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VolNation85
Xknight said:
So why do you think 3A is weak? Maybe its that LCA is that strong? I think that you would agree that Glenvar was one of the better teams in 2A and almost won the 2A state. Alleghany beat them badly and they lost to Turner Ashby who then lost badly to LCA. Guess we will see about LCA next year and if they don't bring in a lot of new players then I will come on here and admit that I am wrong. We will see.
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My professional opinion that Class 3 is weak is because there is a lack of depth among the quality of teams. Meaning, there is only 2-3 teams that have a real chance to win the championship each year; More likely than not the Class 3 champion will be LCA, Heritage, Lafayette (prior to next year), Phoebus (before they moved to Class 4) and Hopewell a few years ago.

Also, this year's LCA team was the least athletic and talented team they have had since 2018 yet they dominated their playoff opponents. LCA's best teams since joining VHSL were between 2019-2022 yet they only advanced to 1 championship championship game (lost to Phoebus) during that time span because Class 3 was more competitive then. That's my opinion from having coached high school football for 18 years and coached against LCA from 2015-2022.
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General172011 said:
Maury
North Stafford
Massaponax
Salem
GW
Highland Springs
Varina
What are we talking about??
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I should have remembered that DInwiddie played North Staffford this year considering I work there. LOL But I don't recall Dinwiddie playing HSHS or Massaponax in recent years. What years was that? Also, Varina, GW, and Salem are Class 4. The original post was in reference to Class 5 and Class 6 schools.
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VolNation85 said:
Salem never plays any C5 or C6 teams at all except for Fleming and Franklin County in their district. Dinwiddie is a great program but the only C5 or C6 team they have played OOD in recent years if Maury and that was a blowout. I agree with Varina and Phoebus playing C5 and C6 teams close regularly.
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Maury
North Stafford
Massaponax
Salem
GW
Highland Springs
Varina
What are we talking about??
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General172011 said:
Louisa because of their schedule is going to more than likely get the 4 seed unless Varina Dinwiddie or Huguenot loses 2 games. SOS will determine the #1 seed again. I just don’t see them making the Championship game right off the bat.
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I know for a fact Dinwiddie will roll through their schedule I do not see anyone challenging them besides Maury and Thomas Dale if Maury will still be on the schedule now the playoffs will be the only concern
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General172011 said:
Dinwiddie is not rebuilding. We had 8 seniors, 6 who played. We return 9 on defense & 7 on offense we will be fine
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Dinwiddie isn’t rebuilding, but more so filling the shoes of key players like 6 and 4 is a big challenge. While the team is well-coached by one of the greatest coaching staff and disciplined, the other guys will need to step up and do twice as much to match the production of those past standouts. Because with that lost to Varina and with their team coming back we all have to wonder what will it really take for them to win. With teams like Varina, Lafayette, and Louisa bringing back a lot of returning talent, and Phoebus being the defending champs and I believe Huguenot playing that underdog role Dinwiddie will have to keep up to compete knowing their history I know it may not be hard, It’s a huge ask, but the field will show if they can rise to the occasion.
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Illegal participation

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The ball is not live until it is legally snapped. So yes, once he has his hand on it, substitutions, shifts, and other things are legal because he hasn't snapped it. he cannot remove his hand from the ball, but other players can move around.

The center is allowed to roll the ball so the laces are where he wants them. He's not supposed to flip it end-to-end but I don't know many people getting too worried about that -- no real advantage gained. He's not to move it, although sometimes the ball gets pushed forward a few inches. The officials might let that go, but the line of scrimmage doesn't change so if a defender is now over the ball. he should be excused. And if an offensive player crowds up to a ball that's been moved forward a bit, he's likely guilty od encroachment. so it's a risk you take, On an incomplete pass, the ball will be reset by the box so it will be back to ewhere it was.
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I can see everyone’s view I do believe if everyone stays healthy I see

(Early Predictions)

