Ivbeen reading the messages on here for and against Riverheads for years. My son played and was a big part of a state championship gladiator team. Y'all want to know the reason they win. Here it is. Now listen close. The school, the administration, the kids, and the parents, have bought into the system. They respect it. The respect Coach Casto. Everyone. They respect all the coaches. They are the bosses. Robert Castos philosophy is simple. Anyone whos had a kid play fpr him has heard it. He says, and i quote " the best 11 players play". If your child is not playing, they have 2 choices. They can work Harder or they can quit. Ivheard him say" I don't care who you are, who your parents are, it doesn't matter to me. The best players play". So people, that's why it works. It's not numbers, its not money. Its the commitment to the program. Period. And one last thing. Robert Castro we all appreciate what you've did at Riverheads. Thank you. So Wilson, Stuart's Draft,. Buy into your coach. Don't 2nd guess him. Thank you all for listening to my rant.
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The town has bought into from Midgets to Varsity. From the time they’re old enough to play they are learning that system.
I dislike the team from Greenville as much as anyone else, but like i said in my other post before they hijacked it i respect the hell out of them. Greenville to me is the ONLY town around this area that is all about the football team. It’s where everyone goes on a Friday night. It’s what anyone from Greenville talks about. They remind me of a SWVA school.
If there is one thing i learned from Wilson’s 5 year run of being close to the top, it’s just how difficult it is to not only get there but do it year in and year out. So hats off to you guys.
Still won’t ever cheer for them, but I’ll always respect them
I dislike the team from Greenville as much as anyone else, but like i said in my other post before they hijacked it i respect the hell out of them. Greenville to me is the ONLY town around this area that is all about the football team. It’s where everyone goes on a Friday night. It’s what anyone from Greenville talks about. They remind me of a SWVA school.
If there is one thing i learned from Wilson’s 5 year run of being close to the top, it’s just how difficult it is to not only get there but do it year in and year out. So hats off to you guys.
Still won’t ever cheer for them, but I’ll always respect them
Given Riverheads's consistency, and I am referring to their overall records year in and year out, not just their playoff successes, it simply HAS to be the coaching and the preparation. If it wasn't, there would be up and down years. Compare that to Buffalo Gap's one championship season, and the near misses for Wilson, Stuarts Draft and now Lee. Those were years in which the right personnel and combination of players just happened to come along, and in most of those cases, their fans could see it coming a couple of years in advance. For the three county schools, they could not sustain it and it remains to be seen if Lee will.
But Riverheads reloads every year, usually with a lot of changes in players. So how could that kind of continuity be anything BUT a strong coaching staff and a system that works?
But Riverheads reloads every year, usually with a lot of changes in players. So how could that kind of continuity be anything BUT a strong coaching staff and a system that works?
It is most certainly a product of EXTREMELY GREAT coaching. Sure there are some good players, but Casto and staff are the majority of the success.
Ha, gotta love Gunz pleaded his innocence like a 2 year old. 'Uh Uh I didn't do anything.' Ha ha
We know Gunzy. You are the perfect poster and are there to help us all by officiating the board. I think comments coming about your fans are coming from their mouths, you know, like the same way people have issues with some Riverheads, or Wilson fans, which other than a few on the board, are out in the wild, talking their junk. It will be ok Gunzy, we know you are perfectly behaved.
I appreciate this thread because, so far, it is the local people who do know what Riverheads is and the justified respect is being given. These teams that play Riverheads year in - year out know it isn't a enrollment thing or some kind of bias that has earned them their success. It has been commitment to hard work and the consistency in the coaching staff. Casto, Norcross, Hemp, and Wassick have all been there for the entire run and take them 8th grade through.
RHS was in Div 2 for 4 years:
2011 12-1 Beat 10 Div 2 teams, including 11-3 State Semi Wilson. Season ended to State Champion Gretna
2012 10-2 Beat 8 Div 2 teams, Lost to State Semi Wilson twice
2013 12-2 Beat 9 Div 2 teams (including Goochland) and 2 Div 3 teams, Lost to Wilson (still playing great ball) and Season ended in the Sate Semifinals to State Champion Giles.
2014 11-1 Beat 8 Div 2 teams and 2 Div 3 teams. Beat State Runner Up Wilson. Season ended by a missed XP to King William
Riverheads was 45-6 during those 4 years. Lost in the playoffs to the State Champion in two of those years, one of them in the State Semi Finals. Please tell me the long list of teams that were better than RHS during that time frame. Tell me how what they were doing didn't work. I'll help you.
