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I personally would rather see the rematches of courtland/ King George Hanover/ Dinwiddie Eastern View/Chancellor what you guys think?
 
Sounds good to me. Interested to see how playoffs go. Many claiming the east is down minus LT. Playoffs are almost here!
 
I hate rematches. I wish there was a way VHSL could eliminate them entirely. When a team beats a team, they should not have to see them again.
 
I'm not sure if 4A East is "down", there's no 2013 Dinwiddie in there, but maybe 5A in Richmond is just that good this year. I wanna avoid seeing any first round rematches. I'd like to see:

Louisa/Monacan
Louisa/Hanover
Louisa/EV
Courtland/Dinwiddie
Chancellor/Dinwiddie
EV/Dinwiddie
Hanover/King George

Not many intriguing first round match ups in pod 17-18.
 
I wish EV/Louisa would start playing again during the regular season. Before Fischer left they played every year
 
I'm not sure if 4A East is "down", there's no 2013 Dinwiddie in there, but maybe 5A in Richmond is just that good this year. I wanna avoid seeing any first round rematches. I'd like to see:

Louisa/Monacan
Louisa/Hanover
Louisa/EV
Courtland/Dinwiddie
Chancellor/Dinwiddie
EV/Dinwiddie
Hanover/King George

Not many intriguing first round match ups in pod 17-18.
Are we speaking of the 19-20 pod only?
 
"I'm not sure if 4A East is "down", there's no 2013 Dinwiddie in there" Referring to the East as a whole.

"but maybe 5A in Richmond is just that good this year"
Talking about pod 19-20 only since the 4A Richmond teams lost to good 5A teams.
 
I wish EV/Louisa would start playing again during the regular season. Before Fischer left they played every year
We played until 2012, two years after Fischer left. I agree, I want to start the series back up, especially if you're about to be as talented as you say soon.
 
"I'm not sure if 4A East is "down", there's no 2013 Dinwiddie in there" Referring to the East as a whole.

And you base this off of ?? I never get this statement when made by people not just you. Because Dinwiddie won the state and did so by smacking Sherando there isn't a team in the East that is capable of doing the same? Every year every team is different hell there's no LT 2014, or Briar Woods 2010, 11, or 12. Just because you think teams that you may have seen once is not impressive or you look at scores and compare doesn't make this statement true...
Fun fact: I was looking at our numbers tonight and while people think hey LT isn't as good as their team from 2012 or 2014 offensively we are actually scoring right now in the regular season at a higher clip than both of those teams. What does this mean?? I don't know, but it was interesting to see.
 
2013 Dinwiddie crushed everyone in their path, not just Sherando. It looks like they averaged nearly 50 points per game. Their closest game was 21-0 over Dale. 12-2 Heritage wasn't in the game from the jump. I don't see that kind of team this year. Maybe your boys have improved to that point now, I have no true idea.
 
2013 Dinwiddie crushed everyone in their path, not just Sherando. Their closest game was 21-0 over Dale. 12-2 Heritage wasn't in the game from the jump.

And our game with them was 28-0 but we drove into the red zone 4 times and threw 5 picks with the 3rd team QB. I'm never one for the game is closer than the score, but hell it happened. Heritage took advantage of the fact that Phoebus got beat by an 8 seed Kings Fork, and they had a rematch with a terrible Denbigh team, and we played Dinwiddie. There was no one on Heritage side of the bracket. That Heritage-Dinwiddie game was as big of a mismatch as we have had in any regional final in recent memory. Heritage didn't belong there, but they took care of what was in front of them and made it there.

In 2013 you may have forgotten we started the season preseason #1 in the state and our starting all state QB tore his ACL in the 3rd PLAY of the season. If that kid plays that season we could have been working on a 4 peat this year. That kid threw for 2500 yards 38 tds and 3 INTS in our offense. We threw more picks i the Dinwiddie game than we did in 15 games the season before.
 
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We played until 2012, two years after Fischer left. I agree, I want to start the series back up, especially if you're about to be as talented as you say soon.
As long as Hatfield is there EV will be talented. He knows how to utilize his players maximum athleticism. He has gone away from his spread passing game this year to a physical pounding rushing game but he knows how to operate an offense.
 
2013 Dinwiddie crushed everyone in their path, not just Sherando. It looks like they averaged nearly 50 points per game. Their closest game was 21-0 over Dale. 12-2 Heritage wasn't in the game from the jump. I don't see that kind of team this year. Maybe your boys have improved to that point now, I have no true idea.

Problem people have is the ol eyeball test. I recall last year someone wasn't impressed with us or Bird after watching us play each other. (maybe it was you) but we both went on and won state titles.
 
2013 Dinwiddie crushed everyone in their path, not just Sherando. It looks like they averaged nearly 50 points per game. Their closest game was 21-0 over Dale. 12-2 Heritage wasn't in the game from the jump. I don't see that kind of team this year. Maybe your boys have improved to that point now, I have no true idea.

