She’s really not a bad person at all, just a little worked up over a perceived slight towards her son.
Graham vs Glenvar
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I don't know where you come from, but if you write a book, I'll buy one. You've got drama, comedy, and a puzzle mystery of new words to unscramble all in one. I'm hoping the Gmen can't get that cleveland steemer started dawg. That's how I want it2b.
I think maybe as a whole yeh. But top teams i just didnt see region D having one. We shall see. Like i said im probably wrong anyway. Just my limited viewing opinion for this year.
A lot worked up...I can see defending your child for a perceived slight, but good grief..... she may need professional help..
I fil u cuz. First 1 2 git tone set gonna win it an 1 way 2do it is jus ter up that hole playgrounds and fun over. A big ole steemers is good way 2doit. Problems is both of em voted up on ringzso sunthins got2give out thar
I don’t even think you’re wrong about 2D lacking an elite team but 1-5 could compete with any other region.
2A is a bit down overall in my opinion but Region D has the most depth. I believe region B is a really close second and seems to be closing the gap right now. A never seems to have depth and C was its weakest in many years.
I also think this Graham team is pretty close to elite. If they had better offensive coaching they easily could be. Still immensely talented for this level of football. If anyone beats them, it will be through sheer will and coaching.
Everyone rags on Unions offensive coaching but I think Grahams is only slightly better. Hence the slightly better outcomes in the individual match ups.
I also think this Graham team is pretty close to elite. If they had better offensive coaching they easily could be. Still immensely talented for this level of football. If anyone beats them, it will be through sheer will and coaching.
Everyone rags on Unions offensive coaching but I think Grahams is only slightly better. Hence the slightly better outcomes in the individual match ups.
Offensively, I agree with you about the coaching. Defensively, Dennis Palmer is outstanding.
I think with this year, it’s the first time in a long time there’s not that one big superstar playmaker to carry the offense for Graham. They do have some very athletic talented players who can bust out a good play. I do like the fact they’ve tried to develop a short/intermediate passing game which had really been nonexistent. The Roberts kid has improved greatly since game one this season. The Lilly kid is a workhorse running that wildcat. On the defensive side, Graham’s defense always seems ahead of the offense and the defensive coaching staff is very knowledgeable, make adjustments, and teach those young men how to anticipate rather than sit back & react. In my opinion, Graham’s defense is what beat Union this year in the regular season & playoffs. I’m hoping that defense can beat Glenvar. It’s a tall order with Glenvar’s QB. He’s accurate and reads the field well. It will be interesting to see if he gets time to throw and if he’s pressured how he responds.
I agree. I thínk a lot is riding on how well Glenvar's QB handles pressure, because Graham will bring pressure and lots of it. Lebanon's QB did well under pressure, despite being rushed almost the entire game and sacked 11 times. He still managed to make some good throws under heavy préssure and make the game interesting. Graham's offense has improved somewhat since that game. I don't expect Graham to have 11 sacks, but I do expect a ton of pressure and I expect tight coverage from Grahams DBs. Graham doesn't give up much rushing yardage to teams that rush the ball well. It is no secret that Glenvar will throw. Not sure if the receivers can create the separation they are used to getting against a very fast Graham secondary. Their best bet is with short, Intermediate passes, quick hitters, screens, etc .. if they can do that well, they have a chance
Region A will definitely be a lot deeper next year with the addition of Thomas Jefferson and Armstrong. They went 12-1 and 10-2, respectively, in class 3 this year.
Reg D may be down some IDK? But not as down as Reg C this year. I mean Radford won the whole thing last year, but lost a lot to graduation. Appomattox is still down. Gretna isn't there yet. Glenvar was the best team in a weaker Reg. I saw Glenvar against Alleghany, and the Highlanders didn't matchup well. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think Glenvar will be able to match Graham's physicality and will probably wear down in the 2nd half.
I hope you’re right but it’s football and they are kids, with kids anything can happen! It’s why we play the game! No team ends up in a state semifinal because they stink! I hope it’s a good one! For one group of Seniors it will be their last game for the other, their next to last so I hope both sides soak it all in, have fun, & play their hearts out!
I agree on Grahams physicality and 2nd half having an effect on Glenvar. Glenvar is hoping for or needs a key early Graham turnover or 2 and get a lead of 10 points and carry that momentum into the 3rd and 4th that overcomes Grahams physicality which is likely by the mid to late 3rd. Graham will be trying to prevent early mistakes and big plays that gives Glenvar a lead, and then riding that into the mid 3rd qtr where physicality becomes a factor.
