If they play like they played Luray in the first game,they lose big,if they play like they played against Luray in the regional finals they can win.
2A State championship game: Appomattox vs Robert E Lee
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I didn’t realize that Alger Pugh coached RE Lee....he did a heck of a job at GW Danville back in the day.
The 2008 team finished 10-2. That was Dae'Quan Scott's senior season. Lee finished the regular season 9-1, then defeated Liberty-Bedford in the D3 Region III semifinals, and lost to unbeaten Brookville (Logan Thomas QB) in the final.
Scott had a record breaking season, even though in the final regular season game he got hurt on Lee's third offensive play, and missed the rest of that game. Here are his stats from the JMU profile page.
"As a Robert E. Lee High School senior accounted for 47 touchdowns, rushing for 35, throwing for eight, and returning three kickoffs and one punt for scores...ran 176 times for 2241 yards, an average of 12.7 per rush, and threw for 703 yards."
I mention that because Jayden Williams has accounted for 49 touchdowns this season (27 pass, 22 run).
Is #58 for Lee being recruited by anyone? It was either 58 or 56, can't remember, but man oh man, did this guy explode off the ball and create major problems with Poquoson's defensive line. I think as little as Poquoson is, Lee is BIG. Sounds like a simple and stupid statement, but the point I'm making is......Lee is BIG. It was noticeable at the game, and I think Lee may have been bigger than Southampton in my opinion. Southampton is, and was, always huge up front, but I think Lee was bigger, and the biggest team we've faced. As small as Poquoson looks in the video, much of this is attributable to the giant ism of Lee. One heck of a ball game on Saturday boys.
Yes, we played in 2013, 2014, but that was under a long time coach there. This coach has only been there 3 years.
I'm glad you mentioned that as I remember them only losing 2 games that year (TA on a Monday night as the other loss) but the record shows as 9-3 in some places and 10-2 in others. On maxpreps they changed the Fort Defiance victory to a Lee High forfeit, and the guy on swvasports has the record at 9-3 as well, while vhsl-reference has it as 10-2 (which is what I thought). I thought maybe I missed something on the forfeit and just went worst case scenario at 9-3. Is that forfeit legit? I didnt remember anything about it and noticed it looking back today after double checking the standings.
I don't recall a forfeit. I had a special connection to that team so I followed them closely and keep some newspaper clippings. The final Southern Valley standings show Lee at 4-0 in the five-team district. Fort Defiance finished 0-4. I also did a Google search for 'Dae'Quan Scott Leemen football' and found a Roanoke Times Football playoff capsules dated November 13, 2008. It shows Lee's record at 9-1 before the Liberty game.
I remember the Fort game, which was a blowout, but I'm not sure if the forfeit happened after the season was over or if it is just inaccurate. I'd like to check with Coach Tibbs and find out for sure what the deal is, as I'm with you in that the forfeited game in the standings (on those two sites) against Fort was new to me, but I did worst case scenario in the post just in case, although I should have starred it with both records due to the discrepancy.
Lee got robbed in that TA loss as well. I remember a very poor 15 yarder being called on them late that put TA into field goal range
Wont matter none. We were plenty loud last year, heard the stadium got cited for a noise violation because of us lol.
How strict are they on that? If Union were playing, I'd have to sneak in my cowbell. haha
They checked us at the gate going in last year so i would have to say pretty darn strict.
I guess the VHSL wants the championship game to be a like a dance recital.
I guess they do lol. In 2015 against Clarke noise makers were allowed. I have never heard anything where that has been a problem at Salem. The Salem stadium staff said it was not against their rules and some said it was not a vhsl rule either. I have not been able to confirm either in the course of 12 months.I guess the VHSL wants the championship game to be a like a dance recital.
Not sure how accurate this is as I think it reads 1983 3 -6-1. They lost 1 game that year to Rustburg and then lost to Martinsville in region final. Appo was #1 team in state going into playoffs. Not sure sure about Bragg years as that looks off also.
Remember that 1983 would have been Fall 1983 / Spring 1984 so the year you are talking was Fall 1982/ Spring 1983 or 1982 (9-2-0) which matches your memory lol.
Here's what VHSL Reference has for Lee 2008 Team:
R.E. Lee(ST) Fighting Leemen
Division: 3 Region: III District: Southern Valley City: Staunton Enrollment: 799
Year : 2008 W-L : 10-2
State Rate : 67.0
Off Rate : 81
Def Rate : 57
State Rank : 82
Division Rank : 6
Date
H/A
Opponent
Score
W/L
Opp W-L
08/22/08 H Fort Defiance 40-18 W 1-9
08/29/08 A Alleghany 52-6 W 3-7
09/05/08 H Fluvanna 54-10 W 3-7
09/12/08 H Harrisonburg 56-32 W 8-4
09/19/08 A Broadway 46-14 W 4-6
09/26/08 H Turner Ashby 28-31 L 7-4
10/03/08 A Waynesboro 47-0 W 2-8
10/10/08 H Stuarts Draft 35-20 W 5-6
10/17/08 A Spotswood 40-13 W 5-5
10/24/08 A Rockbridge County 26-6 W 6-5
11/14/08 H Liberty(Bed) 35-7 W 7-5
11/21/08 A Brookville 14-40 L 13-1
p.s. if you click on the blue link, it will take you directly to that team/other info on VHSL reference page
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Hey pizzza, I know you have some familiarity with the history of Lee sports. Do you know anything about the R E Lee victory over Fort Defiance being changed to an R E Lee forfeit for loss and a Fort Defiance forfeit for win? Maxpreps and Bluefield Researcher on swvasports.com each have that game being listed as a forfeit in their final standings.Here's what VHSL Reference has for Lee 2008 Team:
R.E. Lee(ST) Fighting Leemen
Division: 3 Region: III District: Southern Valley City: Staunton Enrollment: 799
Year : 2008 W-L : 10-2
State Rate : 67.0
Off Rate : 81
Def Rate : 57
State Rank : 82
Division Rank : 6
Date
H/A
Opponent
Score
W/L
Opp W-L
08/22/08 H Fort Defiance 40-18 W 1-9
08/29/08 A Alleghany 52-6 W 3-7
09/05/08 H Fluvanna 54-10 W 3-7
09/12/08 H Harrisonburg 56-32 W 8-4
09/19/08 A Broadway 46-14 W 4-6
09/26/08 H Turner Ashby 28-31 L 7-4
10/03/08 A Waynesboro 47-0 W 2-8
10/10/08 H Stuarts Draft 35-20 W 5-6
10/17/08 A Spotswood 40-13 W 5-5
10/24/08 A Rockbridge County 26-6 W 6-5
11/14/08 H Liberty(Bed) 35-7 W 7-5
11/21/08 A Brookville 14-40 L 13-1
I don't put a ton of stock in Maxpreps so I didn't think much initially, but Bluefield researcher on swvasports.com having the game listed as a forfeit as well made me think there's possibly something to it; like the victory was changed/voided for some reason AFTER the season was completed, because it was never mentioned during that season (at least to me and 85straight). During the season, the record was listed as 10-2 and that's what I always thought it was, until seeing the other 2 sites having that forfeit for loss listed in the final standings.
