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Shenandoah Teams Fare Better in First Round Than Valley

longtimerhsfan

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Dec 12, 2006
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This time last week, we had seven Shenandoah District teams and three Valley District teams looking forward to the post-season. Granted those do not sound like fair odds, but the system is what it is and until it is changed, we will have 5-5 teams sitting at home while 0-10 teams get to move on.

But who could have guessed that in the very first week of action, the Valley would get completely wiped out whereas the Shenandoah still has four teams alive. So here is a recap of what happened and what we might see happen in Round Two.

Harrisonburg lost at Brooke Point in the 5-A playoffs. (I know what some of you local folks are saying......."WHO???") But it is what it is, to use that expression for the second time already here today, and until H'burg gets its second high school built, any playoff action for the Streaks will likely involve a lot of new opponents and a lot of trips to strange places. I doubt if their overall success rate will be that great because they have just grown so incredibly fast that they are not ready for the higher levels of competition.

Rockbridge County traveled to Western Albemarle and lost 33-17 in what sounded like a halfway decent game. As close as WA is to this area, you would think it would get more media coverage over here, but they might as well be on the other side of the country.

And in the biggest Valley surprise of the night, Spotswood lost at home to Liberty Bedford 40-38. I am sure lots of folks expected great things from the Trailblazers. If I am not mistaken, they went into that game riding something like a 9-game winning streak.

Moving to the 'Doah, East Rock took care of Wilson although I give the Hornets credit for keeping it closer this time and coming up with a big play or two.

Luray and Lee had themselves a donnybrook. (By the way I tried to listen to the radio feed and could not get anything to happen.) So the Dogs travel to Central this week. Anything can happen in the playoffs, but the Central team I saw (granted one time only) is at least 3-4 touchdowns better than the Luray team I saw (also only one time.)

Then in what sounded like the individual performance of the season, Rivenburg rocked Clarke County 32-21, earning him and his Bison a re-match at East Rock. As dominant as the Eagles have been this season, you would think they could still handle the Gap, even if he has another outing like that one. But if there is an upset in the making this weekend, then Elkton might just be the place to see it. Some sources say the Eagles were not "themselves" in that 35-28 squeaker at Buffalo Gap this year and that a focused East Rock team will destroy the Bison. But if BG gets even one shred of a dose of early confidence, I could see this one going down to the wire.

That leaves the 1-A playoffs, which can be summed up pretty quickly. Stonewall, despite an 0-10 record, "earned" a playoff spot and lost at Altavista 47-29. But you know what...........I for one have to give serious props to the Generals for even showing up and making any kind of game at all out of it. Surely there had to be players and parents and maybe even some coaches asking "Why do we have to go down there and get humiliated?" but it sounds as if they gave a good solid effort and who knows, that could benefit them down the road.

As for Altavista now moving on to face Riverheads this week, I don't see that one as even being close. The Gladiators have too many weapons and I think they will put this one away early. Having the week off, which they hated I can assure you, they "might" come out a little rusty, but I doubt it.

In the meantime, the Lady Gladiators have given us PLENTY of excitement to fill the void and they just might not be finished yet! We will find out more about that Tuesday night.
 
This time last week, we had seven Shenandoah District teams and three Valley District teams looking forward to the post-season. Granted those do not sound like fair odds, but the system is what it is and until it is changed, we will have 5-5 teams sitting at home while 0-10 teams get to move on.

But who could have guessed that in the very first week of action, the Valley would get completely wiped out whereas the Shenandoah still has four teams alive. So here is a recap of what happened and what we might see happen in Round Two.

Harrisonburg lost at Brooke Point in the 5-A playoffs. (I know what some of you local folks are saying......."WHO???") But it is what it is, to use that expression for the second time already here today, and until H'burg gets its second high school built, any playoff action for the Streaks will likely involve a lot of new opponents and a lot of trips to strange places. I doubt if their overall success rate will be that great because they have just grown so incredibly fast that they are not ready for the higher levels of competition.

