ADVERTISEMENT

Riverheads Jamboree Report

longtimerhsfan

VaPreps All Region
Dec 12, 2006
5,531
1,565
113
It was that time again in Greenville as East Hardy, Amelia County, Rustburg, and Fort Defiance joined the host Gladiators for about 7 hours of scrimmage action. I only attended the final two segments featuring Riverheads but I believe I was told that in the earlier action Rustburg beat Amelia 7-6, Fort Defiance beat East Hardy 14-0, and Rustburg beat East Hardy 24-7.

The format for each scrimmage was to play two timed quarters, followed by each team then getting ten un-timed downs. It took roughly an hour or so to play each scrimmage. I was told that it rained for most of the first three scrimmages, but the Gladiators were blessed to play their two in near perfect weather with a nice breeze blowing through the stadium.

Riverheads manhandled Amelia 35-0 in its first test, and looked every bit the state champion contender they hope to be. Four different players scored TDs, all on the ground. Devin Morris broke a long one from about 58 yards around left end, Blake Smith scored from in close, Zac Smiley scored twice from inside the ten, and in the strangest score of the day, Trevor Roberts handled an errant snap that bounced straight back up to him and must have confused the defense long enough to allow him to dart right up the middle about 35 yards almost untouched for the score. Returning place kicker Peyton Skillman connected on all five unchallenged PATs.

In the untimed -down section of this scrimmage, Riverheads used only second and third stringers whereas Amelia had no choice but to use primarily starters, since they only dressed out about 20 for the afternoon. As a result the Raiders scored twice in their ten plays, including a 66-yard bomb in which the receiver got behind the defense, made his first contact with the ball, and then juggled it for about 15-20 yards before taking it in for the score. It was definitely the individual-effort play of the day for the Raiders. The RHS subs failed to score in their ten plays.

In the final scrimmage of the day, the host Gladiators took on cross-county rival Fort Defiance, which will be joining the Shenandoah District next season. Fort, as everyone knows, has had its struggles on the gridiron the last few years, but they seemed to be a much more confident bunch today and don't be surprised if they are able to string together some wins this year.

The Gladiators came out on top 13-0 in the two-quarter scrimmage, but they did not look anywhere near as efficient this time around. They were called for a number of penalties, they coughed the ball up on at least two handoffs, and they just appeared to have lost their mojo compared to the precision they displayed in the first game. Of course the Indians defense likely had something to do with all of that. Smiley scored a couple of short TDs to account for the scoring.

With their ten un-timed downs, the Big Red subs made a valiant effort to score as they made it down inside the five yard line on their final play of the day.

It appeared that the Indians might also come up short but instead they ended the day by scoring on their final play. I believe I heard the player scoring the TD was Manolescu or something like that.

RHS has another scrimmage next Saturday at Blue Ridge School over the mountain whereas the Indians will start their regular season next Friday night as they travel to Buffalo Gap. Those two have opened the season against one another for as long as I can remember and it has not been pretty the last few years, but the Fort team we saw today just might be capable of giving the Bison a run for their money.
 
Riverheads looked in mid season form against Amelia really wasn’t even a contest. Riverheads will be a tough out when it comes to playoffs.
 
  • Like
Reactions: uvacavs1
Great summary @longtimerhsfan. Future looks promising as well with lots of talent coming up based off of the numbers and the glimpses during their reps. I think I counted 45 dressed and had heard there is another 30ish on JV.
 
I am very impressed with the numbers of students playing football at Riverheads. Some seventy five
(75) is probably the most of any D1A in Virginia! Just wondering, what grades are you counting for this number? Freshmen through Seniors (9-12)?

Some schools count 8th grade players as part of their JV program. Others separate 7-8 as Middle School,
and are not counted in their numbers until they are Freshmen. Just wondering what grades are included in
Riverheads 75? If you are not counting your 8th grade class, then that is very impressive. Best of luck this
year, My Friends
 
  • Like
Reactions: uvacavs1
I am very impressed with the numbers of students playing football at Riverheads. Some seventy five
(75) is probably the most of any D1A in Virginia! Just wondering, what grades are you counting for this number? Freshmen through Seniors (9-12)?

Some schools count 8th grade players as part of their JV program. Others separate 7-8 as Middle School,
and are not counted in their numbers until they are Freshmen. Just wondering what grades are included in
Riverheads 75? If you are not counting your 8th grade class, then that is very impressive. Best of luck this
year, My Friends

Not from Riverheads and dont know their exact situation, but 8th and 9th would be JV, 10-12 Varsity with the few 9th they bring up for varsity
 
You are spot on Gunz, we have a Augusta county little league that some eighth graders play in but most all eighth graders here at Riverheads play on jv
 
Hey guys, what works for Riverheads, don't change! I may be wrong, but in SWVA, 7-8 grades are separated out as Middle School and are not counted as part of the VHSL program. Schools usually average 12-15 players per class 9-12. Usually, a school will have one class with small numbers. Schools are seeing their numbers decline all over the State. If a school can keep their numbers up each year, then great!
 
Hey guys, what works for Riverheads, don't change! I may be wrong, but in SWVA, 7-8 grades are separated out as Middle School and are not counted as part of the VHSL program. Schools usually average 12-15 players per class 9-12. Usually, a school will have one class with small numbers. Schools are seeing their numbers decline all over the State. If a school can keep their numbers up each year, then great!
Allot of 1A-2A schools have went to a 9th grade team with 8th and 9th graders on that team and 10,11,12 on varsity because of low numbers.
 
SCAGS, apparently schools are having to adjust to the fact that declining enrollment and declining participation is for real, and probably here to stay. Realistically, the actual numbers of kids in each class playing football is probably like 8 to 10 kids, not the 12-15 per class I mentioned previously. The 12-15 was a good figure some years ago, but not now, unfortunately.
Schools have to adjust to changing times, and football participation is taking a hit. I hope things level off and we see some stabilization in participation rates at all schools.
 