- Gretna 2011 State Champion was 28-19 during that time period.
- Goochland 2012 State Champion was 46-9 during that time period.
- Giles 2013 State Champion was 47-5 during that time period.
- Glenvar 2014 State Champion was 30-18 during that time.
- Wilson had the best run of their existence during those 4 years. 46-9. Riverheads played Wilson 5 times and beat them twice. RHS had a 15 point win and Wilson had an 11 point win. The other 3 were separated by a combined 7 points. I'd say RHS held their own against their cors county rival, a school 200+ more in enrollment. (Not that anyone wearing Red talked about enrollment numbers)
Maybe RHS doesn't win Div 1 titles during that time period. Altavista was 29-1 over 2013 and 2014. Can't know now.
Why did RHS not win a state title from 01 to 05, or 07 to 09. They were in Div 1 then. Why didn't it work in D1? It did work. It has worked the whole time.
Maybe we don't have to discredit a team that plays well year in year out no matter which division, class, or whatever they want to call it they are in. This isn't NFL/College. This isn't even FBS/FCS where scholarship numbers make a difference and the word recruiting is relevant.
If we are going to continue this conversation, that has continued for 5 years, bring some facts that back up your point.
There are many more oppotunites to lose in 2A vs 1A if you are elite..
In 1A there may be 4-6 teams statewide which are good
in 2A there are probably 12-16 that on any given night can beat you even if you are a top dog.
It's really that simple....
Giles is every bit the program Riverheads is and they have only climbed the mountain to a state title once in the past 12 years in 2A.
In 1A there may be 4-6 teams statewide which are good
in 2A there are probably 12-16 that on any given night can beat you even if you are a top dog.
It's really that simple....
Giles is every bit the program Riverheads is and they have only climbed the mountain to a state title once in the past 12 years in 2A.
I'm guessing you are equating "working" with winning as many State Titles as they have at 1A....just a guess.
The major flaw in your argument is that you are up in arms about enrollment numbers. I get it. You aren't singling out RH, but they just happen to be the team with 474 students, one student under the cut off for 1A and they are winning State Titles....and by a wide margin. I agree, it doesn't look good. They have to be the biggest 1A school....but, you do understand that if they turn in 476 students on enrollment and they move up to 2A.....they will be the smallest 2A school....so by your logic (more kids=more athletes) then RH shouldn't be competitive at all in 2A, just from a shear numbers argument. So....during RH's time in 2A they won almost 90% of their games, every year won at least 1 playoff game, and their losses came to teams that played in the State Title game a couple times. I would say that is "working" (in my opinion), I get that they aren't bring the State Titles home in 2A like they are in 1A, but, they are still VERY competitive year in and out.
One thing I've noticed about RH is, they don't have the athletes to match up with the top 2A teams. RH doesn't have the athletes like Lee, Appo (3 year stint), Wilson, Goochland, Union, and Richlands. RH's coaching staff keeps them in the game, but USUALLY when you face one of the aforementioned teams, you are playing them in the playoffs, usually deep in the playoffs....now you have to face the fire power on the field (athletes/size) AND these teams don't get their unless they are well coached. This is where RH falls short. They can't match the athletes AND the coaching. Casto has a sound game plan, but it's too one dimensional for late playoff games against the top 2A teams. Their athletes can run them down and their coaching will put them in the best position to win.
So in theory, you have a point. But, RH's system definitely works at the 2A level, it just hasn't proven to be successful against the top 4-5 teams in 2A.
Is that really true?
I don't follow the other classes that closely (unless a higher level team is the horizon) but if I am not mistaken the same team in 2A has won the State like title three times in a row.
Come to think of it, the SAME team has won the State title three times in a row in 2A, 4A, 5A, and 6A.....hmmm, I must be mistaken. I wonder if in some big classes if the same two teams play every year for the title?
Again, it is all relative...and I have no problems with dynasties just saying there is not much difference in how the classes play out.
I think the point of the initial argument is that the games at 1A aren't competitive, this is because of enrollment.
1A: RH has won the last two years; 42-0 and 49-6.
2A: Appo has won the last three years. Their talent in 2015 and 2016 was something special, they could have competed (probably won) in 3A and 4A. This year their talent was a little down and they won the State Semi-Final by 3 and the State Title game by 4. Both competitive games. 2015 and 2016 were outliers due to their shear dominance of athletes.
