All the teams have a good passing game. None of the boring Wing T stuff.
One good thing about Final 4 in West
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You are referring to Giles and not Glenvar in the West that runs the single wing. Clarke runs the single wing in the East.
I'm pretty sure they both run a variation of the single wing. If not, what does Glenvar run?
Glenvar is a primarily a run team out of the pistol type formations and then will hit a play action pass out of it for a long gainer. They have a more ball control type offense with Manns up the middle left and right and the QB, Clifford will run it wide every now and then too. They will try to roll the QB out on play action and run pass option plays to hit one down the field. Glenvar is not as concerned about their offense, but rather they definitely play more of a defensive strategy of football. they plan to stop the opposing offense and then get good field position. They try to hit a big play on offense down the field to Stigall or Stanley, but they are not a spread team.
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Thanks for the clarification @observingthegame. I was trying to tell @lovemesomeweezy that Glenvar was run oriented
Oh I knew that glenvar was run oriented. I was just saying that glenvar didn't run the single wing or a version of it. All good.
Yeah, I thought Glenvar and Union was a single wing/wing T type offense until i watch film on this early in the year.
Of all the SWVA teams, who runs the Single Wing/Wing T other than Giles? I know Staunton River 3A, William Campbell 1A runs it too.
Of all the SWVA teams, who runs the Single Wing/Wing T other than Giles? I know Staunton River 3A, William Campbell 1A runs it too.
Crap, forgot about them and we played them this year. LOL
Nelson County ran it last couple of years, but they did away with it this year. I lift weights sometimes with a Nelson coach and he said they didnt have the athletes this year to run it.
I got my first chance at seeing it last Friday. Instantly hated it honestly. Of course it has worked great for them.
Sign me up on that single wing hate list too! Always have and probably always will
Giles is the only 2A team in SWVA that runs a true single wing that I'm aware of. Not sure about wing T. John Battle ran a wing t/double wing formation a couple of years ago.
Union runs an old fashioned, full house, power T formation in addition to the spread and pro set
Forgot to mention, Riverheads runs it just as well as Giles. It so hard to find that ball. The wishbone and single wing/T is stuff they ran for years in pro and college football back 50 years ago.
I like single wing better than wing t. at least in single wing, it doesn't have a QB under center. I hate any offense that QB gets under center. (and usually those QBs have to run to sideline to get play.)
You may be right about some teams running the QB to the sideline but RHS subs a TE every play to bring the play call in. I have never understood wasting the time and QB's energy going to the sideline every play. HR6, I know you want all spread teams that score in under a minute but 1A and to a lesser degree 2A generally speaking does not have that many playmakers on any one team. It does happen occasionally but not on a regular basis.
2A teams are loaded with playmakers this season. Union, Appomattox and Glenvar have them, and I assume Richlands does also. I have not seen Richlands play yet.
Yep, Richlands has them for sure. You saw Union. Just imagine Union throwing more with a VERY accurate QB and a better defense, and that's what you get with Richlands.
Union and Richlands are actually very similar in regards to size, strength, and skill players.
I had been hearing about the size that Richlands has but I read an article from the Herald Courier (I believe out of Bristol) and they said the Mance kid is the biggest on the OL and he's only 6'2 275. I say "only" because I was expecting them to be much bigger judgingby some of the posts on here. The other starting linemen ranged in height from 5'11-6'3 and weight from 215-260ish. Not trying to discredit how good they are but I thought there would have been a few 6'5+ 300lbs+ kids thats all. If the numbers from the paper are accurate, I think people will be surprised at how much size Appomattox actually has. 3 of the starting 5 OL are 5'11+ 250+ and the other two are 200lbs or a little more. Plus they have a 6'4 250lb TE/H-back. Not saying that this really means anything as far as outcome but, I was surprised by the article.
No giants on Richlands line, but I think the size comments may come from the "thickness" of those kids. They may not be 6'5", but they are just so stout looking. Richlands has an EXCELLENT weight lifting program.
Union has a good one too, but I wish it were as good as theirs.
Union has a good one too, but I wish it were as good as theirs.
Not disputing that at all. With all due respect to those teams, do they churn those athletes out year after year? If so, I haven't heard or seen that to be the case every year. I will say again that by and large 1A and 2A schools do not consistently have athletes to run a spread offense. I actually like watching that as much as anyone but the pool of athletes is a little more limited at this level over 3A on up. There are always exceptions and this year there is an abundance of very good passing teams (spread and conventional alike). Good luck to all these teams and I have no problem with any of them. I just don't think there are many schools that can run a spread passing game for years due to ebb and flow of talent at those skill positions.
Richlands has had those athletes for the last decade consistently. Our QBs regularly break the 2000 yard mark and I can't recall one with less than 1600 yards passing in a season in a long time. We've had a healthy stable of athletes on the perimeter and plenty have went on to play at smaller colleges plus a few DI schools (VT, SMU, Marshall).
Richlands hasn't ran anything other than the spread since 2004.
We also have 26 playoff victories in the past 10 years. That's quite a feat to go along with the 100+ victories since 2004. We haven't had a season with less than 7 wins since I believe 2002.
Union is pretty new to the spread. It was mostly run for the first few years of existence as were the schools that formed it. Especially Appalachia. PV may have been more balanced.
However, Richlands has run spread for 10+ years. Of course, they were 3A for a good portion of that time.
Not doubting it one bit. Looking back though, Richlands was a 3A school from the early 2000's until 2013 so I can see where you could run that offense year after year. I could be wrong but the talent pool would drop off when or if your numbers drop under 600 students. I know we played Nelson a few years ago and they were/are a 2A school that was trying to go to the spread. Now granted they have been buried for a few years but they did not a snow balls chance in hades to run that O. I applaud all these teams that have the talent and can do it, but I guess you guys just have a better concentration of athletes, cause teams in the valley can't pull it off effectively, lol. More power to ya
It probably helps that our feeder program is so strong and runs elements of the spread to help them as they get older. We have well over 100 kids on our various Richlands feeder teams, we also have 4 local teams (Grundy, Honaker, Hurley, and Twin Valley) that have teams in our league. That pays dividends in the long run. We also have a top notch weight program and facilities. Last year after the Saturday afternoon loss to Wilson Memorial in the heartbreaker, 2 days later (Monday morning) we had 30+ kids there to lift.
Everything has just fallen into place here. A coach that's been here for a long time that is a mastermind of the offense he runs (he learned it from Urban Meyer), dedicated kids that do what is necessary to improve every day, top notch facilities, and a great feeder program. It shows on Friday nights in the fall.
Weight room makes a HUGE difference!
I will compare any 2 a school in VA to Coach Smith's weight room program. I promise u that!
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Appomattox could have ran spread THIS YEAR (we had atheletes to do it) and maybe next 2 years if they wanted to. Not hating cause i have love for the veer offense that coach brought to Appo! Coach Smith is molding a sophomore that is gonna be great at passing the ball to take the place of Page. This kid started as a freshman safety and now serves as a safety and QB2. Coach takes advantage of defensive weaknesses. I would never say he plays the run or plays the pass. He is a great coach that takes advantage of either one.
Passing hurt us vs. Giles because Blankenship got pushed to play QB 2013 due to our starting QB being dismissed from team for academics 2 days before first game. Our passing game was hindered and we were mainly a rushing team. I knew it was gonna bite us in playoffs.
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Our little league. There are 2 teams from Richlands, one from Cedar Bluff (Richlands High feeder town), one from Honaker, one from Hurley, one from Twin Valley, and one from Grundy. I think that's all. I may have missed one.
