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I was all set to go to this on Friday. But found out to that I have to work Friday. I had the day off and was looking forward to watch it. Can one of you Graham or Glenvar folks give me a run down of how the teams looked? Thanks in advance. I guess I'll try to catch something on Saturday
 
I was all set to go to this on Friday. But found out to that I have to work Friday. I had the day off and was looking forward to watch it. Can one of you Graham or Glenvar folks give me a run down of how the teams looked? Thanks in advance. I guess I'll try to catch something on Saturday

Where and time of glenvar Graham scrimmage?
 
Graham's Taymon Cooke 56 yard TD catch

*I'm not there btw, just getting them texted to me
 
Graham's Taymon Cooke 56 yard TD catch

*I'm not there btw, just getting them texted to me
Thanks for the updates. It is appreciated. I was all set to go and was told that I had to a mandatory meeting today. At noon. Ruined my whole day.
 
Thanks for the updates. It is appreciated. I was all set to go and was told that I had to a mandatory meeting today. At noon. Ruined my whole day.

No problem. My guy left early so I didn't get the full rundown but he told me that he thinks it ended up
Graham 4 touchdowns
Glenvar 1 touchdown

After the 2 td's I listed above, Taymon Cooke had a pick 6 and Cam Allen had a 10 yard qb run for a TD. Not sure who scored for Glenvar? If anyone was there the whole time and wants to give a rundown that'd be great!
 
I just got back. Watched it from start to finish as my wife is a Glenvar grad. Glenvar is going to be very good. They are a very solid football team. Graham is scary good. They completely dominated the football game. The have speed all over the field and they have more speed on the sidelines when the speed on the field takes a break! I watched Graham play 2 years ago against James River and watched them last year over in Pearisburg against Giles. This year's Graham team is far better than both of the last 2 times I watched Graham. Their lineplay is far, far better than 2 years ago and it's far better than last year. My state title prediction is Puquoson based on what they return and them dropping in Classification. Only one guy's opinion and purely for fun. But, there is no way there are 4 teams in the state that are better in Class/Div 2 than Graham. I certainly can't be sure of that as I haven't watched every team in Virginia Class/Div 2 play, but I am going by watching the last 10 years of Virginia HS Football and simply judging it from the eyeball test based on what a top 4 teams looks like. They are a top 4 team. I was impressed. I think Glenvar is a top 8 type Class/Div 2 team. They are still very good regardless of the score and scrimmage game against Graham. When Giles and Glenvar play late in the season, watch and see how close the game is. Glenvar will be right with Giles.

I will not get to see Richlands or Union play this year as that is to far west for me. I will not see Graham in regular season either, but I will see DR and Appo and Giles at Glenvar and a couple of Poquoson games and I will let you know what I think. I know Graham and Richlands are big rivals and Richlands has got the best of them from what I have read on this board for many years. Unless Richlands is out of this world type good, I just don't think they will beat Graham this year. If they do, then they are/will have one heck of a football team because the team I watched today is scary good and it's going to take one mammoth good of a team to beat em for 4 quarters. Again, the biggest difference I noticed in Graham from last year and this year is the lineplay. They remind me much of the Appo team from 2015, not last years Appo, but the 2015 Appo. In 2014, you could just see that Appo was very close and all the pieces were one year away from them being a solid, solid football team and of course in 2015, the pieces came together. Last year's Graham team in watching them at Giles seem similar to Appo in 2014. You could see they had talent on the field, but just was not quite there yet and they needed one more year. Well, in watching the scrimmage today, I think they are exactly that. They have arrived and have the ability to win the state title. (Again, not saying they will by any means). What I am saying is, the talent is there and if they won the title, would it be a miraculous shock or major upset? The answer is no, it wouldn't be. I'm telling you, I watched a very, very good football team that you can tell from 5 minutes of watching them, they are right there in position to make a deep run if not run the whole thing. My prediction though-Poquoson over Appo for the state title.
 
