The Loundon Schools are having great years but have had little to no success against teams from the Western end of the state.. What is lacking? What is needed? I don't know how Jefferson Forest is going to be next year but Salem may be just as good.
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I think next year's Salem team will definitely be better and the following year might be another step up.The Loundon Schools are having great years but have had little to no success against teams from the Western end of the state.. What is lacking? What is needed? I don't know how Jefferson Forest is going to be next year but Salem may be just as good.
They just need to stop growing so their schools stay in 4A. It hasn't been that long ago when they won 5 in a row with Broad Run & Briar Woods. Tuscarora moved to 5A quickly and established themselves as perennial powers. Stone Bridge also 5A is good every year. The best Loudoun Co schools are 5A. Woodgrove & Champe may be 5A next cycle as well.The Loundon Schools are having great years but have had little to no success against teams from the Western end of the state.. What is lacking? What is needed? I don't know how Jefferson Forest is going to be next year but Salem may be just as good.
Better question might be, what does the West have to do to take the next step?Nothing can be done, it's not a problem that plagues the area that everyone else has figured out. Sometimes you win games, sometimes you lose. JF and Salem were the West's 2 best teams this year regardless of seeding, that's all there is to it. I'm more than confident if you switched opponents the results would still hold to form. Much the same, if both LoCo teams won it wouldn't mean they had figured out this part of the state either.
Need to have 6A numbers playing in 4AThe Loundon Schools are having great years but have had little to no success against teams from the Western end of the state.. What is lacking? What is needed? I don't know how Jefferson Forest is going to be next year but Salem may be just as good.
I agree with you that under the old classifications loudoun schools did benefit from numbers... but so did other schools...Didn't Bird win it in 6a with 5a numbers, not sure when that took place but I know for a lot of years 5a was as tough or tougher than 6a (especially when phoebus and hampton where in that class), sometimes playing up is an advantage.They were winning 4A with 5A and 6A size schools. That's still the way to go. Now that they don't have to realign every two years (every four), they're likely to have 4A schools playing with 2200 students at some point.
Also I don't think Loudoun has any 6a schools...could be wrongThey were winning 4A with 5A and 6A size schools. That's still the way to go. Now that they don't have to realign every two years (every four), they're likely to have 4A schools playing with 2200 students at some point.
we are getting closer----don't be suprised the next few years.Talent level is cycling up at Salem not down after last year. By the way --Great job Spartans getting to the semis for the third straight year.Better question might be, what does the West have to do to take the next step?
I would agree...but this is no longer the case, hence phoebus is now a 3a, the number argument is now no longer relevant. The playing field is now level... as it should be. Fans of certain teams should be glad the system was what it was for so long...otherwise there might not be so much talk about "winning state" when the teams that were winning were playing in a watered down classification.Flat out, having 600-1000+ more kids to find players in is an enormous benefit. Especially on the line. You can find skill players anywhere but if you could find 5-6 kids with legit size to play line you can dominate 90% of the teams you'll see from the get-go. You can have FBS talent skill players but if they're surrounded by nothing they can only do so much. The 1A vs 6A matchup isn't impossible from a skill sense but it almost is from a line sense. Trying to find 5 good linemen in a school of 500 kids is way, way harder than a school of 2,000 kids.
They were winning 4A with 5A and 6A size schools. That's still the way to go. Now that they don't have to realign every two years (every four), they're likely to have 4A schools playing with 2200 students at some point.
Derp. That question his literally been asked on here multiple times with long threads.Better question might be, what does the West have to do to take the next step?
agree, and loudoun is one of like 90 counties in Va. we can't win it every year...Derp. That question his literally been asked on here multiple times with long threads.
Exactly! We got there early today and the Champe AD was kind enough to allow us to use the restroom before the gates opened. Really nice guy. I talked with him a few minutes, he's an old Loudoun County boy. He talked about the growth in that area. They were in the playoffs last year with a 7-3 record I think. They were in 3A. I asked him how many students Champ was built for and he said 1,800 and we're at that now. By the time the next alignment rolls around we'll 6A.Better question might be, what does the West have to do to take the next step?