I know someone asked this year in a post and for the Sherando people who inquired @hamspear
http://www.starexponent.com/sports/...cle_e8a12fdb-b8db-5181-ad45-804263ae2b06.html
http://www.starexponent.com/sports/...cle_e8a12fdb-b8db-5181-ad45-804263ae2b06.html