That was new to me as well - had never heard that before, but I can certainly look into it.
I just checked another piece of info. There is a guy on this board who was putting together all the records for all the area teams (as well as teams from all over the state), and he too has the Fort Defiance game listed as a Lee forfeit for loss. His note says: "RE Lee won the game 40-18, but later forfeited due to ineligible player."
Thanks for letting me know - I had no idea this happened - I guess it just was never corrected in all the various websites/publications.
Never heard that business about a Lee forfeit. Interesting.
The noisemaker business puzzles me. I don't have anything I would bring anyway and they don't either bother or impress me at a game, but high school football being what it is, how do you determine when a game is "too loud?" Seems like an awfully subjective thing to try and regulate to me. You wouldn't try to do that to a rock concert.
The noisemaker business puzzles me. I don't have anything I would bring anyway and they don't either bother or impress me at a game, but high school football being what it is, how do you determine when a game is "too loud?" Seems like an awfully subjective thing to try and regulate to me. You wouldn't try to do that to a rock concert.
I yell louder than any cowbell. I have Army PLDC at Ft. Jackson SC to thank for that. I do an obnoxious Rebel Yell too. My apologies to Mr. Walken, but less cowbell.
i did basic at Ft Jackson and PLDC at Ft Lewis! Hoooah! 6 yr vet here as well!
I remember both gamea very well! They beat us at our house then we beat them in theirsHere's what VHSL Reference has for Lee 2008 Team:
R.E. Lee(ST) Fighting Leemen
Division: 3 Region: III District: Southern Valley City: Staunton Enrollment: 799
Year : 2008 W-L : 10-2
State Rate : 67.0
Off Rate : 81
Def Rate : 57
State Rank : 82
Division Rank : 6
Date
H/A
Opponent
Score
W/L
Opp W-L
08/22/08 H Fort Defiance 40-18 W 1-9
08/29/08 A Alleghany 52-6 W 3-7
09/05/08 H Fluvanna 54-10 W 3-7
09/12/08 H Harrisonburg 56-32 W 8-4
09/19/08 A Broadway 46-14 W 4-6
09/26/08 H Turner Ashby 28-31 L 7-4
10/03/08 A Waynesboro 47-0 W 2-8
10/10/08 H Stuarts Draft 35-20 W 5-6
10/17/08 A Spotswood 40-13 W 5-5
10/24/08 A Rockbridge County 26-6 W 6-5
11/14/08 H Liberty(Bed) 35-7 W 7-5
11/21/08 A Brookville 14-40 L 13-1
p.s. if you click on the blue link, it will take you directly to that team/other info on VHSL reference page
How many Lee players also play basketball? I assume several? If so, they will be getting a late start on defending the hardcourt title?
Off the top of my head, I can think of at least three - Velvin, Simmons and Williams (QB) - but there might be more.
I just wanted to get on here and wish both teams all the best !
Both programs have a lot to be proud of ! Great athletes, coaching and fan support !
For Appo, going for 3 in a row is something to be admired and respected, and for R.E. Lee, making it to the state championship game is a tremendous accomplishment !
I hope the game is injury free for the kids and all the fans traveling to and from the game have a safe trip !
Good luck to both !!
Both programs have a lot to be proud of ! Great athletes, coaching and fan support !
For Appo, going for 3 in a row is something to be admired and respected, and for R.E. Lee, making it to the state championship game is a tremendous accomplishment !
I hope the game is injury free for the kids and all the fans traveling to and from the game have a safe trip !
Good luck to both !!
Excellent, excellent very nice. R E Lee has some great young men on their team. From some articles I have read and video's watched they have a very positive winning attitude. I actually think they stole the attitude from Appo lol. Great bunch of young men and I hope all of them do well sunday.
They banned the noise makers last year as well. Didn't stop the Richlands fans from sneaking in cowbells and pop bottles with rocks though. Lol.
And a whistle I might add that they were blowing at the beginning of the game that had our boys (quiting at the the whistle). Our coach had to call a time out and talk to the officials about it.
I'm sure that isnt the norm for that school but that was dirty for whoever it was.
Two years ago the allowed bells and stuff. I know I rung the devil out of mine against Clarke Co.
I'm sure that isnt the norm for that school but that was dirty for whoever it was.
Two years ago the allowed bells and stuff. I know I rung the devil out of mine against Clarke Co.