4A: Salem won the last two State Title games. I believe they beat Dinwiddie in 2016 by like 3 or 4 (competitive game) and then they beat Louisa this year by a lot, but the score was indicative of how close the game was. I even heard Louisa had the ball in the 4th with a chance to tie the game. They didn't and the wheels fell off.
5A: Highland Springs (my favorite team) have won the last two state titles. 2016 was one of the best high school games I've ever witnessed. Unreal competition between both teams. HS won by 6. This year HS pounded a bit on Tuscarora. HS made some key stops and was able to win by 2 possessions, Tuscarora was definitely competitive though.
6A: Westfield/Oscar Smith. Battle of the titans! Both of these State Title games were not only competitive, but intense! Plus, there's no where for these teams to go. Best of the best. Fun to watch.
I think the big concern is that RH is teetering on the line for 2A AND they are blowing everyone out on their way to win State Titles in 1A. The rest of the classifications seem to be pretty competitive in the Semi-Finals and Finals....which shows parity within the classification.
Just my opinion though.....
I have no problems with Riverheads being in 1A. The coaching, the system, the buy in by everyone in that school and community is awesome. Rather they are in 1A or 2A makes no difference to me. I enjoy having a top dog (like New England in the NFL - I am not a Pats fan at all but have always respected Coach B and Tom B).
I just would like the VHSL to go back to criss crossing in the final (and or fix Region B). I support the NND teams from the far East. It is not at all fair or good sportsmanship.
No disrespect to Chilhowie, but the top 4 teams in the NND would have defeated them this season (as I illustrated in my top ten poll all season).
I just would like the VHSL to go back to criss crossing in the final (and or fix Region B). I support the NND teams from the far East. It is not at all fair or good sportsmanship.
No disrespect to Chilhowie, but the top 4 teams in the NND would have defeated them this season (as I illustrated in my top ten poll all season).
Riverheads does not have a challenge to get to states, I agree. Region A does have several strong teams (in almost all sports, not just football). It is not fair that Riverheads gets a free pass to states.
This is what I would like to see fixed. Riverheads can stay or go... I don't really care about their enrollment at all (but more and more " Virginia sports knowledgeable" folks are starting to wonder...).
This is what I would like to see fixed. Riverheads can stay or go... I don't really care about their enrollment at all (but more and more " Virginia sports knowledgeable" folks are starting to wonder...).
Did you hit the bottle early? Or did you just run out of knuckleballs. My point was it was posted on here and 2 schools were named, and me being the only poster from one of those schools it seemed like it was in part me?
And yes I do things wrong, post things wrong, but nothing like your buddy. But o well.
God bless and Merry Christmas
Casto and his team keep their focus inside the program and not on external things. We all know that "they do what they do". They worry about being the best at their offense and defense. Six plays(maybe if you count waggle) to perfection. Does it work every Friday. Nope. But 9 out of 10 times it will. Especially if you don't see them every year. More teams should be focused on themselves and doing 6 things perfect instead of 40 things mediocre. And then 40 different things the next season.
In a world of spread offenses, it is hard to prepare for the physicality of the red team. IMO the worst thing that happened to Riverheads was when so many other Shenandoah valley teams started running either the wing-t, double wing or straight T. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. But NOBODY has shown they can do it better. I hope they win it again next year.
You do realize that RHS can compete in football , but what about all the other sports ? If and when they go 2A , baseball , basketball , track , ect , all will be average in their competition . All those tired of getting their a$$ beat on the gridiron should take notes from Riverheads and work to get better ! GET OVER IT !!!!!
The bolded is 110% FACT.
A few years back I was talking with some Rappahannock County fans during their 5 year or so losing streak. They were running the typical spread offense; you know, the one where the QB cant throw accurately over 10 yards and the center cant seem to snap it cleanly on 75% of the plays. Typical 1A spread. Grace Christian had graciously given RC two different opportunities inside the 5 yard line after turnovers. And RappCo, instead of going under center, kept trying to run jet sweeps. And came away with ZERO points. After the second failed attempt I made the comment that the Panthers would do a lot better running either a Wing T or Straight T. And the guy I was talking to was like "buuuut you haave to run the spread these days to be successful".. and I told him about Riverheads and how they run like 4 to 6 plays to perfection and it left him in stunned disbelief.
