either did not think it through or did not think the east having less games and a buy would be an advantage. Does anyone know if the east and west communicate with each other in these matters? Is it possible the west did not know what the east was doing?
12 or 16?
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I remember the days when folks were crying because their 9-1 ,8-2, or 7-3 teams did not get in the playoffs. I also remember when schools with 175 students played schools with 700 students in the same districts with no allowances given for school size. My goodness, leave the current system alone, and give all these kids a chance of their dream to come true. If you don't like the system, don't go to the games, or move to another state.
I love this set up so what a team has to travel and most likely going to get steam rolled, the kids don't mind and the coaches get to coach them another week. Its the upper classes that don't like it, but teams make playoffs that didn't before, take Highland Springs - Carina when they used to play last game of season you won or you went home and with one loss that's crazy.
Earlier today I posted a comment in which I said that I did not really mind there being 12 teams instead of the 16 that we had gotten used to. But it occurred to me that, even with just 12, the playoffs will still be a five-week affair including the state championship weekend. So if they are going to have a five-week system anyway, then there might as well be 16 teams playing on that first weekend instead of just 12.
Like I said before, giving regions autonomy in some regard was a concession they had to make or there would have been zero change. It's called politics and compromise. System is better than before, the VHSL would have loved to mandate it for every region, district, conference etc. but had to concede some items to regions, conferences, and districts b/c of individual local concerns. I guess the federal government should mandate every little item for every state.....
1A is a different animal than most.... you can't tell me you can look at this list and say there any team over 25 isn't going to get humiliated on the field vs. the top 8. Sometimes common sense goes a long way.
# Team State
Rating W L PCT PF PA %PTS SOS RPI Div Conf Region Group OLD REGION OLD DISTRICT STUD Area Code
1 Riverheads 70.0 5 0 1.000 195 59 0.77 50.1 0.682 1 44 1A East A D-2 Eastern Shenandoah 475 540
2 Essex 68.0 4 1 0.800 159 100 0.61 47.7 0.590 1 43 1A East A D-2 Eastern Northern Neck 480 804
3 Franklin 52.2 4 0 1.000 140 63 0.69 18.5 0.574 1 41 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tri-Rivers 286 757
4 Radford 51.1 4 1 0.800 216 113 0.66 34.5 0.543 1 45 1A West A D-1 Western Three Rivers 452 540
5 Parry McCluer 50.7 5 1 0.833 142 55 0.72 30.2 0.526 1 45 1A West A D-1 Eastern Pioneer 340 540
6 J.I. Burton 50.6 5 1 0.833 221 143 0.61 28.9 0.584 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 256 276
7 Bland(RG) 50.5 5 0 1.000 172 50 0.77 22.6 0.578 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Mtn. Empire 287 276
8 Auburn 50.1 4 1 0.800 182 33 0.85 32.1 0.535 1 45 1A West A D-1 Western Three Rivers 380 540
9 George Wythe(W) 49.5 4 1 0.800 194 125 0.61 30.0 0.539 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 435 276
10 Honaker 49.2 5 1 0.833 212 48 0.82 15.6 0.515 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Black Diamond 395 276
11 William Campbell 49.0 3 2 0.600 136 163 0.45 49.2 0.565 1 44 1A East A D-1 Eastern Dogwood 320 434
12 Luray 48.0 4 1 0.800 87 86 0.50 32.0 0.574 1 44 1A East A D-2 Eastern Shenandoah 468 540
