Cow Bells still banned at Salem???
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Those type of devices are all banned but train horns are not only allowed, they are encouraged. A dual battery setup on a rolling skid is most desirable but single cell will work in a pinch.
Wondering if my quick set canopy will be allowed. Probably too much clicking noise.
In 2015 they were allowed then we were told for the 2016 game they were not. None were allowed in 2017 either.
Can't speak of 18, I was there but don't remember hearing any.
Mike from Salem needs to weigh in.
You won't find any. The only thing in VHSL handbook about noise is the band playing when team is out of the huddle. Nothing addressing shakers, cowbells, airhorns, and dare I say it...train horns. Might be soon, but not now.
And that is typical VHSL to pass the buck. I emailed one of their people and asked a very specific question. They responded back quickly, I'll give them that, but completely side stepped my question. I replied back and asked the question again, more direct this time. Never got a response.
Not to start a discussion I know some of you SWVA guys have had on the other board but do any of you really equate 500-1000 people shaking rocks in a coke bottle to a train horn? I will say again that the only experience I have with a train horn was during the Giles game several years ago and they were not overtly disruptive with it. I actually thought it added to the game atmosphere but they were beating our tail so they had no need to blow it incessantly when we were on offense.
That all said there's letter of the law and spirit of the law. Letter of the law states no bands when a huddle breaks but working the gray area of blowing the horn up to the snap is bush league at best. And to be clear, I am not saying anyone does that but that accusation was made several times this year in one game or another against multiple teams that use a train horn. In other words, just because it isn't spelled out directly not to do that, doesn't mean you should be doing it. Just my opinion and has nothing to do with long standing tradition or anything else.
I do find it intriguing where people fall on this subject. The polar opposites would have us watch a game in a vacuum with tennis clapping between plays at best. How much fun would that be, lol?
That all said there's letter of the law and spirit of the law. Letter of the law states no bands when a huddle breaks but working the gray area of blowing the horn up to the snap is bush league at best. And to be clear, I am not saying anyone does that but that accusation was made several times this year in one game or another against multiple teams that use a train horn. In other words, just because it isn't spelled out directly not to do that, doesn't mean you should be doing it. Just my opinion and has nothing to do with long standing tradition or anything else.
I do find it intriguing where people fall on this subject. The polar opposites would have us watch a game in a vacuum with tennis clapping between plays at best. How much fun would that be, lol?
I love the horn when it's done appropriately.
Anyone know if this is just 2A. Are the other finals allowed noise makers?
OK!!! This in from our AD who got it from the Assistant AD for the VHSL.
Stuart Draft folks....please don't read this.
Good afternoon Chris:
Artificial noisemakers, such as cow bells, are permitted in outdoor venues. You fans are free to shake away!
Good luck this weekend!
Shawn L. Knight
Assistant Director
Virginia High School League
Phone: (434) 977-8475
Fax: (434) 977-5943
Stuart Draft folks....please don't read this.
Good afternoon Chris:
Artificial noisemakers, such as cow bells, are permitted in outdoor venues. You fans are free to shake away!
Good luck this weekend!
Shawn L. Knight
Assistant Director
Virginia High School League
Phone: (434) 977-8475
Fax: (434) 977-5943
Dang replies are like talking to politicians, one says yes other says no.
Bring the cowbells. Bring the train horns. Just use the train horn responsibly. I love the train horn sound!
The LOUDEST thing in Salem Saturday will be the outfit worn by a certain person. You know who you are!!!!
I don't need a noisemaker. I'm bring my rebel yell and my best R. Lee Ermey voice (PG version). Go Cougars! Go Gladiators!
I thought it was a Salem stadium rule.....good to have clarification on this.OK!!! This in from our AD who got it from the Assistant AD for the VHSL.
Stuart Draft folks....please don't read this.
Good afternoon Chris:
Artificial noisemakers, such as cow bells, are permitted in outdoor venues. You fans are free to shake away!
Good luck this weekend!
Shawn L. Knight
Assistant Director
Virginia High School League
Phone: (434) 977-8475
Fax: (434) 977-5943
Just for the record and not to beat this topic up again like it has throughout the years......
The train horn issue started in 2013 playoff game vs appomattox. They blew that thing excessively on cadence, in huddles, during the play, etc. Giles knew they were in trouble....they blew everyone away that year and won by a last second FG. Our kids had never heard a train horn being blown during cadences (or during a game) and we had like 8 false starts that game. Anyways, its over with.....they do it more responsible now. I have not had a problem with the horn, just do it respectfully. I have actually gotten to know the one who blows it on FB for a few years. Good dude @SWVAgridiron
I think the funniest thread on here was then the Train horn guy from Glenvar got on here and they started a hilarious thread.
The train horn issue started in 2013 playoff game vs appomattox. They blew that thing excessively on cadence, in huddles, during the play, etc. Giles knew they were in trouble....they blew everyone away that year and won by a last second FG. Our kids had never heard a train horn being blown during cadences (or during a game) and we had like 8 false starts that game. Anyways, its over with.....they do it more responsible now. I have not had a problem with the horn, just do it respectfully. I have actually gotten to know the one who blows it on FB for a few years. Good dude @SWVAgridiron
I think the funniest thread on here was then the Train horn guy from Glenvar got on here and they started a hilarious thread.
I got the email to show folks.
Our AD said he forwarded a copy of the email that the guy sent him say it was allowed.
I’ve also emailed their AD about it.
They should know!
Our AD said he forwarded a copy of the email that the guy sent him say it was allowed.
I’ve also emailed their AD about it.
They should know!
You better print out the email & take with you. They weren’t allowed last year at Salem. They checked the bags.
Umbrellas are not allowed in some facilities for the reasoning that if one person is using one it interferes with the vision of the person behind them. That is why so many people go with ponchos, etc.
Not sure where but the reasoning is sound. If one person has it up the next two or three rows behind then have their view blocked. Same with a tent like structure I'm sure.
I despise it when people bring an umbrella to a football game. They're not allowed in most major sports venues now anyway and shouldn't be allowed anywhere. Bring a poncho or do like I do and get wet.
Also despise the overgrown stadium chairs some folks bring as well. The ones that are way too big for the metal bleachers and if I am sitting behind take up all my leg room. The ones that are perfectly molded to the metal bleachers are fine, the ones that aren't are not.
Also despise the overgrown stadium chairs some folks bring as well. The ones that are way too big for the metal bleachers and if I am sitting behind take up all my leg room. The ones that are perfectly molded to the metal bleachers are fine, the ones that aren't are not.
Really boils down to not being courteous to others.
Nothing should surprise us in this day and age. People are rude af to each other and get mad when the favor is returned.