Funny thing, even Rappahannock County, after firing the joker that was coaching them at the time, now runs a Wishbone. And guess what, they run maybe 8 plays, but they run them well. And their record shows that.
They have beaten some of the teams you mention they can't compete with, and haven't faced the other ones. When they lose to a team, it's because the team was better at that time. When is last time they didn't compete in any game? I'll wait... They haven't not been in a game in a long time. Sure they have had a few losses, and a couple by 2 TD's this year, but this was a down year for them I hate to say, and they still were in those games.
Robert E Lee, that team with too many athletes for them, they beat them by like 42 points last year. Almost all those kids for Lee were on team last year. Riverheads lost 1 game last year in OT. That was to Stuarts Draft, Stuarts Draft lost in the final seconds by 1 point to Richlands. I think it's safe to say they were close to Richlands. Wilson? Even when Wilson was playing great, they were extremely close games.
So while I may not like them, I respect them and their coaches far too much to let someone degrade them with something thst is simply untrue.
1). Stop using the Transitive Property.
2). RH controls the ball, therefore the clock as well. When you get up by 10 points on RH and you are a formidable opponent (Top 2A teams) it's equivalent to a lot more, due to the style of play.
3). Who's "degrading" them? Because I said they simply can't compete with Lee (THIS YEAR), Appo (The last 3 years), Richlands (2015/2016), Giles, or Union (This year) this is me "degrading" them? Grow up. I am actually cherry picking teams out that I don't think they could compete with, that shows more respect than anything. That means I am having to look at specific years that a RH COULDN'T compete with one of these teams. Probably means year in and out RH could compete with them.
Appo: I have a hard time seeing RH move the ball against their D the last 3 years. What baffled Appo (Union, Heritage and Lee this year) were elite playmakers. I think we can all agree that RH doesn't have playmakers in the same arena as those 3 teams. We've seen teams lineup and run the ball at Appo, Giles for example, how'd that work out? Not very good. I won't even get into all the playmakers on offense Appo has. I could use your Transitive Property, RH scored 7 points on Lee this year.....Appo scored nearly 40.....so Appo would score what.....70 on RH? I don't think RH could score 71 to beat them.
Union (2017): Mitchell is all they need on offense (they actually have 3 more guys that could be successful against any 2A team.). Defense.....too big and too many athletes.
Lee (2017): 23-7. Enough said.
Richlands (2015/2016): Defensive line was huge and their defensive backfield was loaded with talent. Offense......I don't think RH has ever seen a more complex passing system and then mix in 1 elite WR and 2-3 very good ones. Asbury would definitely be the best pocket passer they would ever see.
I think Lee score would be the closest at 23-7. I think the other 3 roll through RH because of the match-up styles.
Again....this is NO DISRESPECT to RH. They have shown to be VERY SUCCESSFUL at 2A, but they lost and would lose to the top 2A talent.
This is just my opinion based off seeing them play......
"Can't compete" though...... That's where you are getting reaction.
Ask Lee and see if they feel like they were competed against that night in October. Lee played great and had a great game plan. They won. That said, Riverheads drove the ball into Lee territory throughout and RHS held Lee scoreless after halftime. It was a hard hitting, competitive game where even during the 4th qtr the game was not 100% certain. That is the only match up of these that happen during the season, so it is my only real example.
A less useful example is the fact that Appomattox has come to RHS the past few years for Scrimmage Jamborees. Whether this is relevant or not, I will say I have seen competitive football between them. Now, that is August and lord knows what either team's goals during those scrimmages have been, but I wanted to at least reference that it happened.
The phrasing "can't compete" is degrading to a team, that has found success (Ws) against many top teams in 2A, and for certain competed in all of them. (Giles was a competitive game the one time they played) (Goochland was an RHS win back when it happened) (I do think there is transitive reasons to think RHS could at least hang with god's gift to football Richlands, who has not won a State Title in recent history, though is talked about like they have Tom Brady at QB, because Draft had em tight, and RHS played Draft equally tight a couple weeks apart)
I guess we need to define "Can't compete" cause if losing, whether it is by 1 or 50, is equal, and winning gets ignored, then every week 95% of the teams in that state "Can't compete", and only the teams you like/respect are holding their own.
Ask Lee and see if they feel like they were competed against that night in October. Lee played great and had a great game plan. They won. That said, Riverheads drove the ball into Lee territory throughout and RHS held Lee scoreless after halftime. It was a hard hitting, competitive game where even during the 4th qtr the game was not 100% certain. That is the only match up of these that happen during the season, so it is my only real example.
A less useful example is the fact that Appomattox has come to RHS the past few years for Scrimmage Jamborees. Whether this is relevant or not, I will say I have seen competitive football between them. Now, that is August and lord knows what either team's goals during those scrimmages have been, but I wanted to at least reference that it happened.
The phrasing "can't compete" is degrading to a team, that has found success (Ws) against many top teams in 2A, and for certain competed in all of them. (Giles was a competitive game the one time they played) (Goochland was an RHS win back when it happened) (I do think there is transitive reasons to think RHS could at least hang with god's gift to football Richlands, who has not won a State Title in recent history, though is talked about like they have Tom Brady at QB, because Draft had em tight, and RHS played Draft equally tight a couple weeks apart)
I guess we need to define "Can't compete" cause if losing, whether it is by 1 or 50, is equal, and winning gets ignored, then every week 95% of the teams in that state "Can't compete", and only the teams you like/respect are holding their own.
I think some are missing the argument here - again, nothing but respect for the Riverheads coaching staff and system plus community support - Huge Props!
Many people keep saying the competition should improve - I totally agree. To all Region B teams you need to work harder to improve in football -
Here are the Region B teams- (besides Riverheads, Altavisa, WC, and Central L)
Appomattox Regional GS, Carver College/Career Academy, Cumberland, Galileo, Stonewall Jackson, Rapphannock County. Good Luck to them in improving in Football......
Many people keep saying the competition should improve - I totally agree. To all Region B teams you need to work harder to improve in football -
Here are the Region B teams- (besides Riverheads, Altavisa, WC, and Central L)
Appomattox Regional GS, Carver College/Career Academy, Cumberland, Galileo, Stonewall Jackson, Rapphannock County. Good Luck to them in improving in Football......
Again....they have had GREAT success against 90% of 2A teams...I just don't see them beating top end 2A teams.
Giles: 2013 matchup.....28-7. Two run heavy teams playing each other...how is a 3 possession game competitive? Let's just say Giles tacks on a garbage TD at the end of the game, that still leaves a 2 possession game between 2 run heavy teams. I don't think that's competitive. Also....7 points.....doesn't that tell you that the one dimensional offense shows some serious doubt against TOP 2A opponents? Just my opinion....
Gretna: 2011 matchup....28-14. Another two possession loss. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt to believe that Gretna scored a garbage TD.
Wilson: 2012 matchup....22-21. One point. Kudos.
Wilson: 2013 matchup....35-24. Two possessions. Again....I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
King William: 2014 matchup....28-27. One point. Kudos.
Galax: 2015 matchup....7-6. One point. Kudos.
I won't get into 2016 or 2017, looks like they have a few losses, but, it's arbitrary.
My point is that they would struggle and be out manned against the top 2A talent. I still stand by my statement that Union, Appo, Giles, and Richlands would year in and out win by at least 2 possessions, which against RH is quite a bit.
You are right gatorbait, you know everything about every team in the state, none of us have even close the amount of knowledge as you.
It doesn't even matter if we see the games and you don't, you still know more than is.
Even the coaches dont know anything compared to you. @TimWakefield, you need to go see Casto and get him to change everything so they can "compete"
It doesn't even matter if we see the games and you don't, you still know more than is.
Even the coaches dont know anything compared to you. @TimWakefield, you need to go see Casto and get him to change everything so they can "compete"
Just a little more information on a couple of the games mentioned.Again....they have had GREAT success against 90% of 2A teams...I just don't see them beating top end 2A teams.
Giles: 2013 matchup.....28-7. Two run heavy teams playing each other...how is a 3 possession game competitive? Let's just say Giles tacks on a garbage TD at the end of the game, that still leaves a 2 possession game between 2 run heavy teams. I don't think that's competitive. Also....7 points.....doesn't that tell you that the one dimensional offense shows some serious doubt against TOP 2A opponents? Just my opinion....
Gretna: 2011 matchup....28-14. Another two possession loss. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt to believe that Gretna scored a garbage TD.
Wilson: 2012 matchup....22-21. One point. Kudos.
Wilson: 2013 matchup....35-24. Two possessions. Again....I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
King William: 2014 matchup....28-27. One point. Kudos.
Galax: 2015 matchup....7-6. One point. Kudos.
I won't get into 2016 or 2017, looks like they have a few losses, but, it's arbitrary.
My point is that they would struggle and be out manned against the top 2A talent. I still stand by my statement that Union, Appo, Giles, and Richlands would year in and out win by at least 2 possessions, which against RH is quite a bit.
Giles 2013 Starting QB hurt week before. I don't believe he played. Also played on D I think.
King William Missed extra point. I believe only one all year.
So maybe Gretna 6 years ago is valid.
If we are talking about injuries we will have to check with EVERY team to be sure they didn't have injuries when they played RH too.
QB is pretty important in RH system. I'm sure others may have had injuries too, just giving a little more info, not an excuse. I remember the Giles game.If we are talking about injuries we will have to check with EVERY team to be sure they didn't have injuries when they played RH too.
Might as well make sure all the kickers legs were OK too.
Correct on both counts............the PAT missed against King William was that kid's one and only miss all season. Likewise, this year's kicker, who is only a sophomore, only missed one all year and that one was blocked, as opposed to him just plain missing it, if that makes a difference.
As for the quarterback the day we played Giles, yes indeed he had been injured the game before, so he did not play (at quarterback) against the Spartans, but my memory is that he saw limited action on special teams or something like that.
Another memory I have of that Giles game is that we were trailing by only one score in the third quarter, either 7-0 or 14-7, when we got what seemed to be a horrible spot and measurement that killed a drive deep in Giles' territory, or that game might have been closer than it was.
As for the quarterback the day we played Giles, yes indeed he had been injured the game before, so he did not play (at quarterback) against the Spartans, but my memory is that he saw limited action on special teams or something like that.
Another memory I have of that Giles game is that we were trailing by only one score in the third quarter, either 7-0 or 14-7, when we got what seemed to be a horrible spot and measurement that killed a drive deep in Giles' territory, or that game might have been closer than it was.
Yeah, I won't cite a bad spot or injuries, but RHS competed none-the-less, like Longtimer is saying.
I've seen every team that has been talked bout play football in various years. I stand by my point of view that RHS would continue to compete with them year in - year out. I'll take RHS' 11 to compete against anyone in 2A's 11. Not win the Championship every year. Not go undefeated for 5 years in a row. I say they would continue with deep playoff runs and legitimate shots at the title.
If VHSL moves the line, to below the # RHS has, they play up and not a sole in the RHS area will have a dang issue with it. They would be out numbered by hundreds and you would not hear a peep.
I've seen every team that has been talked bout play football in various years. I stand by my point of view that RHS would continue to compete with them year in - year out. I'll take RHS' 11 to compete against anyone in 2A's 11. Not win the Championship every year. Not go undefeated for 5 years in a row. I say they would continue with deep playoff runs and legitimate shots at the title.
If VHSL moves the line, to below the # RHS has, they play up and not a sole in the RHS area will have a dang issue with it. They would be out numbered by hundreds and you would not hear a peep.
And that's what I respect about RH. I in no way, shape, or form was trying to downgrade RH. They have done more than hold their own in 2A. My personal belief is that from 2012-2017 they wouldn't have been able to hang with the TOP talent. You think they could. I respect your opinion, mine is just a little different!
There is one thing that isn't up for debate on here....RH shows up and executes every week, no matter who they play. Sound, fundamental football is something special to watch. Kudos to RH on back to back State Titles!
I believe you are correct in your assessment if they would have chance at title in 2012-2017 it would have been in 2016 that was the best team and they would had to beat Appo I believe that would’ve had a good chance to get to SalemAnd that's what I respect about RH. I in no way, shape, or form was trying to downgrade RH. They have done more than hold their own in 2A. My personal belief is that from 2012-2017 they wouldn't have been able to hang with the TOP talent. You think they could. I respect your opinion, mine is just a little different!
There is one thing that isn't up for debate on here....RH shows up and executes every week, no matter who they play. Sound, fundamental football is something special to watch. Kudos to RH on back to back State Titles!
I agree. I don't think RH is coming close to the Appo squad in 2016.
Again....just my opinion!
I'd take Juan Thornhill and AltaVista 1A vs any of the Appo teams the past 3 years.
You had 4 years in 2A with 0 titles and 0 appearances. That question has already been answered. The best team in my opinion you ever put on the field was in 2012 with Moore in the backfield. Now the question is how many will you win in 1A where you and Stonewall will consistently represent the district in the post season.
