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Man, really??
1st: I NEVER "vaguely" stated anything... I DID however, directly state my OPINION. That's all it is, MY OPINION!! Just because it's my OPINION or the OPINION of anyone else does NOT in anyway make it as you say "WRONG".. You are CORRECT!! Either he is or he isn't, and until we have an opportunity to witness the two to actually compete (which we most likely will not) in regards to which we "disagree" then, as they say, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE... So, IN MY OPINION, IT IS STILL MY BELIEF that the Walker kid is "AS FAST or FASTER" than Mr. Beck, in a straight line, unobstructed, point A to point B.. NOT WRONG, NOT FACT, NOT LAUGHABLE, NOT HYSTERICAL... Simply an OPINION!!!
2nd: Your "jabs" directed towards "the poster" from last year is a moot point, move on... Again, AGREED!! (I thought we already put this issue to bed, obviously not) As did I, you and EVERYONE else knew that the "Blues Backfield" was NOT running 4.3, 4.4 and most likely not even 4.5= 40's, not a shocker.. Again, AGREED!! THEY WERE/ARE VERY GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYERS(Athletes).. (two of the three have graduated and moved on to the next level, one in football(NELSON-Concord) and the other in Track and Field(COOK-William & Mary) in which both student athletes received FULL RIDE SCHOLARSHIPS!!
3rd: It's OBVIOUS that you have a problem with ANYONE who disagrees with you, regardless if it's in reference to FACT or OPINION... You say it's "gloating" when in FACT it is OPINION and then refer to the "topic of discussion" as "REFUTABLE", when in actuality that is YOUR OPINION.. You can not nor can I prove or disprove either of our OPINIONS even though we know the #'s(times) on Mr. Beck until we have recorded #'s(times) on Mr. Walker.. It's not WRONG and if it as you say, "draws a negative picture" of the PM Fan base, then you are in reality saying that NO ONE IN THE PM FAN BASE or ANY OTHER SCHOOLS FAN BASE, including YOU for that matter has a "VALID OPINION" of their respective teams.. Ask ANY FAN of ANY TEAM, again, including YOU, and I PROMISE you that they(YOU) will say that it is their belief, i.e. (OPINION) that their team(kids)is better than the other team.. Maybe they are, maybe they're not. As previously stated, ANYTHING HAPPEN!! BUT, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY BELIEVE, THAT IS CALLED THEIR OPINION!!
4th: "Spewing Nonsense"? Really? As they say on ESPN, C'mon Man!!! If I have facts, I'll state facts, If not then I'll state my OPINION, just as you and anyone else would do.. Are you telling me that EVERYTHING you post is FACT or could it be remotely possible that you do on occasion post your OPINION??
5th: I to hope should we have the opportunity this season to meet GW that we can be victorious..
LOL... I don't recall anyone rattling your chain Sir.... And by the way, I'm still waiting on that "BIG PARTY" that you guys were going to throw where we were all supposed to sit around and enjoy a cold adult beverage and talk football before our looonng and disappointing ride back home... Just saying!!
I can't understand why some posters on this message board cannot be respectful to others. There are certainly ones on here that state things all the time like their word is like the word of god. EVERYONE should be able to have their opinion, and be able to voice it. When things get repetitive or disrespectful is when people start changing from discussions to arguments.
go back and read the entire thread @GatorBait1988. Look at the difference in how boom responds to yours and mine. That is because I was respectful. What I think happened with @HRCMSTHBOOM is that he may have used a few words that were incorrect and not intended to be meant that way, i.e. not up for discussion and i don't care what his time is.
The fact is, since the kid doesn't have any time, NOBODY knows whether he is or isn't faster. Say he isn't, what good does it do to say it? All I see is a fan of his team, and for all we know this kid could be his kid. Do you think that just because he says that the kid is faster that it somehow will be taken for the absolute truth? So from a message board and a post saying he is faster than it will get him unwarranted recognition? I for one think recognition for any kid is good, unless it is for a bad thing. Does this post somehow discredit anything the Beck kid has accomplished?
Just because someone has their own opinion, doesn't mean they are out of line for stating it. Certainly if it isn't something derogatory should they be tried to make a fool of or cause for someone to be very rude to them.
By the way, I am faster than Usain Bolt, and I have a picture of a stopwatch with 9.42 on it, you want to see for proof. If that were the case with the situation with a recorded time, I would suspect that people still wouldn't believe it.
go back and read the entire thread @GatorBait1988. Look at the difference in how boom responds to yours and mine. That is because I was respectful. What I think happened with @HRCMSTHBOOM is that he may have used a few words that were incorrect and not intended to be meant that way, i.e. not up for discussion and i don't care what his time is.