I'm not sold on Region D being down a bit. Region B was the deepest region this year but Graham and Union aren't as emotionally stimulating as a Glenvar or potent offensive team because Union and Graham play great defense and they are both heavy run. That's not always pretty in this offensive age, but it's deceiving to think it's not effective. The 2 teams that played last weekend in Bluefield are elite Class 2 teams in my opinion. Both could lose by 3 TDS to other Class 2 top teams or win by 3 TDs. I have no idea, but I do know this. The front 5 from tackle to tackle on O for Union and Graham and their front 4 on defense are as good as it gets in Class 2, even in 2024.
Trust me on this...4get about last year... cold weather... playing at Mitchell....ALL TEAMS R GOOD IN THE FINAL 4. MISTAKES...KEY PENALTIES...TURNOVERS... SHANK PUNTS... MISSED P.A,T.S.. I SEE THIS AS A WHOS GOT THE BALL LAST...
Can’t beat a playoff game that comes down to who has the ball last! Going to be a fun one to watch for sure!
GMen had teem meet ups huor ago. Votes plased to hit hard. Decizon made that each hit gonna have 2B hard cauz Glanver likes fancy football and u got2 hitem reel hard when u play teamz like that. Tyson an Klicko an Lenard Lewis all hit hard an GMen has2 doit 2. It's gonna be strait Dedazzz!
I don't think they needed to vote on that, Graham is known for being physical and hitting hard. I'm sure Glenvar is aware of the physical nature of how Graham plays. I'm sure they will be prepared. I hope Graham is prepared for a different type of offense. Lebanon played a similar style and it caused some problems. the DB's can't let the receivers get behind them and the Free Safety is going to have to play deep. The thing about hitting hard is Newton's 3rd Law, you get just as much force back to you as you dish out, Graham at least is used to delivering the hits and receiving the blow back.
I would tend to agree with this. The starting QB has struggled with throwing downfield. He tends to throw into double coverage when he throws it deep. They have went to more bubble screens, curls and quick hitters as the season has went on, with the passing game. If I'm Graham, I'm coming out with Lilly, Isabelle and Palmer in the backfield and making Glenvar stop that train... Hill is too valuable on defense. The thing about that is, Palmer ran the wildcat some last week and it worked well. You could have Lilly and Isabelle blocking for Palmer and I think it will be very effective. I don't think that will happen, however. Graham usually comes out with Roberts throwing the ball around, mixed with some QB runs and Palmer carrying the ball some in the first half, then going to Lilly in the wildcat in the 2nd half. I say, Power Run all day. That's where most of Graham's success has been this season. If you get in a bind, then bring in the QB on 2nd and long or 3rd and long and get it to your playmakers in space. Anyway, I guess we will see what transpires. This game has me nervous, the QB for Glenvar is dangerous.
One thing I noticed about Glenvar when i watched wat limited film i could find, was that they didn't seem to have much team speed. Not saying they looked slow. But maybe seen one kid, was a receiver, that looked pretty fast. But I Kno how deceptive video can be. Esp for me. My eyes sure arent getting any better
But also, it doesn't look like graham has the speed they usually have. Maybe Edwards their fastest guy. And just guessing, he may be around a 4.6 4.7. again this is all video, as i haven't watched any live football this year. Thinking about coming up for this game tho and showing support for the good ole southwest district
VCU pep band popularized this in VA a while back. They stole it from some HBCU marching bands, but yeah, it’s fun. Pretty much every HS band in Richmond plays it.
Awesome. That's it. I notice they are at the old Richmond Coliseum. I loved watching the Richmond Renegades play Hockey there, back in the day.
With #65 for Graham being out for the season, how will that change the GMen’s defense?
I seen quotes from Coach Palmer saying that he had the two best defensive linemen (#35 & #65) in the state.
There’s been posts on here saying Graham didn’t really have many capable backup linemen. Who will replace him?
What do yall think they will do? With him being out does that give Glenvar any advantages?
I seen quotes from Coach Palmer saying that he had the two best defensive linemen (#35 & #65) in the state.
There’s been posts on here saying Graham didn’t really have many capable backup linemen. Who will replace him?
What do yall think they will do? With him being out does that give Glenvar any advantages?
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I hate it for the kid (Williamson #65). He’s had a breakout season on the D-line. As far as what Graham is going to do, no clue. I’m guessing maybe shifting one of the others over and subbing in & out for whomever gets shifted over to replace Williamson. There just aren’t many to sub in & out. I think most defensive line subs are starting O- linemen. Tomorrow will tell the tale! Graham has always had next man up mentality so we’ll see who steps up!
