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Season 2 sports outside can have 250 spectators

mike salem

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Seems like it could be more if tickets were prepaid, and in reserved seating areas, so people are not bunched up in line or in stands.
 
Seems like it could be more if tickets were prepaid, and in reserved seating areas, so people are not bunched up in line or in stands.
We don't have reserved seating areas out here. Bleachers only. And how would you handle the ticket sales? Gate, first come first served? Online advanced ticket sales only by lottery? This is gonna be a mess.
 
Well, they taped pieces of paper to bleachers in gym during basketball. I am not talking about numbered seats, just family areas and then extra spaced spots for whoever is left.
 
From what I've heard, but can not verify, the Govenors office is saying ABSOLUTELY NO bands or cheerleaders, NO exceptions.

Before someone crucifies the VHSL, it's not, nor ever has been in their hands. If the Govenor changes his mind, then the decision goes directly to the school systems. The VHSL would only have a say at state level playoff games, (semi-finals and finals).
 
So far here in regressive James City County (Williamsburg) regardless of the Governor’s 250 limit, the no fans at games is still in effect. Hopefully the three high schools Head Coaches and ADs will convince the scared of their own shadow Board of Education to change the criteria. I may just stand outside the gate to watch to spite them.
 
It’s up to the school district. VHSL has no say so. There will be another update from Gov. Blackface this Monday with more guidance. Hopefully they will allow at least 40% capacity.
 
so with the 250, is that counting the player and coaches, or just 250 fans not including palyers
 
Even if they allow 25% capacity and parents should be able to get in, the ADs/DSAs are faced with another dilemma: Do you prioritize students, or other fans, when determining who gets in? Students have a valid argument since it is their school and their friends are on the field. But what about the other fans, like the majority of posters on this board, who have been following "their" school(s) and the game for years, decades in some cases? We tend to be the core supporters who love the game and support it in many ways other than sitting in the stands on a Friday night, and a lot of the kids go mostly for social reasons, but how many of each group do you allow in?
 
Even if they allow 25% capacity and parents should be able to get in, the ADs/DSAs are faced with another dilemma: Do you prioritize students, or other fans, when determining who gets in? Students have a valid argument since it is their school, and their friends are on the field. But what about the other fans, iike the majority of posters on this board, who have been following "their" school(s) and the game for years, decades in some cases? We tend to be the core supporters who love the game and support it in many ways other than sitting in the stands on a Friday night, and a lot of the kids go mostly for social reasons, but how many of each group do you allow in?
Don't you have any easy questions? You know, like the formula for lasting world peace???
 
If winter sports were any indications, most schools will prioritize students first(cheer/band), then parents(hopefully 2 per participant). After those are accounted for you will have a limited number of slots left from the original 250.

Personally, I think that instead of opening up the rest of the tickets to the general public, they should offer additional tickets to the participants' families. Fans will all have future years to attend games and cheer their teams, but the families only get one shot at this.
 
Just saw one school tweet out info on a game and said they were waiting to hear from school if opposing school tickets would be available. That's encouraging that away fans might be an option.
 
If winter sports were any indications, most schools will prioritize students first(cheer/band), then parents(hopefully 2 per participant). After those are accounted for you will have a limited number of slots left from the original 250.

Personally, I think that instead of opening up the rest of the tickets to the general public, they should offer additional tickets to the participants' families. Fans will all have future years to attend games and cheer their teams, but the families only get one shot at this.
That sounds good and all but you’d be surprised at the number of families who could careless. Sad but true.
 
Sure, there’s deadbeat parents (or parents who can’t miss work for the games), but that’s not a convincing reason to restrict family tickets in favor of general public sales.
 
Tickets should be made available first come basis with pre sales at the school and remaining tickets at the field, starting 1 hour prior to game time.
 
Tickets should be made available first come basis with pre sales at the school and remaining tickets at the field, starting 1 hour prior to game time.

You didn’t mention the other variables. Like cheer/bands/athlete families. There’s a lot more to it than just putting 250 tickets up for sale. Any ideas how you would deal with those variables in this situation?
 
So far here in regressive James City County (Williamsburg) regardless of the Governor’s 250 limit, the no fans at games is still in effect. Hopefully the three high schools Head Coaches and ADs will convince the scared of their own shadow Board of Education to change the criteria. I may just stand outside the gate to watch to spite them.
Doesn't James City County restrict their varsity football roster to 45 players? This may not sound like a big deal, especially these days, but many schools in Class 3 and 4 still get 60 to 100 kids to come out. Why restrict it to 45? To save a few bucks on equipment cost? I can understand a restriction on how many travel to away games, but to just be on the roster? Do they limit the number of band members? I doubt it. Just think about the money they could save on tubas and xylophones if they restricted band size!!!
 