The fact is, since the kid doesn't have any time, NOBODY knows whether he is or isn't faster. Say he isn't, what good does it do to say it? All I see is a fan of his team, and for all we know this kid could be his kid. Do you think that just because he says that the kid is faster that it somehow will be taken for the absolute truth? So from a message board and a post saying he is faster than it will get him unwarranted recognition? I for one think recognition for any kid is good, unless it is for a bad thing. Does this post somehow discredit anything the Beck kid has accomplished?
Just because someone has their own opinion, doesn't mean they are out of line for stating it. Certainly if it isn't something derogatory should they be tried to make a fool of or cause for someone to be very rude to them.
By the way, I am faster than Usain Bolt, and I have a picture of a stopwatch with 9.42 on it, you want to see for proof. If that were the case with the situation with a recorded time, I would suspect that people still wouldn't believe it.
Gunz41, Once Again, Duly noted and I absolutely, without a doubt respect and understand where you are coming from and the point which you make... I agree 100% that it has gotten to the point of repetition however, I will always stand my ground when and if it's something that I truly believe in and most definitely when I feel that my opinion or thoughts are of legitimate and valid discussion.. I applaud you for "ringing my bell" in a manner in which I can rationalize what you as an observer (fellow poster) is reading. The Walker kid IS NOT my son, but if he were, I would still feel the same until the discussion(which may never happen) was proven different.. My intention was NEVER to take anything away from Mr. Beck and what he has accomplished & if that was the interpretation, I truly apologize, to Mr. Beck and everyone else.. I simply wanted to give credit where credit was due and in this case I feel that if the Walker kid had a legitimate opportunity to prove himself (which he does, by the way of Track & Field) he would be more recognized as a legitimate "speed threat"... On or off the track as well as on or off of the field! I truly hate that the kid has no desire to run competitively however, that is his choice.. So, that being said, Thank you again, and I promise to move on... I know that much of this is just in "good fun" and we all poke one another here and there.. I do try NOT to take it personally however, sometimes I think it's just the nature of the beast with folks like us,(football folks) who are passionate about and live for the game of football, at any level... There are many, many talented, gifted and knowledgeable(several more so than I)including GatorBait1988 that have added so much to this board and others. I agree, we should be more respectful of each other... Including myself!!
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You certainly didn't fall under the repetitive thing. Some people posts things on here over and over again, and it can be maddening. I certainly have no issue with what you wrote, I could also decipher what you were saying even with the few words I would seem as wrong. I really have an issue when people get berated for having an opinion. It's outrageous how some people (won't name names) just think theirs is the only opinion that matters and will be rude just because it's different.
Can't we all just get along
There is no problem with having a opinion...a opinion would be "I think Player A is better than Player B." There are so many variables that go into being a "good" player. You could argue your case on those...I get that and have no problem. I don't agree with having an opinion on speed. It can be measured. My mind is analytical, I'm just wired that way. Stating someone is faster than someone is a truth. Either they are or they aren't. That's like me stating, "2+2=5. That's my opinion. Deal with it." Everyone knows 2+2 can be proven. Same with speed.
I also don't have a problem with a fan coming on here stating, "We have a super fast kid on the team." Fast is a relative term. But when you start stating that the kid is "as fast or faster" than another...that's when it become comparable and thus can be proven or disproven. Also....we get that the kid doesn't have a time, I would recommend to just state he is "fast" then. Until the time comes out (if it does) don't say he is "as fast or faster" than someone with a proven time. That's just not fair.
Again....have all the opinions you want....just don't have them on things that have a definitive answer.
Yes we can all get along....
I also don't have a problem with a fan coming on here stating, "We have a super fast kid on the team." Fast is a relative term. But when you start stating that the kid is "as fast or faster" than another...that's when it become comparable and thus can be proven or disproven. Also....we get that the kid doesn't have a time, I would recommend to just state he is "fast" then. Until the time comes out (if it does) don't say he is "as fast or faster" than someone with a proven time. That's just not fair.
Again....have all the opinions you want....just don't have them on things that have a definitive answer.
Yes we can all get along....
Sorry to disappoint you guys/gals. As promised, I have moved on!!
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It would be great to explore a new topic of discussion...
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Hopefully, within the next couple of weeks or so we should have plenty of new material in which we can(mostly)all agree to disagree...
