Northside hires Scott Fisher to replace one year head coach Tyler Brown! Program must be in shambles, to hire a middle school coach to run the program! There were whispers and rumors of some good coaches that had applied! I wonder what happen! The fall was hard from the Torrence era! Should be interesting to see the outcome of their season with one of the toughest schedule in the area! You have to question if what is going on at northside!
Northside' new head coach!!!!
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All of the evidence sure points to a school, an administration, and an entire school system in total denial and absolute disarray. Certainly the athletic program at Northside.
But the same adults that allowed it to get to this point, are the same ones responsible for fixing the problems. So, should a better outcome be expected?
But the same adults that allowed it to get to this point, are the same ones responsible for fixing the problems. So, should a better outcome be expected?
DP, I try to be positive but honest.. I'd give this hire a C-. Sounds like a great players coach. I'm skeptical of hiring non educators as coaches though. I hope I'm wrong. He sounds as if the community respects him so I wish him the best.
Yes sir, I share your hope. Those poor kids deserve for someone to make a "good" decision on their behalf. Maybe Coach Fisher is exactly the right person at the right time. He deserves support and a chance. But, I fear that they have put him in a position to fail, not succeed.
I actually like the hire. Will it work? I have no idea, but he's respected by the community and sounds vested for the long haul. He played at Northside and then Carson Newman. He was an assistant under Torrence from 09-13. He was the head coach at Hidden Valley MS. Two of his sons played football at Northside with another one playing currently. He will be a substitute teacher a couple of days a week while running his financial services business.
The administration at Northside and the Roanoke Co schoolboard have work to do in resolving the issues that Dent, Torrence, and others caused. Hopefully Fisher's efforts won't be sabotaged and dragged down by the mess that was created and the aftermath of how it was handled.
http://www.roanoke.com/sports/high_...cle_aa05d71f-7d15-532b-b1c5-99dc70a956db.html
The administration at Northside and the Roanoke Co schoolboard have work to do in resolving the issues that Dent, Torrence, and others caused. Hopefully Fisher's efforts won't be sabotaged and dragged down by the mess that was created and the aftermath of how it was handled.
http://www.roanoke.com/sports/high_...cle_aa05d71f-7d15-532b-b1c5-99dc70a956db.html
This in my humble opinion is a when all else fails hire. There were certainly multiple more qualified candidates than the individual they ultimately selected without question. There are reasons (that may never be known) why other coaches that had the experience and resume to make a impact at Northside chose to steer away from this job which on the surface seems like and should be a great job. I noticed the article posted mentions Fisher having a lot of community support which is nice to hear but we will see how long the honey moon last if he is unable to compete and has more seasons like last year. The system at Northside is in shambles for sure from bottom to top and no one at any level seems at this point to be able to figure things out or willing to step up and do what it may take to right the ship. Hopefully at some point they do figure it out and Northside can and will be competitive again but that may not be any time soon unfortunately. Good luck.
Staying within that same Burt Torrence coaching tree is an interesting move to say the least. This to me is a very similar hire to their last hire and although he stated he is in it for 10 years, only time will tell. I wonder what his reasoning for leaving the program in 2013 was...
However, Hiring the "players coach" has become the trend lately. A lot of the hires throughout the state this year seem to have been driven by how relatable a coach is to the student body or how "likable" a coach is over actual credentials and resume as a coach. I guarantee you that every serious applicant for the job had more coaching experience than 4/5 years as an assistant and a year as a MS head coach. Goes back to the old adage, "It's not the x's and o's, it's the jimmys and joes." If he is well liked by the kids, they will come out. If kids have fun, they will come out. The more kids that are out, the better the chance of having a few special athletes to make a real impact. If you get the kids out, get the ball in the right kid's hands, and keep the team morale up throughout the season you have a chance to be successful.
At the same time, I don't like that he already stated they will run a spread offense and 4-3 defense on day one of his hiring. I think coaches who are unwilling to change what they do for their players are less successful unless they have a program built and mold their players to fit into it. I suppose his spread offense could take many shapes but he sounded like he wants to throw the ball from the roanoke times article.
A very interesting hire to say the least. I definitely thought we would get a big name from outside of the programs previous coaching tree. Hopefully he does well.
However, Hiring the "players coach" has become the trend lately. A lot of the hires throughout the state this year seem to have been driven by how relatable a coach is to the student body or how "likable" a coach is over actual credentials and resume as a coach. I guarantee you that every serious applicant for the job had more coaching experience than 4/5 years as an assistant and a year as a MS head coach. Goes back to the old adage, "It's not the x's and o's, it's the jimmys and joes." If he is well liked by the kids, they will come out. If kids have fun, they will come out. The more kids that are out, the better the chance of having a few special athletes to make a real impact. If you get the kids out, get the ball in the right kid's hands, and keep the team morale up throughout the season you have a chance to be successful.
At the same time, I don't like that he already stated they will run a spread offense and 4-3 defense on day one of his hiring. I think coaches who are unwilling to change what they do for their players are less successful unless they have a program built and mold their players to fit into it. I suppose his spread offense could take many shapes but he sounded like he wants to throw the ball from the roanoke times article.
A very interesting hire to say the least. I definitely thought we would get a big name from outside of the programs previous coaching tree. Hopefully he does well.
Northside had a chance to get a name coach who would have been a great fit for them and the players, he decided to withdraw his name for reasons unknown. With the exception of Salem the other teams in the area are glad he withdrew his name, he would have brought a tough , physical brand of football. As many of you have said on here before be careful what you ask for well the NS community has gotten what you have asked for good or bad.
I don't know whether it was a good hire or not. Only time will tell. But to address the previous comment about the trend towards hiring "players coaches". I wonder if any of that has to do with the falling numbers that have hurt so many programs. In order to win you have to have players, but you also have to be able to coach those kids hard once they are out for the team.
I suspect that Coach Fisher is old school in his approach considering his college experience and the success of his first two sons. If he can get the right kids out and then coach em up, then this might be a great hire. Just my two cents.
I suspect that Coach Fisher is old school in his approach considering his college experience and the success of his first two sons. If he can get the right kids out and then coach em up, then this might be a great hire. Just my two cents.
Sometimes you take gut chances. The strange part is that they can often work out as well if not better. The only thing to do at this point is give support and hope for the best.
Personally, I would like to see everything that happened at Northside prior to be placed on the table for all to see. You cannot move forward while the past continuously peers over your shoulder.
Personally, I would like to see everything that happened at Northside prior to be placed on the table for all to see. You cannot move forward while the past continuously peers over your shoulder.
Shauntclair, you are exactly right! The problem in North Roanoke county is that they sold thier soul to win football games! Dent and Torrence had free reign to do what ever they wanted, leaving a path of destruction everywhere! Now they act like nothing ever happen! Just going through motions like no one ever notice! Honestly, I think the AD is a Dent hold over! He was hired by Dent and surprise he is still there! I wonder if he is in over his head! I think is time for the Northside and North Roanoke to stop the smoke show and come clean! Some say, Sometimes the only way up is hitting rock bottom first!