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I remember how accurately lucustookis assessed teams last year. Based on what he saw today, I suppose I should be happy if Richlands can stay within 3 tds of Graham. On the bright side, the Blues outscored Belfry 4 tds to 0 today, and they return 4 offensive linemen and all but one of the defensive linemen that gave Graham fits last year. Perhaps playing Graham at home this year will keep the game competitive.
 
I remember how accurately lucustookis assessed teams last year. Based on what he saw today, I suppose I should be happy if Richlands can stay within 3 tds of Graham. On the bright side, the Blues outscored Belfry 4 tds to 0 today, and they return 4 offensive linemen and all but one of the defensive linemen that gave Graham fits last year. Perhaps playing Graham at home this year will keep the game competitive.

Yeah but how many transfers did you guys get this year to fill out your starters? That's the big question
 
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I remember how accurately lucustookis assessed teams last year. Based on what he saw today, I suppose I should be happy if Richlands can stay within 3 tds of Graham. On the bright side, the Blues outscored Belfry 4 tds to 0 today, and they return 4 offensive linemen and all but one of the defensive linemen that gave Graham fits last year. Perhaps playing Graham at home this year will keep the game competitive.

Perhaps we can let them all decide it on the field.
 
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I remember how accurately lucustookis assessed teams last year. Based on what he saw today, I suppose I should be happy if Richlands can stay within 3 tds of Graham. On the bright side, the Blues outscored Belfry 4 tds to 0 today, and they return 4 offensive linemen and all but one of the defensive linemen that gave Graham fits last year. Perhaps playing Graham at home this year will keep the game competitive.
What was the final of the GW vs Richlands scrimmage?
 
I remember how accurately lucustookis assessed teams last year. Based on what he saw today, I suppose I should be happy if Richlands can stay within 3 tds of Graham. On the bright side, the Blues outscored Belfry 4 tds to 0 today, and they return 4 offensive linemen and all but one of the defensive linemen that gave Graham fits last year. Perhaps playing Graham at home this year will keep the game competitive.

Wow, harsh attack against me simply because I feel Graham is a solid tram and predicted they will beat Richlands. Are u that sensitive? I picked Richlands to play Appo in the title last year from game one of the playoffs and predicted Richlands to beat Graham in a close one in the playoffs. Where I missed was.....I predicted Richlands to win the state title and beat Appo. Regardless of my picks, no need to attack me simply because I feel Graham will get you guys this year. Like I wrote, it will not matter for either of you because Appo and Poqouson got dibs on the title game.

The thread was about Glenvar and Graham. I'm impressed how you come on the board and let folks know in this thread how Richlands did. You realize that nobody asked, correct? You remind me of a third grader raising their hand and shouting, "pick me, pick me." Are you that desperate when Richlands is not picked by everyone or when someone picks against them? Get a grip and relax my friend. Take a deep breath.

P.S. You know what worries some of you Richlands fans in my opinion, and why you are so quick to get upset whenever a team like Graham is given some credit? You worry about a state title without all of the near misses. You will never admit it, but it sickens you that since Richlands has become dominant in far SWVA since about 2004, about 13 years, you only have 1 title in that time frame to show for all of the great records and runner up finishes, and Graham has struggled since 2004 after decades of dominance in Tazewell's County and has had some of its worst football years since 2004, but with one single swoop and coming not close to a title in the last 13 years, Graham has the possibility of being able to match you in state titles in the last 13-14 years if they were to win it. That bothers you.

The fact that their record since 2004ish will not have been as good, nor is their playoff resume nearly as good, but with one swoop, they could match u in title wins since 2004ish. This is why you quickly speak up when Graham is given just a little credit. It's the reason for all of the hyperbole like "3 TDs and us staying with them" etc. Clearly, that wasn't written, but the hyperbole is your underlying true worry, anger, and discontent towards Graham.

Relax Storm, Graham isn't getting a title this year. No worries, but......as usual, neither is Richlands.
 