Rockbridge County traveled to Western Albemarle and lost 33-17 in what sounded like a halfway decent game. As close as WA is to this area, you would think it would get more media coverage over here, but they might as well be on the other side of the country.

And in the biggest Valley surprise of the night, Spotswood lost at home to Liberty Bedford 40-38. I am sure lots of folks expected great things from the Trailblazers. If I am not mistaken, they went into that game riding something like a 9-game winning streak.

Moving to the 'Doah, East Rock took care of Wilson although I give the Hornets credit for keeping it closer this time and coming up with a big play or two.

Luray and Lee had themselves a donnybrook. (By the way I tried to listen to the radio feed and could not get anything to happen.) So the Dogs travel to Central this week. Anything can happen in the playoffs, but the Central team I saw (granted one time only) is at least 3-4 touchdowns better than the Luray team I saw (also only one time.)

Then in what sounded like the individual performance of the season, Rivenburg rocked Clarke County 32-21, earning him and his Bison a re-match at East Rock. As dominant as the Eagles have been this season, you would think they could still handle the Gap, even if he has another outing like that one. But if there is an upset in the making this weekend, then Elkton might just be the place to see it. Some sources say the Eagles were not "themselves" in that 35-28 squeaker at Buffalo Gap this year and that a focused East Rock team will destroy the Bison. But if BG gets even one shred of a dose of early confidence, I could see this one going down to the wire.

That leaves the 1-A playoffs, which can be summed up pretty quickly. Stonewall, despite an 0-10 record, "earned" a playoff spot and lost at Altavista 47-29. But you know what...........I for one have to give serious props to the Generals for even showing up and making any kind of game at all out of it. Surely there had to be players and parents and maybe even some coaches asking "Why do we have to go down there and get humiliated?" but it sounds as if they gave a good solid effort and who knows, that could benefit them down the road.

As for Altavista now moving on to face Riverheads this week, I don't see that one as even being close. The Gladiators have too many weapons and I think they will put this one away early. Having the week off, which they hated I can assure you, they "might" come out a little rusty, but I doubt it.

In the meantime, the Lady Gladiators have given us PLENTY of excitement to fill the void and they just might not be finished yet! We will find out more about that Tuesday night.
Thanks for making the Luray boys big underdogs.If we play like we did when we beat Gap 28-21 we have a chance.
 
Best of luck to you. For the sake of district pride, I would like nothing better than to see an all-Shenandoah regional final, but I just don't see it happening for you.
 
Without seeing Central I cant give a true prediction, and I wish I had gone with my eyes and picked Luray over Lee because that is what I saw, even if I could see how Lee could beat them. I think Luray can certainly play with them, they were very physical with SD. Their backs all ran HARD. Wouldn't surprise me if they win
 
I only saw Luray in a scrimmage, and Central in Week 1, but Central was 10 touchdowns better than Luray from what I saw. But I think Luray must have been missing players that day. Luray's only chance is to control the clock and limit Central possessions. If Central gets too many possessions, they will use their speed to take it to the house too often for Luray to catch up.
 
The key for Luray might be to have something positive happen in the early going. When Central came to Riverheads, they scored two quick touchdowns, one on a punt return and another on a pass play and the Big Red could have panicked. But when they didn't and then started to make plays of their own, Central kind of came unraveled and committed about three turnovers the rest of the way.

So from that limited exposure to them, maybe they do not handle a challenge or adversity well and that a good start or a late surge from the Dogs might cause them problems. Just my two cents.........
 