13 Lunenburg 47.7 3 2 0.600 170 169 0.50 41.5 0.538 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern James River 442 434
14 Altavista 44.0 3 2 0.600 171 95 0.64 32.1 0.501 1 44 1A East A D-1 Eastern Dogwood 415 434
15 Covington 39.2 2 4 0.333 103 224 0.31 42.2 0.508 1 45 1A West A D-1 Eastern Pioneer 320 540
16 Sussex Central 36.9 3 1 0.750 140 58 0.71 6.6 0.495 1 41 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tri-Rivers 320 434
17 Galax 36.7 1 4 0.200 137 143 0.49 55.1 0.576 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Mtn. Empire 273 276
18 Northwood 35.6 5 1 0.833 126 76 0.62 12.1 0.516 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 267 276
19 Rural Retreat 35.5 4 2 0.667 208 120 0.63 24.1 0.512 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 310 276
20 Hurley 35.0 4 0 1.000 141 44 0.76 2.1 0.490 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Black Diamond 220 276
21 Narrows 34.9 3 2 0.600 143 115 0.55 35.1 0.486 1 45 1A West A D-1 Western Mtn. Empire 306 540
22 Patrick Henry(GS) 29.5 4 1 0.800 186 118 0.61 8.4 0.488 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 409 276
23 Lancaster 26.5 5 0 1.000 193 25 0.89 -7.8 0.525 1 43 1A East A D-1 Eastern Northern Neck 380 804
24 Bath County 24.7 1 5 0.167 57 222 0.20 42.5 0.450 1 45 1A West A D-1 Eastern Pioneer 231 540
25 Craig County 18.2 1 5 0.167 76 264 0.22 37.6 0.465 1 45 1A West A D-1 Eastern Pioneer 219 540
26 Rappahannock 14.7 4 1 0.800 127 41 0.76 2.4 0.506 1 43 1A East A D-1 Eastern Northern Neck 354 804
27 Twin Springs 14.6 2 3 0.400 94 125 0.43 20.8 0.472 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 230 276
28 Fort Chiswell 14.5 0 5 0.000 52 210 0.20 48.1 0.479 1 46 1A West A D-2 Western Mtn. Empire 473 276
29 Middlesex 13.6 2 2 0.500 101 99 0.51 10.4 0.570 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 418 804
30 Eastside 12.9 1 5 0.167 107 282 0.28 36.8 0.501 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 420 276
31 Colonial Beach 9.3 1 4 0.200 108 151 0.42 26.3 0.456 1 43 1A East A D-1 Eastern Northern Neck 180 804
32 Castlewood 8.0 2 4 0.333 136 129 0.51 20.1 0.474 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 452 276
33 Stonewall Jackson(Q) 8.0 1 4 0.200 69 164 0.30 27.8 0.425 1 44 1A East A D-2 Eastern Shenandoah 454 540
34 Cumberland 4.3 2 2 0.500 75 86 0.47 4.6 0.381 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern James River 430 804
35 Chilhowie 3.2 1 5 0.167 131 200 0.40 25.7 0.427 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 439 276
36 Mathews 2.8 2 3 0.400 76 137 0.36 6.9 0.520 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 431 804
37 Eastern Montgomery 1.2 0 5 0.000 100 205 0.33 33.5 0.367 1 45 1A West A D-1 Western Three Rivers 305 540
38 Northumberland -2.4 3 2 0.600 159 103 0.61 -9.3 0.440 1 43 1A East A D-1 Eastern Northern Neck 425 804
39 Twin Valley -2.5 3 2 0.600 161 108 0.60 30.4 0.434 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Black Diamond 229 276
40 Windsor -3.9 1 4 0.200 70 219 0.24 16.4 0.354 1 41 1A East A D-2 Eastern Tri-Rivers 463 757
41 Thomas Walker -6.1 1 4 0.200 128 216 0.37 9.8 0.360 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 241 276
42 Charles City -12.7 0 4 0.000 54 148 0.27 20.1 0.361 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 285 804
43 Holston -14.7 0 5 0.000 41 147 0.22 20.8 0.362 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 300 276
44 Surry -15.3 1 2 0.333 44 92 0.32 -5.6 0.363 1 41 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tri-Rivers 275 757
