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The Shenandoah District's Wild Battle for Second Place

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I probably should wait another game or two before bringing this up, because it will likely sort itself out, but you know me, when I have time on my hands here at work, I get on here and annoy you guys! Speaking of people annoying each other, this whole second place war is all East Rock's fault. If they were not so far ahead of everyone else this year, we might not have this problem.

Anyway, as of the moment, going into tonight's games, here are the four teams and a description of their situation.

WILSON (3 district losses): You might think that would give the Hornets the inside track to finish number two, but the truth is they have the toughest schedule ahead, with one guaranteed loss (at East Rock), one quite possible one (at Stuarts Draft), and one that "could" happen (at Page) for the simple reason that Page already won at Wilson earlier this year. If the Hornets can pull out wins at SD and PC, that would leave them with four losses and that should be enough to nail down the second seed. But a second loss, in addition to the one at East Rock, should be enough to keep them from clinching second all alone.

STUARTS DRAFT (4 district losses): As just mentioned, the Cougars still have a home game with Wilson. If they win that one, they would have a shot to leapfrog the Hornets and claim the second spot for themselves. However, they also end the regular season at Lee, so on that night, the Cougars might need a win to clinch. If they can beat both Wilson AND Lee, they should have second place all to themselves. If they were to lose both of those, they could drop all the way to the fifth spot.

LEE (5 district losses): Some sources say Lee has six district losses but I only count five (two to East Rock, and one each to Wilson, SD, and Riverheads.) Their eventual seeding will depend on their ability to defend their home court, as they still have home games against Riverheads and Stuarts Draft. I don't think they can mathematically get second all alone, but if they win out, they could tie for it and who knows what tie-breakers will be used.

RIVERHEADS (5 district losses): The Gladiators might have the least chance of claiming the second spot, if they have any at all. But if they win out, they should finish no lower than fourth and still get to host an opening round tournament game. They also have their sights set on elevating their point standing so they can hopefully still get the number one seed for the 1-A, Region B playoffs. The key game for RHS is the one at Lee, coming up Tuesday the 29th. A loss in that one might send the Big Red tumbling to the five spot and put them on the road for the first round of the tournament.

Anyway you slice it, it has been a wild year with teams splitting series, especially in cases where they split games by winning on each other's floors (Wilson/Lee, RHS/SD, and possibly Page/Wilson still to come.) Granted the district tournament will be a foregone conclusion due to East Rock's dominance, but hopefully more than one team can advance deep into the regional playoffs.
 
Other than East Rock, i feel this is one of the weaker Shenandoah Districts that we have seen in quite some time
 
I just saw on the news that Page beat Wilson tonight 77-70. So that wild scramble that I described above just got wilder. That now means that all four of those teams have either 4 or 5 district losses and each one will now control its own destiny. Not only that, but I believe Page went into the night with 6 losses and has apparently stepped up its game. Even if the Panthers can't climb up into the top four, they can play spoiler for other teams.

As for the above statement about the Shenandoah being weak overall, he could have a point, but the other perspective might be that East Rock is so darned good that it makes everyone else look weak.
 
The Bull Run is downright awful and I would say that the Shenandoah (excluding East Rock) is not a great deal better. Better but not that much.

East Rock will have to carry the Region B torch this year.
 
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The Bull Run is downright awful and I would say that the Shenandoah (excluding East Rock) is not a great deal better. Better but not that much.

East Rock will have to carry the Region B torch this year.

ER may be carrying that torch all the way to the state title game because it sounds like they are a great team. A close friend who officiates up that way has had them numerous times and he knows Hoops. He played at Radford University. He told me they can play with Radford and that they are a legitimate threat to win the whole thing. That's all I needed to hear. I don't need to see them if he says it. I know their darn good.
 
East Rock is legit. They are deep, very talented, well coached and athletic. I’d love to see them win it all. But I would never bet against Radford.
 
ER may be carrying that torch all the way to the state title game because it sounds like they are a great team. A close friend who officiates up that way has had them numerous times and he knows Hoops. He played at Radford University. He told me they can play with Radford and that they are a legitimate threat to win the whole thing. That's all I needed to hear. I don't need to see them if he says it. I know their darn good.
I was surprised that they didn't give Spotswood a better game Wednesday at East Rockingham. Yes, the Trailblazers (16-2,11 straight wins in 2019) are one of the top 3A teams in the state, but this ER team is darn good.