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Richlands beat Belfry, KY today 4 touchdowns to 0. For those unfamiliar with the Pirates, they have won 4 straight 3A state titles in Kentucky and have placed over a dozen players in D1 football during that run. From what I've heard, Belfry didn't complete a pass against Richlands. I know Belfry is traditionally a run-based offense, but that's still impressive.

Richlands defense (barring injury) will be unbelievably good this year. Their front 7 are reminiscent of a small college front 7. If the offense comes along, Richlands has every chance of making it far in the playoffs.

They play one of the hardest schedules this side of Roanoke with games @ Union, hosting defending 3A champion Blacksburg @ 4A William Byrd, and traveling to Bluefield, WV. All of those games are in succession. That doesn't include the Graham game later in the season.

Until Graham proves it can mentally beat Richlands, I won't put them ahead of the Blues. They've won ONE matchup with the Blues in the last 12 years and held 3 score leads in both games vs Richlands last year and couldn't close. Richlands is in their head, bad.

Wish I could see that game. It's sure to be a tense slugfest.
 
Until Graham proves it can mentally beat Richlands, I won't put them ahead of the Blues. They've won ONE matchup with the Blues in the last 12 years and held 3 score leads in both games vs Richlands last year and couldn't close. Richlands is in their head, bad.

Like I wrote, I pick Graham to supersede Richlands this year. I could be wrong, but I stand by the pick. Graham will win the football game in my opinion. Why? I told you. I watched Graham against Glenvar and that team I watched is legitimate. They are the real deal. I know little about the Richlands and Graham series other than what fans of both sides have told me. Similar to the information you gave about Richlands dropping the hammer on Graham the last 12 of 13 times, the info I have received is even more detailed.

Graham has dominated Southwest District play years ago and Tazewell County football from the 1950's through about 2004 with Tazewell having some solid teams in the 60's and getting some wins over Graham here and there, and Richlands having some success a couple of years in the early 90's when it won a state title. I've been told the talent has always been there at Graham, but the coaching since their legendary coach passed away had slipped, adding to that, Mance from Richlands was on the rise. With the new coach at Graham, I have heard good things and that the tide is turning in that Coach Mance has 1 or two more years left, and of course Graham's coach is very good and he's exactly that, a new coach and getting kids out for football, and getting kids from West Virginia. Just like the tide turned for Richlands in 2004ish, it's about to turn back in Graham's favor (my opinion only). Keep in mind that since Richlands has been on an incredibly long run of wins since roughly 2003-2004 with many state semifinals and state finals appearances, they have won a total of 1 state title in this timeframe.

I picked Richlands to beat Graham close last year and win the state title over Appo. I also picked the Richlands and Graham winner (if it were to be Graham) to beat Appo. I was wrong on one half of the equation in the winner of the game. I don't think I will pick Richlands again in the state finals. For whatever reason, they just don't perform to the level of expectations. Appo last year was not a letdown for Richlands, as Appo would have whipped any team it faced, but the example is....Richlands was far better than Stuarts Draft last year in the semi's, yet it nearly let Draft win the game. The same happened with Poquoson years ago. My step-son was a junior on the Poquoson team and to this day, I think Richlands was a better team and I was of course rooting for Poquoson, but Richlands found a way to lose it. I just don't trust Richlands late in the playoffs. Historically, or at least in the last 13 or so years since Richlands has been very dominant, Graham simply hasn't made it that far to have a "letdown"; so credit Richlands for getting that far year in and year out, but at the end of the day, success is measured by titles, whether we like or not, and whether we want to admit it or not, and through all of Richlands solid years since roughly 03-04, they only have 1 state title to show for it. I don't think it matters much at this point because like I wrote, I think the tide is going to turn back in Graham's favor starting with this year. Time will tell and I could be wrong, but even if I am wrong, I sure as heck am not picking Richlands to win a state title game. More times than not, if I pick the other team, I will be right. History shows us that, and it shows us that even when Richlands is probably the better team, and they have had more than 1 year since 2004ish when they definitely-likely were the best team in their classification. Probably 3-4 times they have had the best team, but again, titles is a big measure of success. The loss/retirement of Richlands coach is going to be an absolutely huge factor in the series with Graham. His departure, whether at the end of this year or next, is going to play a part.