45 Northampton -17.9 2 3 0.400 146 149 0.49 -12.2 0.350 1 41 1A East A D-1 Eastern Eastern Shore-A 350 757
46 Rye Cove -22.7 0 5 0.000 66 262 0.20 10.5 0.336 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 230 276
47 Rappahannock County -23.2 0 3 0.000 32 158 0.17 9.7 0.318 1 0 1A East A B Bull Run 266 540
48 West Point -27.8 0 5 0.000 40 194 0.17 5.9 0.370 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 248 804
49 King & Queen -29.7 0 4 0.000 32 211 0.13 2.6 0.379 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 215 804
# Team State
Rating W L PCT PF PA %PTS SOS RPI Div Conf Region Group OLD REGION OLD DISTRICT STUD Area Code
1 Riverheads 70.0 5 0 1.000 195 59 0.77 50.1 0.682 1 44 1A East A D-2 Eastern Shenandoah 475 540
2 Essex 68.0 4 1 0.800 159 100 0.61 47.7 0.590 1 43 1A East A D-2 Eastern Northern Neck 480 804
3 Franklin 52.2 4 0 1.000 140 63 0.69 18.5 0.574 1 41 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tri-Rivers 286 757
4 Radford 51.1 4 1 0.800 216 113 0.66 34.5 0.543 1 45 1A West A D-1 Western Three Rivers 452 540
5 Parry McCluer 50.7 5 1 0.833 142 55 0.72 30.2 0.526 1 45 1A West A D-1 Eastern Pioneer 340 540
6 J.I. Burton 50.6 5 1 0.833 221 143 0.61 28.9 0.584 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 256 276
7 Bland(RG) 50.5 5 0 1.000 172 50 0.77 22.6 0.578 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Mtn. Empire 287 276
8 Auburn 50.1 4 1 0.800 182 33 0.85 32.1 0.535 1 45 1A West A D-1 Western Three Rivers 380 540
9 George Wythe(W) 49.5 4 1 0.800 194 125 0.61 30.0 0.539 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 435 276
10 Honaker 49.2 5 1 0.833 212 48 0.82 15.6 0.515 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Black Diamond 395 276
11 William Campbell 49.0 3 2 0.600 136 163 0.45 49.2 0.565 1 44 1A East A D-1 Eastern Dogwood 320 434
12 Luray 48.0 4 1 0.800 87 86 0.50 32.0 0.574 1 44 1A East A D-2 Eastern Shenandoah 468 540
13 Lunenburg 47.7 3 2 0.600 170 169 0.50 41.5 0.538 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern James River 442 434
14 Altavista 44.0 3 2 0.600 171 95 0.64 32.1 0.501 1 44 1A East A D-1 Eastern Dogwood 415 434
15 Covington 39.2 2 4 0.333 103 224 0.31 42.2 0.508 1 45 1A West A D-1 Eastern Pioneer 320 540
16 Sussex Central 36.9 3 1 0.750 140 58 0.71 6.6 0.495 1 41 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tri-Rivers 320 434
17 Galax 36.7 1 4 0.200 137 143 0.49 55.1 0.576 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Mtn. Empire 273 276
18 Northwood 35.6 5 1 0.833 126 76 0.62 12.1 0.516 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 267 276
19 Rural Retreat 35.5 4 2 0.667 208 120 0.63 24.1 0.512 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 310 276
20 Hurley 35.0 4 0 1.000 141 44 0.76 2.1 0.490 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Black Diamond 220 276
21 Narrows 34.9 3 2 0.600 143 115 0.55 35.1 0.486 1 45 1A West A D-1 Western Mtn. Empire 306 540
22 Patrick Henry(GS) 29.5 4 1 0.800 186 118 0.61 8.4 0.488 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 409 276
23 Lancaster 26.5 5 0 1.000 193 25 0.89 -7.8 0.525 1 43 1A East A D-1 Eastern Northern Neck 380 804
24 Bath County 24.7 1 5 0.167 57 222 0.20 42.5 0.450 1 45 1A West A D-1 Eastern Pioneer 231 540
25 Craig County 18.2 1 5 0.167 76 264 0.22 37.6 0.465 1 45 1A West A D-1 Eastern Pioneer 219 540
26 Rappahannock 14.7 4 1 0.800 127 41 0.76 2.4 0.506 1 43 1A East A D-1 Eastern Northern Neck 354 804
27 Twin Springs 14.6 2 3 0.400 94 125 0.43 20.8 0.472 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 230 276
