Isn't the Highland Springs/Colonial Forge game huge this week? Surprised there's not a thread on this....unless I'm missing it.
HS vs CF
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Wouldn’t mind checking this game out but I rather watch hs play Varina I got hs winning out and to be 10-0 this season
I think Colonial Forge can keep it close for about a half but Loren will make them adjustments he is famous for and HS will pull away and win by 3 scores. But if HS comes out flat and has TOs like they did against Manchester they could lose. I don't see CF mailing it in like Manchester did.
I agree. I picked Forge for the upset because HS's offense hasn't dominated the good defenses they faced thus far and Forge is traditionally stout on defense. Although I'm not confident in my pick, I think there's a small chance Forge can pull it out if the scores are low.
I’m sorry,but I don’t remember Manchester “mailing it in”. I remember HSHS taking care of the ball,using their depth,and playing 4 quarters,not 2. HSHS has played the toughest schedule in the state,so they’re more than battle tested. CForge is well tested too,so let’s sit back & watch these 2 great football teams SETTLE it on the field. No speculation....
Varina will be the better game. Would like to catch the Forge game Friday but traffic is a you know what on Friday’s from Richmond to Northern Virginia.
Ok maybe mailing it in might be too strong. But I thought they got conservative before halftime and after. No speculation on a message board is no fun! Haha Go Springers!
That's barely NOVA! You might even have a faster drive than me from Arlington.
I hope RVA Sports Production does this game on YouTube!
I think if Forge could contain Ponax's running game, they should be able to contain HS's and make HS beat them through the air. Their defense should keep this a low scoring game. Special teams might be the deciding factor!
I think if Forge could contain Ponax's running game, they should be able to contain HS's and make HS beat them through the air. Their defense should keep this a low scoring game. Special teams might be the deciding factor!
I am sure that Ponax doesn't have a O line or D line quite like HS's!...and trust and believe that HS has a more than capable pass attack too. they can pick their poison! Forge will have to score more than 2 tds to be us. So far, nobody has done that.... Manchester had 2 tds (and a fg). It wasn't enough! The toughest team we've played is Oscar Smith, they only scored 6 on us..
I do disagree to a point. Manchester: Had it not been for HS's unusual mistakes with ball handling in the 1st half, this game wouldn't have been close! HS dominated them in the 2nd half with solid adjustments, the outscored
them 26-0 in the half and stuffed the Lancer offense! Same with Smith! OS lead 6-0 at halftime.,HS again with solid adjustments dominated the 2nd half! Ball control and dominated the 3fd qtr. posse@ing the ball all but 3 plays of the quarter. The domination continued in the 4th stealing the lead 13-6 and kept the ball away and out of the Tigers hands to ice the game and victory.HS has shown that they know how to win close games! That's what great teams do against tough competition!
Quick question has hs been in a game or games where they couldn’t run as much , but had to air it out majority of the game , I haven’t seen forge play this year but I’m thinking if they stopped ponax run game it’s a few reason why they have a really really defense, and ponax passing game isn’t the main focus of there offense , running is, so that being said do u think hs can literally throw the ball the whole game because it might have to come down to that
The difference is... HS has as balanced an offense as you will see. They have not been shut down with their run offense, because they mix it up with timely, accurate passes.
The offensive line is 2nd to none and can operate like a machine. HS's qb is one of the best athletes in Virginia and has a very high football IQ... He is extremely smart carrying right around a 4.0 GPA in the classroom too.
HS ran the ball effectivly on Oscar Smith..they have one of the best defenses in the State! HS is getting better every week too. As is everybody!
HS's D line is better than Ponax's, but Ponax's O line is much better than HS's. The main reason Ponax struggled last week is they fumbled twice and lost both, and threw a pick.
I think Forge is a great team. The biggest difference will be coaching and making adjustments! HS will take is the favorite in this matchup.
Ponax runs the triple option. They only had 65 yards on 12 completions in the game vs CF. CF didn’t have to respect the Ponax passing game,so they stacked the “box” to stop the run. You can’t do that with HSHS. HSHS can run or throw behind an offensive line that is playing together for the 3rd year in a row. They run block and pass block equally. They’ve dominated 7 on 7s for the last few years,so they can throw it all over the yard to those 3 D1 WRs. This OLine showed they could line up & play smash mouth vs Maury last year. They always seem to have another fresh RB every time the offense comes out. You gotta respect the run and the pass,and you better be able to pass or run against them.