One final thing on the Richlands and Graham series since 2004. You wrote that Richlands is in Graham's head. I trust your word as a fan and I am sure a regular watcher of this football game, but I question (at least from a distance on what I've read on this board and what I've heard) that they have been in Graham's head. Meaning.....I think there is the large possibility or likelihood that Richlands has simply been better...much better than Graham. Richlands has whipped lots of teams on a regular basis since 2004, so I question seriously that the teams were "equal" and Richlands just won 13-of 14 or however many it is simply because they were in Graham's head. I think Richlands has been better. This year....going by what I saw at Glenvar, Graham will be better than Richlands. Only my take. On Belfry, Kentucky, they had the winningest class in their history last year as those seniors dominated. They lost 23 of them and if one reads the Kentucky message boards, it reads....Belfry has never lost 23 seniors in the history of the program and they will be as down as they have been in 2017 in about 15 years. Therefore, the scrimmage win by Richlands is still over a solid program, but it's a little misleading when going by Belfry's history alone. Belfry lost 23 seniors and will have its worst year in 2017 since about 15 years ago. The 2017 is no where close to where Belfry has been.
 
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From Oct. 22, 2016--
If Appo were to lose to Amherst, Graham will wind up the 1 seed. As a Giles fan, we played them the last few years. Last year's Graham team and this year's Graham team are not close. The Graham team we faced this year has a wicked defense to go with its offense. What makes Graham very unique in the West compared to the Richland's teams last year and this year is Grahams ability to easily throw it and run it. They are explosive every running play and every passing play. The talent on that team I watched was at our place was scary good. Whether it's Appo, Dan River, Union, Giles or Richlands, Graham is a bad draw come playoff time for any team that faces them. The Graham team is not just night and day better than last year's team, but they have apparently improved each game this season, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
Anything can happen come playoff time and Appo is the favorite to win the whole thing as they won it last year and returns tons of talent. I still believe......that Graham will win the state title. They actually have MORE talent than Appo in my opinion and they are actually faster than Appo.
From November 19th, 2016--
I will stand by my statement made prior to the playoffs started. Graham will beat Richland in game three and contrary to the opinions of many of my fellow Giles fans and even after seeing Appo last night, Graham will win the AA state title game in Salem. Lots of football left to be played and anything can happen, but I am keeping my pick. Graham is the real deal. Best wishes to both teams in staying healthy so either team will be ready to go when they cross over to play the east in game four.


From last night --
Wow, harsh attack against me simply because I feel Graham is a solid tram and predicted they will beat Richlands. Are u that sensitive? I picked Richlands to play Appo in the title last year from game one of the playoffs and predicted Richlands to beat Graham in a close one in the playoffs. Where I missed was.....I predicted Richlands to win the state title and beat Appo. Regardless of my picks, no need to attack me simply because I feel Graham will get you guys this year. Like I wrote, it will not matter for either of you because Appo and Poqouson got dibs on the title game.

I won't argue with you regarding Appo or Poquoson, as I feel they are the favorites. But it still doesn't change the fact that you're better at hype and fudging the truth than picking football winners ...

One last thing ... while Graham may end up beating Richlands, I still fear Union this year more than Graham or any other 2A team in SWVa.
 
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From Oct. 22, 2016--
From November 19th, 2016--


From last night --

I won't argue with you regarding Appo or Poquoson, as I feel they are the favorites. But it still doesn't change the fact that you're better at hype and fudging the truth than picking football winners ...

One last thing ... while Graham may end up beating Richlands, I still fear Union this year more than Graham or any other 2A team in SWVa.
I had thought that he picked Graham to win it all last year, but didn't feel like going to find it. Kudos to you for going back lol. You got some 'splainin' to do, lucastookis...
 
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I also spent a little time on Bluegrass Preps ... where Belfry is the pre-season number one ranked 3A team. Unlike last year, they're not heavy favorites to win the title. However, I failed to find the comment about this year's Belfry team being the worst of the last 15 years, and they were consistently mentioned as one of the favorites in the latest thread on title contenders.
 