4A
Phoebus vs Lafayette

4B
Louisa vs Varina

4C
Tuscarora vs Loudoun County

4D
Salem vs GW

But like Bo said if Louisa do not have a line and defense I do not see it happening from what I see their entire line is coming back. If they can’t do good there I have

Varina Vs Dinwiddie or Huguenot even though they do not live up to the hype at times.
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Blog Class 6 Final: Oscar Smith Tigers (14-0) vs. James Madison Warhawks (14-0)

General172011
Bounty13 said:
To add some context to Madison’s penalty, the wide receiver at the top of the field near the 10 yard line removed his helmet, threw it/left it on the field, and another player from the sideline had to go and retrieve it. Removing your helmet on the field has always been a no-no, even in celebration. Calling that is instinctual for the refs, don’t blame them.
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You beat me to the punch, I saw the video of it happening this morning. You got to be smarter than that, can’t throw your helmet on the field during a play while celebrating & your team can’t just run on the field. It sucks how it ended but it was the right call by rule
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CrushBlock said:
Salem returns 2 explosive running backs that’s were sophomores last year and going to be juniors next year.

Will be replacing 3 very good offensive linemen. Those 3 linemen were top tier Salem offensive linemen, but Salem tends to reload in this department. Time will tell

Have a very solid qb coming up from JV.

Defense returns a lot of kids who were freshman sophomores and juniors this year.

Hard to tell how they will do, but other Salem teams have won state championships against similar talent while returning far less starters. Will just have to see how the kids grow in the off season.

Excited to see next years team.
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I will always remember the 1999 team at Salem. They had to rebuild after 98 team (14-0 State Champs) graduated 19 starting positions. They proceeded to go 14-0 , State Champions
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Graham vs Strasburg

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Graham could have won the state title running wishbone this year. Nobody was getting on here telling Appomattox they needed to get in empty while they were running inside / outside veer and midline on their way to 6 state titles... Why? Because they had D1 athletes all over the field.

Every time someone loses a game you've got a group of people on here acting like it was coaching malpractice if the losing team didn't throw the ball enough times for their liking. Sometimes a good team just meets a "gooder" team.
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RealQuestions0205 said:
Congratulations to Phoebus High School on securing the 2024 Class 4 State Championship title. As we look ahead to the 2025 season, Division 4 is set to become even more competitive with the additions of Louisa and Lafayette, two programs bringing exceptional talent and depth to the field.

Louisa enters the division with a young, promising team, including 2-3 highly-touted 5-star recruits at wide receiver and running back. Their combination of talent and youth makes them a serious contender for years to come. Lafayette, similarly, adds strength to the division with a roster largely intact, as only 4-5 seniors are graduating. These additions undoubtedly deepen the competition and set the stage for an exciting 2025 season.

While Phoebus boasts an outstanding quarterback, who was instrumental in their championship run, they face the challenge of significant roster turnover, losing many key seniors. My question is: How will Phoebus regroup and maintain their dominance in a division that is only getting stronger?

Varina, despite some chatter after their recent performances, returns nearly all of their key players, with only 3-4 seniors graduating. Their continuity and talent make them a formidable opponent to many powerhouses, especially as they face teams like Dinwiddie, Phoebus, Huguenot and Louisa, Dinwiddie will be navigating a quarterback change after losing a great QB in 6 and the loss of critical linemen and top receivers (#2 and #4). If these teams meet, Dinwiddie will need to make serious adjustments, as the scoreline in their previous matchup may not have reflected Varina’s full potential and maybe potential spots for other teams to attack. How does Dinwiddie plan to rebuild, and can Varina capitalize on their returning talent to cement themselves as a top contender?

With Louisa County and Lafayette emerging as new threats, the power dynamics in Division 4 are shifting. Should teams across the division be worried about the rise of these two programs, and how will the traditional powerhouses respond to the challenge?
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those young kids are gonna be sliced and diced by the rigors of Region 4B. It is gonna be an achievement just to make the top 12.
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