ER only lost by 8, but fell behind early and was just not able to get their offense in sync because of Spotswood's defense. ER kept it close in the second half but just not close enough.

They play again this Wednesday at Spotswood and I expect more of the same. Coach Edwards is one of the best and now rules the valley since Paul Hatcher retired.
 
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It will still be interesting to see who gets the second state bid out of the region. Central, George Mason, R.E.Lee, Wilson Memorial, Stuarts Draft...all would seem to have a shot. Once you get in...anything can happen. East Rock and Radford seem to be the top teams in the state.

Spotswood and East Rock meet again Wednesday I believe...
 
If anyone that gets in can have a shot .. the Page Panthers are one as well in that Shenandoah LogJam
 
It will still be interesting to see who gets the second state bid out of the region. Central, George Mason, R.E.Lee, Wilson Memorial, Stuarts Draft...all would seem to have a shot. Once you get in...anything can happen. East Rock and Radford seem to be the top teams in the state.

Spotswood and East Rock meet again Wednesday I believe...
This year’s GM team is about as bad as I have seen them. Central has a few athletes but is not a good basketball team. Madison has issues out the wazoo. I’s up to the ‘doah if Region B is to have a chance. Hate to be so negative sounding but the basketball this year is bad in the BRD.
 
This year’s GM team is about as bad as I have seen them. Central has a few athletes but is not a good basketball team. Madison has issues out the wazoo. I’s up to the ‘doah if Region B is to have a chance. Hate to be so negative sounding but the basketball this year is bad in the BRD.

Is it just young teams that will be better next season or...the talent overall. Of course...your district gets East Rock, Luray,Page, and Stonewall Jackson next season...if I have that right?
 
Is it just young teams that will be better next season or...the talent overall. Of course...your district gets East Rock, Luray,Page, and Stonewall Jackson next season...if I have that right?
GM just doesn’t seem to have the talent level as in the past. Only seen them play once and that was non distric. But their coach is really good so maybe they come around. Madison has the talent and experience; they start 5 seniors; including an all stater, 1000 point scorer. Somebody else will have to explain the boondoggle going on there that has lead to only 5-6 wins so far this year. Central has a good mix but much like their football team, under perform. From what I have been told, Strasburg is undersized and a player or two short. Clarke has not been relative in basketball for a good while. From what I understand, that is not changing anytime soon. Rapp is better but still Rapp.

I think you are correct about the addition of those 4 teams next year. I’m pretty sure Central and Mason are leaving to go 3A.

Rapp has a young team and may actually have the higher ceiling next year. Who knows about them. If Madison can put this year behind them, they have the nucleus of youth, talent to be a vastly improved TEAM. But I have a feeling that Page may be the team next year.

All this being said, I’ve only seen a few BRD games lately. Maybe the teams are improving...hope they are anyway.
 
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Check out any local travel tournament and you will see BAD boys basketball with BAD coaching. By the time they get to their high school coach they have so many BAD ingrained habits and attitudes that its all a lost cause. This isn't a case of 'cycles' this is just the product of the dam breaking.
True about the AAU plague. I actually saw/heard HS fans standing and clapping and high fiving when a kid made a nice cross over dribble— but then threw up an air ball! All that matters is style points!

But many of these teams play summer tournaments/camps with their school team and school coach. These coaches shouldn’t settle for the “motion” offense, reach “defense” and unwillingness to pass the dang ball.

Assists are NOT bad things! Some players seem to think making the extra pass or finding the open guy is taboo. From the frequency this occurs, many coaches must think that way as well.
 
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True about the AAU plague. I actually saw/heard HS fans standing and clapping and high fiving when a kid made a nice cross over dribble— but then threw up an air ball! All that matters is style points!

Oh my goodness, I'm so glad to hear that our area isn't the only place that this garbage exists. I'll see kids shake and bake and have a defender maybe slide the other direction and hear all the oohs and ahhs - then they miss the wide open shot. I thought the point of this game was to make shots and score more points than your opponent?? It happens with the 6 and 8 year old kids all the way up to the high school level.
 
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