Poq hosted West Point on Thursday. The only TD Poq scored in the entire scrimmage came on a busted play where WP only had 10 guys on the field. Poq is not a state title contender in 2A imo
 
Well, I know it's fun to talk about who is going to win state or who is going to beat who, but the truth is that none of us truly know as of now because all we have seen is Jamborees and scrimmages which may give you a little bit of an idea of what type of team each school may have, but we just don't know until the real football starts.
But I will say that Union and Graham both scare me to a certain point, but as long as Mance is the coach at Richlands, I like our chances.
The team that I saw last night looked good against both GW and Belfry..........especially the D. Big and hard hitting, the only thing that really worries me is the speed factor. We don't have as much as we have had in the past and that worries me when we face teams that have a lot of it, but there will be very few, if any teams that will push this team around down in the line of scrimmage. The front 7 of the Blues is as good as they have been in a while.
The O looked better at times than what I expected, but they will not be explosive this year, but with the D they will have, they wont have to be. Just move the ball with the running game and make a big play when the opportunity is there and and above all else, keep the turnovers to a minimum.
Just my humble opinion.
But we will all see where our teams actually are in a couple of short weeks.
 
Richlands beat Belfry, KY today 4 touchdowns to 0. For those unfamiliar with the Pirates, they have won 4 straight 3A state titles in Kentucky and have placed over a dozen players in D1 football during that run. From what I've heard, Belfry didn't complete a pass against Richlands. I know Belfry is traditionally a run-based offense, but that's still impressive.

Richlands defense (barring injury) will be unbelievably good this year. Their front 7 are reminiscent of a small college front 7. If the offense comes along, Richlands has every chance of making it far in the playoffs.

They play one of the hardest schedules this side of Roanoke with games @ Union, hosting defending 3A champion Blacksburg @ 4A William Byrd, and traveling to Bluefield, WV. All of those games are in succession. That doesn't include the Graham game later in the season.

Until Graham proves it can mentally beat Richlands, I won't put them ahead of the Blues. They've won ONE matchup with the Blues in the last 12 years and held 3 score leads in both games vs Richlands last year and couldn't close. Richlands is in their head, bad.

Wish I could see that game. It's sure to be a tense slugfest.
Yeah but how many transfers did you guys get this year to fill out your starters? That's the big question
Only one new transfer a middle linebacker that looks pretty impressive. They did beat Belfry pretty handily, however I didn't see nearly as many athletes for Belfry this year. I believe Belfry will struggle this season. Not as much size up front for Belfry this season either. That being said, Richland's defense looks strong again, Offensively they don't have near the speed they had last year and big play capability but still have good size and a pretty good run game to go with a decent passing game. It's early yet, everybody will improve. Coaches are not trying a whole lot of the at this point. Last year the lineplay of Richlands is what beat Graham. Graham has greasy fast speed, but Richlands got to Graham's athletes at the point if attack. If Graham's line has improved enough to hold blocks long enough for Graham's speedy athletes to get to the 2nd level then it may be a different story this season. Time will tell.
Since I didn't get to see Graham / Glenvar. I went to the Richlands Jamboree yesterday. Went to see Bluefield and Christiansburg this morning. Bluefield scored 2 quick td's in varsity action and took their starters out. Christiansburg should be in for a long season. Bluefield is much improved on the line of scrimmage and Cooper is dangerous at QB. They should be back to form this year.

The matchups between Richlands, Graham and Bluefield should all be good contests. I'll stand by what I said about Belfry. I was on their sideline (Have been to the Richlands jamboree with Belfry several times). Belfry wasn't that impressive as far as having the athletes this year, very few athletes on that sideline and Richlands was much bigger on the line of scrimage. Saw a little video of Graham / Glenvar this morning and Graham does look improved on the line of scrimmage, still don't know if it's enough to hold off the horses of Richlands, but when you have the kind of speed that Graham has, it doesn't take much. That being said, it will be interesting for sure. Union may be better than Richlands or Graham this season. I'd be willing to bet that it's one of those 3 coming out of Region D this season for sure.
 