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64 is Hendricks. 65 is Williamson who I think you’re referring to. 25 Jones will play more snaps. I think 75 is mainly on the O line but he’ll rotate in some.
Sorry, I got the numbers mixed up. #h
Thanks for the correction.
Speaking of #25 (Jones), I was just told recently that he is the son of former Hokie & 1st round draft pick Kevin Jones.
I think that means Graham has 3 former NFL players’ sons on their roster. Is that correct?
Thanks for the correction.
Speaking of #25 (Jones), I was just told recently that he is the son of former Hokie & 1st round draft pick Kevin Jones.
I think that means Graham has 3 former NFL players’ sons on their roster. Is that correct?
I believe Kevin Jones is now coaching at Bluefield State thus his son transferred to Graham. The younger Jones has really improved this season.
I agree. He has really made some progress at Graham from the beginning of the season. He has made quite a few good plays on defense.
I told Bradshaw B4 he got 2 tha leeg he had to focis on ringz. He votes 2 times to getem and 2 times he gotem
One more sleep until the big game! I can’t wait to see how these two teams match up! Should be a great one! Wishing Glenvar folks safe travels! See you there! Go GMen!
The GMan on field to step up 4 Williamson is kep secrit. They keep him in a cage all weak long an pokes sticks on him. He's still in thar rite now. I tried 2 walk by oh boy in teem room 2day an they woodnt let me neer him. Said he's just to dangeruz He's being let out at kick off and oh boy is strait up agressive and Dedazzz!
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I'd take that challenge. I’ll take Region B’s 8 playoff teams against Region Ds 8 and feel pretty confident in having a better outcome. Even limited to each Regions top 4-5, I like Region Bs chances. But that is shear speculation and I am a Region B homer
.Now that I think about it, how much fun would it be if the playoffs matched 1-8 from Regions instead of the current set up? Find out which region has the better team in each seeded spot, then let the "winners' of each seeded spot play in quarters and so forth...
Something like this:
First round (just hypothetical winners to fill the bracket so calm down
—R-A #8 JM v. R-B #8 Madison Co.
R-C #8 Martinsville v. R-D #8 Lee
R-A #7 KW v. R-B #7 Fort Defiance
R-C #7 Patrick v. R-D #7 Gate City
R-A #6 Nottoway v. R-B #6 Stuarts Draft
R-C #6 Nelson v. R-D #6 Tazewell
R-A #5 Greenville v. R-B #5 Woodstock
R-C #5 Appomattox v. R-D #5 Lebanon
R-A #4 Central L v. R-B #4 Buckingham
R-C #4 Floyd v. R-D#4 VHS
R-A #3 Bruton v. R-B #3 Riverheads
R-C #3 Gretna v. R-D #3 Ridgeview
R-A #2 Southampton v. R-B #2 Strasburg
R-C #2 Radford v. R-D #2 Union
R-A #1 Poquoson v. R-B #1 Clarke County
R-C #1 Glenvar v. R-D #1 Graham
Second Round (winners become the "state seed" in the quarters and beyond)—
R- B #8 Madison v. R- D #8 Lee
R-A #7 KW v. R-D #7 Gate City
R- B #6 Draft v. R-C #6 Nelson
R- B #5 Woodstock v. R- C #5 Appomattox
R-B #4 Buckingham v. R-D #4 VHS
R-B #3 Riverheads v. R-D #3 Gretna
R-B #2 Strasburg v. R-C #2 Radford
R-A #1 Poquoson v. R-D #1 Graham
Quarterfinals —
#8 Madison v. #1 Graham
#7 King William v. #2 Strasburg
#6 Stuarts Draft v. #3 Riverheads
#5 Appomattox v. #4 Buckingham
Semi Final —
#1 Graham v. #5 Appomattox
#2 Strasburg v. #3 Riverheads
Finals —
# 1 Graham v. #2 Strasburg
Just doing this for fun. I can hear some getting all worked over the #1's playing in the first and second round against each other, but they have to play eventually anyway. And who's to say that one Regions #1 is equal to other(s)? Honestly, I'd still put Clarke County up against most any other team left in the playoffs.
This type of format would make those 1st and 2nd round games much more competitive...especially avoiding some of the absolute blowouts in most 1 v. 8 matchups in current round 1. Then we would know (kind of) which region was stronger top to bottom. And it avoids rematches until the last 2 rounds at the earliest...if at all.
Lebanon bears Appomattox this year and Union beats Radford, IMO.
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