Let’s be honest, no one has seen these teams as often as their supporters. With that said, unless Luray is significantly better than the scores they have given up to less capable teams in the doah that we play, I don’t see them being within 3 scores. Central has the potential to compete with ER which i don’t believe Luray can. As with any game it’s about matchups. Can Luray win more of them than they lose against Central. I have tons of respect for how hard nosed and physical Luray can be but they gave up 20+ seven times out of their 11 games. I don’t see them limiting Centrals potent running attack, there just isn’t enough horses in the stable this year. Get mad if you want but ON PAPER it’s not close. Luray still has a sluggers chance but things have to go their way and they need to have one of those very special nights. Good luck as like Longtime, I really want to see an all Shenandoah regional championship.
 
Let’s be honest, no one has seen these teams as often as their supporters. With that said, unless Luray is significantly better than the scores they have given up to less capable teams in the doah that we play, I don’t see them being within 3 scores. Central has the potential to compete with ER which i don’t believe Luray can. As with any game it’s about matchups. Can Luray win more of them than they lose against Central. I have tons of respect for how hard nosed and physical Luray can be but they gave up 20+ seven times out of their 11 games. I don’t see them limiting Centrals potent running attack, there just isn’t enough horses in the stable this year. Get mad if you want but ON PAPER it’s not close. Luray still has a sluggers chance but things have to go their way and they need to have one of those very special nights. Good luck as like Longtime, I really want to see an all Shenandoah regional championship.
I'm not mad,we have a lot of young kids and you never know,That's why they play the game.
 
Let’s be honest, no one has seen these teams as often as their supporters. With that said, unless Luray is significantly better than the scores they have given up to less capable teams in the doah that we play, I don’t see them being within 3 scores. Central has the potential to compete with ER which i don’t believe Luray can. As with any game it’s about matchups. Can Luray win more of them than they lose against Central. I have tons of respect for how hard nosed and physical Luray can be but they gave up 20+ seven times out of their 11 games. I don’t see them limiting Centrals potent running attack, there just isn’t enough horses in the stable this year. Get mad if you want but ON PAPER it’s not close. Luray still has a sluggers chance but things have to go their way and they need to have one of those very special nights. Good luck as like Longtime, I really want to see an all Shenandoah regional championship.
Several times this year we have scored early and for some reason let teams back in the game,for instance at Madison we'er up 21-0 and let Madison score twice in 37 seconds just before halftime making it 21-13.
 
There are always some very tough players at Luray. My point is that the Central team is as tough and in my opinion has more skill players. As evidenced by Gaps season, the right player can carry a solid team far. If you take Rivenburg away from Gap they miss the playoffs. So it’s possible that Luray could pull it off but the only time I was witness to the Bulldogs, I didn’t see a “Rivenburg” on the field. Again good luck as I will be pulling for you guys to win.
 
There are always some very tough players at Luray. My point is that the Central team is as tough and in my opinion has more skill players. As evidenced by Gaps season, the right player can carry a solid team far. If you take Rivenburg away from Gap they miss the playoffs. So it’s possible that Luray could pull it off but the only time I was witness to the Bulldogs, I didn’t see a “Rivenburg” on the field. Again good luck as I will be pulling for you guys to win.

So Central is a hard nosed team like Luray? I just assumed from the talks they were a speed athletic team. If they are a tough team like Luray and have more skill, that will be extremely difficult for the Bulldogs
 
My opinion is that they are hard nosed. It was a weather game in one sense when they came to G’ville but I don’t see why they would stray far from the tailback. He is athletic and runs behind his pads. The SE that caught the TD and ran the Punt is fast and somewhat elusive but needs to be in space to make an impact. They are not straight up smash mouth 4 yds cloud of dust tough but I believe they can grind with the best of them if a game calls for that.

Luray is similar but just a smidge slower by the ole eyeball. I don’t think Luray can throw the little
dagger screens and swing the ball to the outside on Central. They can run between the tackles but have to be committed to owning the POA. Be satisfied with 3yds, then line up and do it again.

Can Luray sustain that? For that matter can Central? Heck I done talked myself into this being a closer game again. Dang you Gunz, got me all up in my analysis and stuff.
 