28 Fort Chiswell 14.5 0 5 0.000 52 210 0.20 48.1 0.479 1 46 1A West A D-2 Western Mtn. Empire 473 276
29 Middlesex 13.6 2 2 0.500 101 99 0.51 10.4 0.570 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 418 804
30 Eastside 12.9 1 5 0.167 107 282 0.28 36.8 0.501 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 420 276
31 Colonial Beach 9.3 1 4 0.200 108 151 0.42 26.3 0.456 1 43 1A East A D-1 Eastern Northern Neck 180 804
32 Castlewood 8.0 2 4 0.333 136 129 0.51 20.1 0.474 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 452 276
33 Stonewall Jackson(Q) 8.0 1 4 0.200 69 164 0.30 27.8 0.425 1 44 1A East A D-2 Eastern Shenandoah 454 540
34 Cumberland 4.3 2 2 0.500 75 86 0.47 4.6 0.381 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern James River 430 804
35 Chilhowie 3.2 1 5 0.167 131 200 0.40 25.7 0.427 1 46 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 439 276
36 Mathews 2.8 2 3 0.400 76 137 0.36 6.9 0.520 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 431 804
37 Eastern Montgomery 1.2 0 5 0.000 100 205 0.33 33.5 0.367 1 45 1A West A D-1 Western Three Rivers 305 540
38 Northumberland -2.4 3 2 0.600 159 103 0.61 -9.3 0.440 1 43 1A East A D-1 Eastern Northern Neck 425 804
39 Twin Valley -2.5 3 2 0.600 161 108 0.60 30.4 0.434 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Black Diamond 229 276
40 Windsor -3.9 1 4 0.200 70 219 0.24 16.4 0.354 1 41 1A East A D-2 Eastern Tri-Rivers 463 757
41 Thomas Walker -6.1 1 4 0.200 128 216 0.37 9.8 0.360 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 241 276
42 Charles City -12.7 0 4 0.000 54 148 0.27 20.1 0.361 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 285 804
43 Holston -14.7 0 5 0.000 41 147 0.22 20.8 0.362 1 47 1A West A D-1 Western Hogoheegee 300 276
44 Surry -15.3 1 2 0.333 44 92 0.32 -5.6 0.363 1 41 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tri-Rivers 275 757
45 Northampton -17.9 2 3 0.400 146 149 0.49 -12.2 0.350 1 41 1A East A D-1 Eastern Eastern Shore-A 350 757
46 Rye Cove -22.7 0 5 0.000 66 262 0.20 10.5 0.336 1 48 1A West A D-1 Western Cumberland 230 276
47 Rappahannock County -23.2 0 3 0.000 32 158 0.17 9.7 0.318 1 0 1A East A B Bull Run 266 540
48 West Point -27.8 0 5 0.000 40 194 0.17 5.9 0.370 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 248 804
49 King & Queen -29.7 0 4 0.000 32 211 0.13 2.6 0.379 1 42 1A East A D-1 Eastern Tidewater 215 804
I would say there are only 4 maybe 5 teams with a realistic shot at the title. You might even be able to narrow it down to teams outside the top 16.
Probably easier to pick final 4 teams in 1A more than any other division.
But still, everyone should play by same rules.
But still, everyone should play by same rules.
There is a huge difference between a 8-9 seed and a 14-15-16 (in 1a)
Like I said look at the chart and who ranked 25 or greater wont get beat by 30+ and more than likely 50+
Like I said look at the chart and who ranked 25 or greater wont get beat by 30+ and more than likely 50+
I have seen 12 seeds beat 5's in 1A. I don't have a problem with 12 in 1a west but in 2a west I would like it to stay at 16. The old region days , in region C when they just took four- usually left 2 super teams out like Giles or Radford. That was when district champs received the first spots though. Region C switched to six while region D stayed at 4.
1A is the only division I'd say 12 on a side....
2A I could go either way
3A and above definitely not 16 on a side
2A I could go either way
3A and above definitely not 16 on a side
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