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Richlands beat Belfry, KY today 4 touchdowns to 0. For those unfamiliar with the Pirates, they have won 4 straight 3A state titles in Kentucky and have placed over a dozen players in D1 football during that run. From what I've heard, Belfry didn't complete a pass against Richlands. I know Belfry is traditionally a run-based offense, but that's still impressive.

Richlands defense (barring injury) will be unbelievably good this year. Their front 7 are reminiscent of a small college front 7. If the offense comes along, Richlands has every chance of making it far in the playoffs.

They play one of the hardest schedules this side of Roanoke with games @ Union, hosting defending 3A champion Blacksburg @ 4A William Byrd, and traveling to Bluefield, WV. All of those games are in succession. That doesn't include the Graham game later in the season.

Until Graham proves it can mentally beat Richlands, I won't put them ahead of the Blues. They've won ONE matchup with the Blues in the last 12 years and held 3 score leads in both games vs Richlands last year and couldn't close. Richlands is in their head, bad.

Wish I could see that game. It's sure to be a tense slugfest.
Fortunately, for Graham they won't be playing those 12 teams from the past 12 years, they'll be playing this year's team.

If we're talking history, didn't Graham beat Richlands something like 17 out of 18 times just before Richland's streak?

Palmer has turned things around at Graham in a short period of time. As long as that man is in charge, Graham will have a solid team. This is just his 3rd or 4th season at the helm. Graham is nearly back to their prior form. Maybe this is the year that they return to form. I don't know, Lucas doesn't know and none of the Richlands fans know until they play the game on the field. Until then what everybody can do is allow others to support their own team without the attacks on the person or on their team. Sounds like a bunch of babies. Let it be decided on the field. Perhaps we can start a thread to discuss Richlands. I started this thread to find out about the Graham / Glenvar scrimmage. Thank you to those who responded.
 
Well, I know it's fun to talk about who is going to win state or who is going to beat who, but the truth is that none of us truly know as of now because all we have seen is Jamborees and scrimmages which may give you a little bit of an idea of what type of team each school may have, but we just don't know until the real football starts.
But I will say that Union and Graham both scare me to a certain point, but as long as Mance is the coach at Richlands, I like our chances.
The team that I saw last night looked good against both GW and Belfry..........especially the D. Big and hard hitting, the only thing that really worries me is the speed factor. We don't have as much as we have had in the past and that worries me when we face teams that have a lot of it, but there will be very few, if any teams that will push this team around down in the line of scrimmage. The front 7 of the Blues is as good as they have been in a while.
The O looked better at times than what I expected, but they will not be explosive this year, but with the D they will have, they wont have to be. Just move the ball with the running game and make a big play when the opportunity is there and and above all else, keep the turnovers to a minimum.
Just my humble opinion.
But we will all see where our teams actually are in a couple of short weeks.
I agree with this assessment of Richlands 100%. They have a very good line, big and physical. Those type of teams in my opinion are the best teams because they can control the clock and dictate what happens on the field. They will be very hard to deal with. A speedy team like Graham will have to be able to hold those linemen for long enough to get some big plays. A very tall task to ask of any team. Key will be an improved line from Graham, they do look improved, but not sure if they have improved enough. Should be entertaining. As I said before, Bluefield is improved along the line and their QB is more explosive this year. Going to be some good games between those 3. The Union / Richlands game should be entertaining as well. Some good football down that way.
 
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There are at least two teams in Region IV better than Graham this season. Appo and Poquoson are better than any team from Region IV.
 