My opinion is that they are hard nosed. It was a weather game in one sense when they came to G’ville but I don’t see why they would stray far from the tailback. He is athletic and runs behind his pads. The SE that caught the TD and ran the Punt is fast and somewhat elusive but needs to be in space to make an impact. They are not straight up smash mouth 4 yds cloud of dust tough but I believe they can grind with the best of them if a game calls for that.

Luray is similar but just a smidge slower by the ole eyeball. I don’t think Luray can throw the little
dagger screens and swing the ball to the outside on Central. They can run between the tackles but have to be committed to owning the POA. Be satisfied with 3yds, then line up and do it again.

Can Luray sustain that? For that matter can Central? Heck I done talked myself into this being a closer game again. Dang you Gunz, got me all up in my analysis and stuff.

Well good. From what I remember hearing, Luray didn't "play" bad against Riverheads, except the fact they had like 7 TOs.

When I watched the Luray/Draft game, there wasnt a time I really thought, we are superior to them. Not start of 4th when it was 18-18. There wasnt a time during the Draft game against Gap that I actually thought Gap was better, whether SD won or lost. Back and forth with the Wilson game, just like the score. Lee was better than Draft because of Lawler. Like I said, I could see how Lee beat them, but I think Luray was the 3rd best team in district from the games I saw.

Central could blow them out, didn't see them or Luray could stand tough. But I think that Luray is more battle tested.
 
There are always some very tough players at Luray. My point is that the Central team is as tough and in my opinion has more skill players. As evidenced by Gaps season, the right player can carry a solid team far. If you take Rivenburg away from Gap they miss the playoffs. So it’s possible that Luray could pull it off but the only time I was witness to the Bulldogs, I didn’t see a “Rivenburg” on the field. Again good luck as I will be pulling for you guys to win.
I would agree with Rivenburg being Gap's playmaker. I did not see anyone else, but then again, nobody else got the chance. I hope he got 24 hours straight rest after that game!
 
I give Luray a chance because they are tough and hard-nosed. Central definitely has some tough kids but I don't think that's the overall theme for the program. They want it to be but at the end of the day, Clanton makes plays.
IF Luray can control the LOS and get a couple of breaks, then they will win.

Like Mike Tyson said. 'Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth'!
 
Centrals line is pretty big didn’t see Luray play but do know they will have their handsful to control los
 
I only saw Luray in a scrimmage, and Central in Week 1, but Central was 10 touchdowns better than Luray from what I saw. But I think Luray must have been missing players that day. Luray's only chance is to control the clock and limit Central possessions. If Central gets too many possessions, they will use their speed to take it to the house too often for Luray to catch up.
I don't think Central is 10 touchdowns better.
 
I don't think Central is 10 touchdowns better.
It was really just a point that just seeing a team once may not give you the best way to judge a matchup. I probably saw Luray on their worst day and Central on their best day.
 
Yeah 10 tds is way beyond reality. If both play to potential, in my opinion Central is 2tds better. Central has more speed for sure but a lousy field can make this a slobber knocker and that puts them closer to even. I have talked myself into them being closer.

The only common opponents are RHS and Strasburg. Both lost to Riverheads and both won against Strasburg. If you look at margin and such then you have to factor in when the game was played. I would argue any game played before week 3 has some subjectivity. Games later in the season tend to carry more weight with me due to the development of teams. Most good teams get better as the season progresses.

I brought Central up in the discussion in the first few weeks when the fella from Poquoson was throwing around who was guaranteed to be in Salem. I still say they have a shot but ER, Luray or Gap could make claims as to why and how they can go.

Good luck to all the teams in Division 2 Region B as I hope whomever survives this gauntlet hoist the trophy in Salem. With the right amount of luck it will be about 3 hours after the Red team wins a trophy.
 
I just want to point out, Luray is my 2nd favorite team and I wish they had won by 100 touchdowns.
 
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