The biggest thing I’ve noticed is,HSHS’s defense really adjusts to take away the run or the pass & make teams one dimensional.
They are very deep & disciplined on both sides of the ball.
In addition HS also runs a more proficient offense. No disrespect but Ponax runs a rec league offense even Stone Bridge when they played HS last year realized they had to come out of that primitive offense. Woodside will suffer the same fate in playoffs when they play Maury or Salem.
Yo he said rec league offense lol damn lol
Speed kills! CF didn’t score til late in the 4th qtr. Springers had WAY too much speed tonight! Let’s hope the Varsity is the same Friday night.
I like HS with the win in this one but Forge is no walk over and an upset wouldn’t surprise me. For starters Forge is traditionally a well coached and very discipline team. They don’t beat themselves, they know how to win. They have a lot of kids with big game experience and they’re upperclassmen heavy. A lot of respect for Coach Brown and his staff they do an exceptional job scheming and making adjustments, one of the best in the state. 2 they run a complex 3-4 scheme similar to MHS. I’m sure they have that game film. 3 they’re at Forge, hostile environment everybody’s on the payroll and I mean everybody. HS can’t get into a close game with this team. Just go out and spank them early don’t get into a dog fight with this team because they’ll have some outside help if it’s close js!
Stop it people trying to hype this game up. Yes everyone knows Oscar Smith, Varina, Manchester and Colonial Forge are great programs, you can't take that away from them, BUT do you think anyone of them can beat a "motivated" Highland Springs team? If you look at their schedule there are plenty of games to get motivated for because people start talking this upset stuff. Is there any team left on their schedule that has a "Division 1 RB, QB, Receiver" combination that's talented enough to put too many points on the board for the Springers to overcome? The only team in the last couple of years that's worth the discussion of actually being able to have a chance to beat them was last year's Manchester team and that game got sign up a year too late. Just my opinion.
Worthy of discussion? Come on, are you serious? Of course HS should beat Forge this week, but speaking of a possible upset isn't blasphemy. HS is rightfully #1 in the state this year and favored to win every game on the best VA public schedule in recent memory. HS's streak is amazing and even more so this year because they are playing unfamiliar opponents and still winning. I know I'm in the minority, but if anything, the results on the field this year should show HS could possibly lose a game in the next two weeks, and certainly hypothetically speaking against the great teams of the past. OS and Manchester are great programs but they are clearly not loaded with D1 talent this year, compared to teams they've had in the past. Give some credit to them for making HS work for their wins and possibly causing HS to make uncharacteristic mistakes. It wasn't that long ago when Forge shocked Class 6 and upset an Ocean Lakes team that was more high profile than HS. Forge (and similarly Westfiled) aren't typically loaded with crazy talent across the board in any given season, but they have pushed OS's best teams to the limit. Like HS, Forge and Westfield are blessed with top tier coaches and they know how to bring it. Personally, I'm excited to witness HS break records and I'm enjoying the attention HS is beginning to bring to VA football. But if you want to compare recent history, I think HS's on field results against 2019 OS and Manchester, makes Manchester 2018 look more untouchable and gives them a strong case for the best of this decade and maybe the 2000s.
Well I would have to say if HS meets Maury again this year should be a different story or better game than last which Maury does has a possible D1 QB which he is a JR that's why I say possible but the do have 4 D1 WRs and a D1 RB plus a vastly improved defensive and offensive line so should they meet it should be a hell of a game. I would give HS the edge but this years Maury team is hungry looking for that rematch
What tells you that Maury has 4 D1 WRs? They don’t have a D1 QB! He’s not as good as last year’s QB....not even close! What offense compares to HSHS’s that tells you they can stop HSHS’s offense?! HSHS’s depth up front is even better this year. The starting lines are ALL back too. HSHS faces a hungry team every week,looking to knock them off & break that streak.
There’s a few weeks to go and a few teams looking to face SB in the finals.
How do you make that comparison based on the DRASTICALLY weaker schedule that Manchester played last year compared to HS’s schedule this year?!
Quite honestly....I still think last year’s HS team was 2 TDs better than a Manchester’s,but we’ll never know.