And our game with them was 28-0 but we drove into the red zone 4 times and threw 5 picks with the 3rd team QB. I'm never one for the game is closer than the score, but hell it happened. Heritage took advantage of the fact that Phoebus got beat by an 8 seed Kings Fork, and they had a rematch with a terrible Denbigh team, and we played Dinwiddie. There was no one on Heritage side of the bracket. That Heritage-Dinwiddie game was as big of a mismatch as we have had in any regional final in recent memory. Heritage didn't belong there, but they took care of what was in front of them and made it there.

You may have forgotten we started the season preseason #1 in the state and our starting all state QB tore his ACL in the 3rd PLAY of the season. If that kid plays that season we could have been working on a 4 peat this year. That kid threw for 2500 yards 38 tds and 3 INTS in our offense.
Well you know me, I'm all about saying the woulda coulda shouldas are part of the game and that great teams can make mistakes that affect outcomes of their wins or losses. But still, that 3rd QB took LT to a 10-3 record, competing with the likes of undefeated Bird along the way, so he had plenty of experience by game 13. I just feel like that Dinwiddie team would've beaten Bird that year. So far I haven't seen a 4A team of that caliber this year.
 
Problem people have is the ol eyeball test. I recall last year someone wasn't impressed with us or Bird after watching us play each other. (maybe it was you) but we both went on and won state titles.
Wasn't me, didn't see y'all play each other. I remember someone posting that though. I didn't see LT until the Salem game. Saw Bird against Hermitage in person and didn't think Bird was good enough to win it all again but they proved me wrong.
 
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Well you know me, I'm all about saying the woulda coulda shouldas are part of the game and that great teams can make mistakes that affect outcomes of their wins or losses. But still, that 3rd QB took LT to a 10-3 record, competing with the likes of undefeated Bird along the way, so he had plenty of experience by game 13. I just feel like that Dinwiddie team would've beaten Bird that year. So far I haven't seen a 4A team of that caliber this year.

And he was covered up by great talent around him, but the problem was Dinwiddie made him be a QB and dared us to throw and he didn't make the throws effectively. We pulled him out and put Quinerly at QB in the Dinwiddie game QB #4...Now fast forward a year later and he's state POY crazy how things work out. Naw that 2013 Bird team was better than Dinwiddie to me having played both. Earl Hughes was the real deal.
 
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Where is Hughes now anyway? I've been wondering. I would love to have that QB problem, though. As for this year up to this point, it seems only LT has that formidable shut-down defense in the East, with maybe Monacan coming in second, but it's hard to tell with Bird and Manchester being the only good teams they played, one without Fludd. You can correct me, but I got the impression from the Monticello game and a handful of highlights of opposing teams that Hughey of LT is probably a year away from being something truly special, plus I don't think he has the receivers with reliable hands like LT has had recently. Again, correct me if I'm wrong. There're probably a few East teams this year that are capable of forcing LT to pass, so then what? It might not matter if LT's defense keeps playing well, though.
 
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Where is Hughes now anyway? I've been wondering. I would love to have that QB problem, though. As for this year up to this point, it seems only LT has that formidable shut-down defense in the East, with maybe Monacan coming in second, but it's hard to tell with Bird and Manchester being the only good teams they played, one without Fludd. You can correct me, but I got the impression from the Monticello game and a handful of highlights of opposing teams that Hughey of LT is probably a year away from being something truly special, plus I don't think he has the receivers with reliable hands like LT has had recently. Again, correct me if I'm wrong. There're probably a few East teams this year that are capable of forcing LT to pass, so then what? It might not matter if LT's defense keeps playing well, though.

Hughes is at Virginia State. I think this is probably the most depth at receiver as we have had in a long time. Highlights honestly don't tell the full story as you know.. We have some capable receivers that will go up and make the catch in Keyvone Bruton, Remano Newby, and Rashad Russell to go alone with Wayne when he plays offense. Bruton and Davis are our two best WR's, but we start Russell and Newby so we don't have a lot of guys going both ways. Newby and Russell can still beat you however. QB has 900 yards passing completing 55% of his passes and has thrown 3 picks in 9 games which is pretty efficient.We will take whatever the defense gives us. If that means throwing it 20+ times like we did at Northeastern or running it 48 times and throwing it 3. We will adapt the game plan he drove us down the field in a tie game against Northeastern on the road and threw a TD pass to Wayne to win the game. We always adjust our game plan based on what the defense gives us, Just ask Mags:

The Lake Taylor QB ran for 123 yards on 21 carries and completed 11 of 19 passes for 168 yards.

“They threw the ball a whole lot more than I thought they would,” Magenbauer said.
 
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Get rid of the eyeball test, show me quality wins.

Eyeball test looks like this for too many....

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