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It would be great to explore a new topic of discussion...
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Hopefully, within the next couple of weeks or so we should have plenty of new material in which we can(mostly)all agree to disagree...
There is no problem with having a opinion...a opinion would be "I think Player A is better than Player B." There are so many variables that go into being a "good" player. You could argue your case on those...I get that and have no problem. I don't agree with having an opinion on speed. It can be measured. My mind is analytical, I'm just wired that way. Stating someone is faster than someone is a truth. Either they are or they aren't. That's like me stating, "2+2=5. That's my opinion. Deal with it." Everyone knows 2+2 can be proven. Same with speed.
I also don't have a problem with a fan coming on here stating, "We have a super fast kid on the team." Fast is a relative term. But when you start stating that the kid is "as fast or faster" than another...that's when it become comparable and thus can be proven or disproven. Also....we get that the kid doesn't have a time, I would recommend to just state he is "fast" then. Until the time comes out (if it does) don't say he is "as fast or faster" than someone with a proven time. That's just not fair.
Again....have all the opinions you want....just don't have them on things that have a definitive answer.
Yes we can all get along....
Ok fair enough, but what about all the variables that can go into something that is quantitative? All the conditions that can effect speed. Just to give you a few to ponder on. Footwear, surface, weather conditions, whether they were running by themselves or against someone to "push" them, and of course hand timed or electronically timed. You see, its not just as simple 2 people run and whoever posts a faster time is faster. The reason 2+2 works is it is done in the same environment with the same set of circumstances and a full proof method of determining.
We are drastically reaching now. There are always variables, in everything. All I'm asking for is a time, that's it....a time. If there isn't one, don't state he is "faster" or "as fast". Period.
Let the kid run however he wants. Provide a time or keep quiet. There is an absolute truth here, stop reaching, guy.
Gunz41, just give it up... It was worth a shot, we have have tried to break it down for him (them) but it is quite obvious that several folks are hung up on the "FACT" that an individual and their "OPINION" carries no weight unless it can first be "PROVEN"... It is quite apparent there is no such thing as an opinion...
It's my opinion that I am faster than Usain Bolt. Deal with it.
From what I have read about Beck, there is no one in VA in any class faster than him. Well maybe Hurley's new RB might be.
Dude, you may be!! And if that's your OPINION and that's what you believe, so be it... As in the circumstance's of discussion here, until it's proven otherwise (which in your case as well, may never happen) it still remains a possibility!!! Just as you claim in my comment, it's highly unlikely, and as you say, laughable and hysterical, but still POSSIBLE!!
Where in the World has " Blaster" been during this discussion, surely GW has someone bigger and faster than "Beck".
Haha no Beck is in a class of his own when it comes to raw speed. But don't fret we still have our usual burners. EJ Horton would've been one of our fastest but he chose to play for another school this year. We have Rayvon Wells who is Scrappy Wells little brother and we have Reid Skeens who is Trey Skeens little brother. One WR and one RB.
But back to PM and this is no disrespect to any other kids they have. But to me the special talent and stand out for them this year is Wheeler the LB. That kid is going to make some noise.
But back to PM and this is no disrespect to any other kids they have. But to me the special talent and stand out for them this year is Wheeler the LB. That kid is going to make some noise.
How in the world can you really not see how this applies. The math thing is a reach to prove a point, but the different circumstances to run have a big bearing on things. If you didn't know I will spell it out for you, since you want to act like you know everything. For a 100 meter dash, I think the number is .22 that would be difference in hand timed vs electronic time. If someone runs on grass vs a track their time will be different. If the wind is different it effects time, ever heard of wind aided? So if player A runs a 4.5 in a certain condition, his time could be better or worse in the condition that player B runs. If player A runs a 5.0 40 and Player B runs a 4.3 40 then it would be safe to say that the conditions wouldn't make up the difference in the 2 numbers, but if the times are closer then any number of conditions can dictact an outcome. The only way to prove it without a shadow of a doubt is to have them line up next to each other and find out. Since you are the only one who seems to care what time each runs, we are counting on you to set it up
This thread is the definition of people talking past each other. You guys should try listening without preparing your response as you read.
I don't think you are talking to the smartest BV resident ! Try talking to the wall !
Earth to Xcross, I don't believe Gunz41is "talking to" or "about" me... Take your your stupid goggles off, look at the BIG PICTURE and follow the thread!!! I may be wrong, but it is my "OPINION" that he's directing his comments to GatorBait1988 and most likely YOU!!
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