Only one new transfer a middle linebacker that looks pretty impressive. They did beat Belfry pretty handily, however I didn't see nearly as many athletes for Belfry this year. I believe Belfry will struggle this season. Not as much size up front for Belfry this season either. That being said, Richland's defense looks strong again, Offensively they don't have near the speed they had last year and big play capability but still have good size and a pretty good run game to go with a decent passing game. It's early yet, everybody will improve. Coaches are not trying a whole lot of the at this point. Last year the lineplay of Richlands is what beat Graham. Graham has greasy fast speed, but Richlands got to Graham's athletes at the point if attack. If Graham's line has improved enough to hold blocks long enough for Graham's speedy athletes to get to the 2nd level then it may be a different story this season. Time will tell.
Since I didn't get to see Graham / Glenvar. I went to the Richlands Jamboree yesterday. Went to see Bluefield and Christiansburg this morning. Bluefield scored 2 quick td's in varsity action and took their starters out. Christiansburg should be in for a long season. Bluefield is much improved on the line of scrimmage and Cooper is dangerous at QB. They should be back to form this year.

The matchups between Richlands, Graham and Bluefield should all be good contests. I'll stand by what I said about Belfry. I was on their sideline (Have been to the Richlands jamboree with Belfry several times). Belfry wasn't that impressive as far as having the athletes this year, very few athletes on that sideline and Richlands was much bigger on the line of scrimage. Saw a little video of Graham / Glenvar this morning and Graham does look improved on the line of scrimmage, still don't know if it's enough to hold off the horses of Richlands, but when you have the kind of speed that Graham has, it doesn't take much. That being said, it will be interesting for sure. Union may be better than Richlands or Graham this season. I'd be willing to bet that it's one of those 3 coming out of Region D this season for sure.
Did you see the GW vs Richlands scrimmage?
 
Did you see the GW vs Richlands scrimmage?

Yes I saw GW vs. Richlands. GW had a few decent runs, they struggled with the passing game big time. There were a few times when the receivers were open, but the QB either overthrew or underthrew them. There were a couple of drops also. GW ran the ball pretty well against Belfry, they had several good gainers. I was more focused on Richlands, I don't remember how many scores, however. GW will be fine in 1A. They had good size up front and will have a decent run game. Seems like they were trying to throw it around quite a bit in the first series against Richlands.
 
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Thanks for the info work kept me away. But I'm going to make sure I'm in Pulaski next Friday. Pulaski, Rustburg, Liberty, Galax and GW should be pretty good.
 
There are at least two teams in Region IV better than Graham this season. Appo and Poquoson are better than any team from Region IV.
Having just seen Poq scrimmage WP, I would not put Poq anywhere near the level of App. That is an absurd comment. I am editing this post to state that Poq is no where near the level of last years App team, as I have not seen App this year.
 
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Thanks for the info work kept me away. But I'm going to make sure I'm in Pulaski next Friday. Pulaski, Rustburg, Liberty, Galax and GW should be pretty good.
I wouldn't mind going to that one either. What time does it start?

Also, GW was able to get to the Richlands QB a couple of times. I'll give credit to the QB from Richlands however, he got nailed a couple of times, but was still able to get the pass off to the open receiver, at least one of those went for a TD. The GW and Belfry matchups were quite competitive.
 
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I really didn't mean to hijack this thread, and pretty much agree with everything 19GHS87 has said. Perhaps if I had been blessed with more patience, I could ignore when lucus starts blowing out his tookis.
 
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Richlands beat Belfry, KY today 4 touchdowns to 0. For those unfamiliar with the Pirates, they have won 4 straight 3A state titles in Kentucky and have placed over a dozen players in D1 football during that run. From what I've heard, Belfry didn't complete a pass against Richlands. I know Belfry is traditionally a run-based offense, but that's still impressive.

Richlands defense (barring injury) will be unbelievably good this year. Their front 7 are reminiscent of a small college front 7. If the offense comes along, Richlands has every chance of making it far in the playoffs.

They play one of the hardest schedules this side of Roanoke with games @ Union, hosting defending 3A champion Blacksburg @ 4A William Byrd, and traveling to Bluefield, WV. All of those games are in succession. That doesn't include the Graham game later in the season.

Until Graham proves it can mentally beat Richlands, I won't put them ahead of the Blues. They've won ONE matchup with the Blues in the last 12 years and held 3 score leads in both games vs Richlands last year and couldn't close. Richlands is in their head, bad.