You didn’t mention the other variables. Like cheer/bands/athlete families. There’s a lot more to it than just putting 250 tickets up for sale. Any ideas how you would deal with those variables in this situation?
From what I understand there will be no cheer or bands. Athlete families can get their tickets pre game at the school via their players.
 
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Doesn't James City County restrict their varsity football roster to 45 players? This may not sound like a big deal, especially these days, but many schools in Class 3 and 4 still get 60 to 100 kids to come out. Why restrict it to 45? To save a few bucks on equipment cost? I can understand a restriction on how many travel to away games, but to just be on the roster? Do they limit the number of band members? I doubt it. Just think about the money they could save on tubas and xylophones if they restricted band size!!!
During normal seasons there is a restriction on varsity , no restriction on JV, so in total there are 80-90 players in full uniform. The idea is to get as many actually playing in some manner snd not bench warming. I know of no restrictions on band membership but I’ve never seen any Bay Rivers band at an away game. This year JV is not playing, it is eliminated so I have heard that varsity is increasing the number of players by a fair amount.
 
Sounds like he wants people camping out like Krzyzewskiville.
In all the games in my area I have been to over the years, an hour before game time very few spectators have arrived, most are late arriving. No need to “camp out”.
 
Here in Williamsburg , Wanner Stadium holds 3,000. At a limit of 25%, the limit would be 750. Except for the occasional intra county games and a few playoff games this would allow any fan who wants attend to get in the stands. Of course I’ve still not heard JCC is allowing any fans. York county might. That would be interesting, I could attend the away games snd not the home games.
 
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In all the games in my area I have been to over the years, an hour before game time very few spectators have arrived, most are late arriving. No need to “camp out”.
He specifically asked about 250 tickets, not your 750 situation. In most areas, the demand would exceed 250. Which would lead to camping out if you forced people to line up at gate as you proposed.
 
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Yeah, I agree that outdoor venues should be percentage of capacity, but I’m not in charge!
 
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He specifically asked about 250 tickets, not your 750 situation. In most areas, the demand would exceed 250. Which would lead to camping out if you forced people to line up at gate as you proposed.
Maybe in your area not in Williamsburg, York Co or a number of Southside 3A or 4A schools from what I have seen, even with a 250 limit. But remember in my proposal you can buy pre-game at the school to avoid any lines and ensure availability. If the demand is very high in one area the tickets would all be sold pre game and not at the gate.
 
People are anxious to do stuff again. I think demand will definitely outpace the supply. And how many of the 250 are eaten into by operations staff, band & cheer? You start to get it down to a pool of tickets so small that it just makes sense to offer tickets to player families both home and away. If there are unused tickets, schools could reach out to player families to offer up the extras.

I suppose you could sell tickets, but it seems silly with such a low cap on total stadium non-participant numbers.

Maybe new Governor guidance coming on Monday?
 
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It is my understanding that players, staff, and "essential" personnel do not count against the 250 allotment.

Band and cheerleaders do count against the 250.

I heard that Dinwiddie intends to give two tickets to each player, and one ticket to each band member and cheerleader.
I'm sure that will eat up most of the 250. But, we only have two home games, and I think the first home game is week three, so as WP02 mentioned above, maybe we will see a change to a higher attendance before then.
 
The pathetic thing is that college and pro football games in fans in the stands had no increase in COVID cases. This is just a carbon copy case of a liberal governor trying to put on people who want to enjoy something that has for years given communities and students something special to look forward to.
 
It appears in the William Monroe at Manassas Park game, visiting players families can purchase 2 tickets.(according to WM twitter)
 
On the Lafayette website today they were promoting the NHFS network as all Bay River Games will be shown thru them. I guess this means fans are still not in the stands.
 
On the Lafayette website today they were promoting the NHFS network as all Bay River Games will be shown thru them. I guess this means fans are still not in the stands.

That really does stink. I’m sorry man.
 
I grew up in Indiana. They played a full, fall season with playoffs & Championships at all levels. Capacity was set at 1000 spectators, 500 on each side of the field, separate entrances for each school & all tickets were purchased at their school. I received updates for how many tickets were left. Normally, of course, by game day they sold out. No hint of camping out and I believe there was a limit of only 2 tickets per purchase.

Have there been any outbreaks occurred from High School Football anywhere in the country?? Too bad politics have affected our kids like this!!! Remember VHSL is based in ultra-woke, Charlottesville! UVA just announced that their students shouldn't leave their dorms & apartments!!! AND the positivity rate is down to about 8%!!!!
 
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VHSL is out there retweeting the Bristol Superintendent’s rebuke of the governor’s capacity max. I don’t think your ire should be directed at some mythical liberal windmill in Charlottesville. It’s all on the Governor.
 
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