SCAGS, apparently schools are having to adjust to the fact that declining enrollment and declining participation is for real, and probably here to stay. Realistically, the actual numbers of kids in each class playing football is probably like 8 to 10 kids, not the 12-15 per class I mentioned previously. The 12-15 was a good figure some years ago, but not now, unfortunately.
Schools have to adjust to changing times, and football participation is taking a hit. I hope things level off and we see some stabilization in participation rates at all schools.

I think no matter what time you are using there are more factors in the numbers per class. I'm sure there would be an average number across the board, but there are many things that can skew them. Riverheads has a rich tradition and is the smallest school in Augusta county but may very well have the highest participation rate. Most schools up here aren't having a huge effect yet on numbers, at least not different than the norm. 2 of the key factors would be success rate and area. Even look 15 minutes down the road to Waynesboro who is twice as big enrollment wise. Lower than RH, some of that has to do with success and as big or bigger is the city and some of the things that go on in the city. Not going to get into everything, but I think you can all get the image. There is A LOT of talent there and I would venture to say than at best 50% of it steps foot on a field
 
  • Like
Reactions: uvacavs1
Hey guys, what works for Riverheads, don't change! I may be wrong, but in SWVA, 7-8 grades are separated out as Middle School and are not counted as part of the VHSL program. Schools usually average 12-15 players per class 9-12. Usually, a school will have one class with small numbers. Schools are seeing their numbers decline all over the State. If a school can keep their numbers up each year, then great!

Interesting how some schools do it out in SWVA. Makes sense some schools are changing their format if numbers are low.

All NND schools (and most in Region A as far as I know) have always done it like Riverheads. 8th graders play JV VHSL sports with 9th and 10th graders.

Varsity is for 11th and 12th graders but 10th graders and a few good 9th graders can play Varsity sports if pulled up.
 
I am very impressed with the numbers of students playing football at Riverheads. Some seventy five
(75) is probably the most of any D1A in Virginia! Just wondering, what grades are you counting for this number? Freshmen through Seniors (9-12)?

Some schools count 8th grade players as part of their JV program. Others separate 7-8 as Middle School,
and are not counted in their numbers until they are Freshmen. Just wondering what grades are included in
Riverheads 75? If you are not counting your 8th grade class, then that is very impressive. Best of luck this
year, My Friends

75 kids for a 1A is impressive. Of course, that is a major component of their success and because of that success the numbers will remain high as long as their great coach remains with his system.

At Essex, for example, a big part of their success is that basically every great athlete they have plays football. If you are big, fast, tough, cool - you play football (at least that is how it always was and appears still is -).They always win and people love to play for winners so the success continues.

At Northumberland, we are excited as 63 kids came out for the Football program this year! (I am sure that is a record, would have to ask an old timer). That is almost 25% of boys 8th to 12th grade. Coach Lewis is doing a great job turning a long time losing program into a consistent winner.

So not all football participation news is down.
 
Interesting how some schools do it out in SWVA. Makes sense some schools are changing their format if numbers are low.

All NND schools (and most in Region A as far as I know) have always done it like Riverheads. 8th graders play JV VHSL sports with 9th and 10th graders.

Varsity is for 11th and 12th graders but 10th graders and a few good 9th graders can play Varsity sports if pulled up.

I dont know that you were referencing RH in the one statement, but in this area 10th graders all play Varsity not JV. There may have been 10 total from all the schools up here over last 10 years and probably not that many
 
Allot of 1A-2A schools have went to a 9th grade team with 8th and 9th graders on that team and 10,11,12 on varsity because of low numbers.
Galax has always been 8th and 9th grade for JV as far as i know, I think starting last year a few 10th graders that didn't get any playing time on varsity got to play down.
 
JV eligibility is strange as it doesnt line up across the state. I know when I played football at West Point, we had a JV game at Christchurch postponed over an hour because they had 11th-graders on their JV team and didn’t realize they couldn’t play them versus our JV team heavy with 8th graders. But in my recent past at a C5 school in VA, there were definitely juniors playing JV sports here and there.

Anyone know the current rule? Is it football-specific to avoid 8th graders hitting 11th graders or are there different rules for different classifications? I’ve been out of coaching a few years now, so not sure how it works at present.
 
JV eligibility is strange as it doesnt line up across the state. I know when I played football at West Point, we had a JV game at Christchurch postponed over an hour because they had 11th-graders on their JV team and didn’t realize they couldn’t play them versus our JV team heavy with 8th graders. But in my recent past at a C5 school in VA, there were definitely juniors playing JV sports here and there.

Anyone know the current rule? Is it football-specific to avoid 8th graders hitting 11th graders or are there different rules for different classifications? I’ve been out of coaching a few years now, so not sure how it works at present.

Other sports have them, so I think it's just football and some areas do have 10 graders, just in this area we dont usually
 
VHSL rules cover varsity programs - eligibility starts upon entering 9th grade.
JV is NOT covered - districts set their own rules.

Back in the day, some classmates gave me a hard time my Sr. year for hangin' w/ a JV cheerleader from a rival school one night. She was a Jr. who stayed JV because the cheer coach wanted her to be the Capt. since they had a lot of new girls coming in.
 
Jv is different by school. Some have 7th,8th,9th as Jv team while the schools on the opposite side of them 10 to 15 miles away had a 8th grade team with 7th and 8th graders and a Jv team of 9th and 10th
 
were they in the same district?
It can also depend on turnout/popularity.
Back in the 80's. Grundy had an 8th grade team and a JV team, while a couple of other dist. schools didn't have enuf kids for both.
 
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT