No animosity toward Galax but I'd like to see GW pull the upset. I think in the end it won't matter. I cannot see anyone beating the Riverheads. I could be wrong but they're strong competition even for some 2A teams.
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Could be but I dont think they would blow them out....I think Riverheads would still be competitive
There are some dang good teams in 2A so it’s a real bold statement to say that Riverheads would be in the discussion. Compete maybe but there are some extremely athletic teams that can put a ton of pressure on a team.
Agreed. I would recommend watching Appo live to anyone who hasn't. Shutting out Glenvar in a playoff game is an unreal task.
I respectfully disagree. They lost to Buckingham by 3 TDs. They arent all that. They came to our jamboree 3 or 4 years in a row including years they won the state. I dont think they ever beat RH in the scrimmage I think they tied them once.
Shutting Glenvar out is certainly a tall task at any time much less the playoffs. Transient scores aside, as they say matchups make fights. I had read in another thread an Appo fan was speaking to Buckinghams size being a factor in their game. It was also stated by a Buckingham fan in their games with Page and ER that they seen those teams as being big. I will use that comparison only to say that Riverheads is as big or bigger than either of them and athletic at the skill positions so while I realize the Raiders are a great team, there isn’t as big a gap from the top of 1A to the top of 2A. There are 4-6 really good teams at the top of both and while I would favor the 2A teams in most matchups, it wouldn’t be as if the 1A teams were complete dogs. We will not get any of those matchups anyway but if you hold to the hypothetical simulation of calpreps, you might be surprised how each classification stacks up against each other. Neither here nor there because I really believe there are several good games this week in each class. Enjoy
Riverheads need to petition vhsl to just move up to 2a in football only. They would have a legitimate shot at the state title for a minimum of the next three years.
A few points to address in the last couple posts....
1). If you honestly believe a "Jamboree" is any indication of what a team can do over the course of 10 weeks....you are one of the most naive people on this site. Appo went on a run from 2015-2017 and amassed a 44-1 record over that time. You stated they came and played RH during their State Title seasons....which year was that? In 2015 RH wasn't even the best 1A school in the state. In 2017, RH lost to RE Lee....by 16. Appo beat RE Lee. I am interested to hear what year Appomattox came in and "tied" RH in a "Jamboree".
2). Again, losing early in the season doesn't equate to what you are at the end of the season. I've seen countless times where a team loses early on and then starts peaking in the last couple weeks heading into the playoffs. Appo lost to Buckingham early on in the year. Since then they have been clicking, especially their defense.
3). People say matchups make games....I agree. Do we really believe that a team like RH would be able to run 90% of the time at a team like Appo? I don't see it. I think when speaking about a team run by Doug Smith you have to realize that he is facing all different looks week in and out....and his defenses usually answer the call come playoff time.
I guess we will never see these teams play unless for some odd reason they would ever be in the same Division (VERY unlikely). But the hypothetical discussions are entertaining.
1). If you honestly believe a "Jamboree" is any indication of what a team can do over the course of 10 weeks....you are one of the most naive people on this site. Appo went on a run from 2015-2017 and amassed a 44-1 record over that time. You stated they came and played RH during their State Title seasons....which year was that? In 2015 RH wasn't even the best 1A school in the state. In 2017, RH lost to RE Lee....by 16. Appo beat RE Lee. I am interested to hear what year Appomattox came in and "tied" RH in a "Jamboree".
2). Again, losing early in the season doesn't equate to what you are at the end of the season. I've seen countless times where a team loses early on and then starts peaking in the last couple weeks heading into the playoffs. Appo lost to Buckingham early on in the year. Since then they have been clicking, especially their defense.
3). People say matchups make games....I agree. Do we really believe that a team like RH would be able to run 90% of the time at a team like Appo? I don't see it. I think when speaking about a team run by Doug Smith you have to realize that he is facing all different looks week in and out....and his defenses usually answer the call come playoff time.
I guess we will never see these teams play unless for some odd reason they would ever be in the same Division (VERY unlikely). But the hypothetical discussions are entertaining.
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Not sure of the years but I know they were here 3 or 4 years in a row. Appo only put 21 on Glenvar RH put 38 on them so it sounds like RH offense might be better than Appo but we will never find out. I have seen every Appo team over the last 8 or 10 years if not in person, on film and I know for a fact RH could play with every one of them.
You win, no need for me to argue over this. There are 8 teams left in 1A and that’s the only ones I am worried about at all for the next 3 weeks. 2A will take care of itself.
I’d pay triple at the gate In Salem to see the 1a winner face the 2a winner just for bragging rights. Wouldn’t that be something? 3 games in one day...
That 2016 Appo team was a MACHINE. They were one of the best 2A teams I can remember seeing since the 90s. No team in 1-2A was staying within 14 points by the end of the year. One close game in a mud bath against a good Dan River team but rest were dominations. If you couldn't beat Draft in 2016, you weren't touching Appo, who beat the team that made it out of Drafts bracket, Richlands, by 35 points.
And 2017, Lee beat one team relatively handily and lost to the other, kinda hard to argue.
Not saying Riverheads are scrubs by any means, but Appo was a monster during that run. Using a preseason scrimmage to say they wouldn't win is a little silly to me. Union has gotten the better of Elizabethton in at least one scrimmage before the year but Betsy would win a regular season game and possibly handily.
The 2016 Appo squad wasn’t nothin’ nice!!! 44-1 over a 3 year span with playing Heritage 2-3 times over that time frame is unreal.
I wasn’t trying to discredit RH, but, I believe Appo over the last 4 out of 5 years is in a different league than RH.
I wasn’t trying to discredit RH, but, I believe Appo over the last 4 out of 5 years is in a different league than RH.
Just a quick question, are we using transient scores or not? If we are then this Riverheads team is miles ahead of Appomattox and it’s not even close win lose or draw from here out. Because we housed the team that housed the team that beat Appomattox. I don’t think it applies but the referencing above mentioned this team beating that team which beat the other team and to me it’s all a mute point. The Raiders were/are a gold standard team and there is no disputing that. I know I certainly am not.
Now I am not really sure how this junk got brought up in a thread about a very good Galax and GW matchup. One of which the majority of SWVA would argue could compete in the 2A class. That’s from coaches/fans of their opponents not their own fans. Suffice to say we don’t need to disregard ones accomplishment to make another look better.
With that said, Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels to anyone hitting the highways to visit family. Hold them dear because we are not promised tomorrow.
Now I am not really sure how this junk got brought up in a thread about a very good Galax and GW matchup. One of which the majority of SWVA would argue could compete in the 2A class. That’s from coaches/fans of their opponents not their own fans. Suffice to say we don’t need to disregard ones accomplishment to make another look better.
With that said, Happy Thanksgiving and safe travels to anyone hitting the highways to visit family. Hold them dear because we are not promised tomorrow.
Appo is in a different class when it comes to pure speed. They definitely match up better with the teams that run the spread but the offfense that RH runs neutralizes that speed. That 3 yards and a cloud of dust isnt going to be stopped just because you have corners that can run a 4.4 or 4.5. You have to have some beast linebackers. I just think RH long methodical drives playing keep away limits Appos scores and keeps the game close. Never said RH would win but guarentee the games would be close and respectable but we will never know because to my knowledge they have never played a meaningful game.
Even as one of the smallest 2A teams somehow. RH is literally in a different league than Appo. So you are correct.
Possible Freudian slip? Maybe the transient school enrollment in Augusta County is to blame for the constant suspicion of their ADM figures!
Regardless of what word was used everyone knows what he meant. But thanks for the English lesson.
Thanks fellas, didn’t mean to step all over the English language.
Just to add my two cents I think you are right we had our 4 year run in 2a we were very competitive but I believe the teams that beat us went on to win the title in at least two of those years and those Riverheads teams weren’t as good as this team and the 2016 team it would be a fun match up though but I don’t think you can overwhelmingly say that Appo would win this year. Some of those Appo teams I would say would win though.
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