Wish I could see that game. It's sure to be a tense slugfest.

What was the score in the second game last year when Graham had a 3 score lead? I remember the first game but not the second one
 
I really didn't mean to hijack this thread, and pretty much agree with everything 19GHS87 has said. Perhaps if I had been blessed with more patience, I could ignore when lucus starts blowing out his tookis.

What you meant to write was....."I am sorry to hijack this thread, but when anyone picks against Richlands, and when we are not picked first to win each and every game, then I have to speak up because I suffer from a "pick me, pick me" third grade level of maturity."

In summary, I only picked Graham to beat Richlands this year and stated reasons why I felt that way. You can disagree with the reasons and that's all about debate and what a message board is for, but you could not resist. You had to make a personal attack to defend your position which shows........your maturity level is not where it needs to be.

To clarify for the board and to make sure everyone understands this since stormwatcher chose to chime in. Before I get to that, credit Ryan from Richlands who respectfully disagreed with my post, but has the maturity level to do it exactly that....respectfully and well written. As for Stormwatcher, Richlands has 1 state title since 2004. All the state semi appearances and state title appearances, Richlands has 1 title. This tells me from a distance that....they are extremely well coached and do very, very well in their area for a long-long time, but the talent level catches up with them in the semi's and finals games and you can bet their are other great coaches out there in which they meet up with in the semi's and finals and thus, the coaching disparity is neutralized, then with all things equal or close to equal, it's a talent contest, and this is where Richlands has trouble. Again, this is why I pick Graham. I know far to many people from Blacksburg to Lebanon that have told me Graham has always had talent, yet they had a coaching problem since the passing of Coach Carlock, and the same people tell me, they now have a coach that gets kids out to play and knows how to utilize his talent. This is why I pick Graham. When the coaching disparity with Richlands and a team like Graham is close to equal, it becomes a talent contest, and Graham of Bluefield has had that talent year in and year out since the 1950's.

Finally, Belfry, Kentucky is a powerhouse and credit Richlands for beating them up in a scrimmage. I repeat....Belfry has the worst football teams its had in 15 years. Does that mean they will be bad? Heck no, still a semi final Kentucky team. Does that mean they will not be pre-season top 1 or 2 at their level? Heck no, they have won many state titles in a row, and it does not matter what you lose, if you win so many state titles in a row, you will be ranked that high. But again, from the Belfry fans, they lost 23 seniors and have never lost this many seniors in one class and by their standards, they are down as much as they have been in 15 years. I repeat, congrats Richlands, but not the same team that has been getting the best of you the past few years in scrimmages as they are this year.

Conclusion. I simply picked Graham to beat Richlands this year and nothing more. This made one Richlands fans angry and he went on the attack mode.....and I finished....with a reminder of how many state titles the mighty Blues have won since they became relevant in Virginia High School Football.
 
This tells me from a distance that....they are extremely well coached and do very, very well in their area for a long-long time, but the talent level catches up with them in the semi's and finals games and you can bet their are other great coaches out there in which they meet up with in the semi's and finals and thus, the coaching disparity is neutralized, then with all things equal or close to equal, it's a talent contest, and this is where Richlands has trouble. Again, this is why I pick Graham.
I'm sure. We all know you're an expert at measuring talent.
From Oct. 22, 2016--
...I still believe......that Graham will win the state title. They actually have MORE talent than Appo in my opinion and they are actually faster than Appo. Graham may lose the first round by 20 points for all I know. But.....they are my pick to win the whole thing.
 
What was the score in the second game last year when Graham had a 3 score lead? I remember the first game but not the second one
Graham was only up 10-0 before things fell apart in the 2nd one. Ended up losing 34-16. Tried to run it too much at the heart of that defense. Richlands took away the edge and Graham couldn't get any run game going. Not making excuses, but Cooke got a turned ankle in the game against Martinsville and that didn't help their cause. Richlands dominated the line of scrimmage and that's what won that 2nd game for them.
 
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