Well one because they all 4 signed to D1 schools then two the QB has been on visit to D1 schools three every dog has its day and from what I seen from HS is that they can be by the right school like I say this team is better and more equipped to play them this year
But I do give HS major props on that their massive offensive and defensive line because they do wear teams down as the game goes but i feel if a team can contain them lines well in to the 2nd half of a game plus get a good lead would be the major key in beating them
Manchester 2018 team was good but best of the decade you are crazy. First off who did they play last year that was even worth mentioning. Class 6 us weaker than class 5 and Westfield was down last year. Don't forget in 2017 in Brendan Clarke Manchester QB junior year they got killed by Forge 55-21. They got some transfers in last year that allowed them to get over the top in a weak class 6 playoffs. Highland Springs for last four years have had to go through a gauntlet. HS 2018 squad would have have beat Manchester last year and HS 2015 squad would have destroyed them with Dortch(Wake Forest WR), Carter(NSU QB), Becton(Louisville OL), and Walllace(Clemson DB).
Sounds like they might finally match up with the 5 D1 DBs HS has. Question remains with that DLine HS has. I’ve seen Maury and this QB is nowhere near as good as last year’s! Sorry,but not even close! HSHS’s QB holds a ND offer,and is a major dual threat throwing to 3 D1 WRs too. That same OLine is back to run behind.
Question is...can Maury get past Salem?!
The same salem team everyone sees every year........yeah salem yes they have a good defense which is hard to gauge since they are really a step above everyone in a down district this but there offense is one dimensional stop the run force them to pass which has never been their strength at all.
I agree,but it’s hard to gauge Maury with their weak schedule too!
Can he get them through if forced to?! Last year’s could (til he faced HSHS’s front 6).
Like I said from what i seen both team are around the same till it hits the line play maurys lines are vastly improved are they good enough to give HS fits IDK but I do see these team playing a actually competitive game going to the 4th this year if they meet up. And I've said I give HS the edge but I wouldn't be surprised if these guy can pull it off.
The only comparison is what I used earlier...2019 Manchester, with far less seniors and talent than 2018 Manchester went toe to toe with HS in 2019. Unless you can make an argument HS 2019 is a drop off from last year, which would be a first, because all we hear is how HS gets better and better each year, that's the only comparison I can make. Manchester's 2018 schedule may have been weaker, but there is no denying that team was a machine and they left no doubt on the field. I'm no Manchester supporter, but they bullied everybody they faced.
Its all speculation and fun debating these hypothetical matchups. Most of us saw the article last year talking about Manchester's transfers and to a lesser extent HS's. We just have to agree to disagree. I think 2018 Manchester was the best Va team I've seen in years, and I was surprised they could unify a team with that number of transfer so quickly. I wouldn't consider Westfield down last year, they just lost their QB who has played lights out in previous years playoffs and couldn't replace him when they needed to. Why was class 6 weaker? Because Westfield went home early? Or because OS and Ocean Lakes didn't have the coaches and deep talent we were used to seeing? I'm a 757 guy but will admit Class 6 is hardly a cakewalk for the 757 loaded teams because of what some NOVA schools can bring, as I mentioned above.
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D1 this D1 that. The game ain’t played at camps or combines, 7on7 tournaments. NOBODY CARES!! Having D1 players don’t win ball games, a group of well coached and discipline young men doing their jobs does.
If you think last year’s Manchester team would boat race through this year’s HSHS schedule,you’re delusional! 7 of the 9 teams were playoff teams last year(Avalon doesn’t have playoffs). HSHS doesn’t have a practice field anymore and ALL games are on the road. Stop paying attention to scores! HSHS is not trying to beat teams bad! They are trying to navigate a land mine schedule,use as much depth as possible,and stay as healthy as possible for the playoffs run. Do you realize,the STARTING QB(Jones)has sat out of 2 games and only played 2 FULL games? In 4 other games, he’s only played 2 drives in the first quarter. They aren’t trying to “bully” anyone. The FULL STARTING D shut Manchester out! That same D was there last year plus the state DPOY!
It’s not that hard to beat JRiver,Midlothian,and Huguenot. The best 757 D6 team was beaten handily by Maury last year. We all saw what HSHS did to Maury!
Schedules can be telling! Ask Woodside!
