cutnjump said:

"Recommendation" to who? If it was just a "Recommendation" then why is there a need to appeal until an actual decision has been handed down? This situation, if handled properly, could have been decided long before now. However, whoever greenlighted the original sham investigation in the FCPS just muddied the water instead of designing a true independent investigation of facts to resolve the matter. Whoever has true oversight for the FCPS Board and administrators should likely be asking, maybe even long before now, some very specific, and likely uncomfortable, questions of the parties involved.

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From my understanding it is a recommendation from VHSL to FCPS and the Class 6 Region C principals and ADs (all of whom are FCPS schools). FCPS has already conducted their investigation and concluded no wrong doing. I would not be surprised at all if nothing comes of this and Hayfield meets Oscar Smith in the state championship game December 14th.

If he kicked it, there would have been a flag for illegal kicking. You can only legally kick the ball as a free kick or an obvious (read: controlled) scrimmage kick. When I say 'controlled," I mean that even if it's a scrimmage kick situation, the kick has to be controlled. If the ball is dropped and loose on the ground, the kicker cannot try kick a loose ball off the ground.

They're both half right. 10 yards from previous spot.

FootballFan1967 said:

Graham only has a starting o-line. You missed the part where they don’t even have enough for a JV. Starting o-line are backups for d-line, starting d-line are backups for o-line. Graham doesn’t even have a back up QB. They have two that start, one primarily passes & the other works out of Wildcat and primarily runs it. There isn’t a 3rd string QB to put in. No one is making excuses but to imply Graham left all the starters in to run up the score isn’t accurate. Tony Palmer has never been known for running up the score. He normally pulls as many starters as possible in a blowout even when opposing teams don’t.

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You missed the part about taking a knee. If you are up 30 on a team you have beaten easily over the past several years why try to score another touchdown? Does it matter if the starters or the 2nd string is in? This is just one example of why others don't care for Graham or their antics.

FootballFan1967 said:

Graham only has a starting o-line. You missed the part where they don’t even have enough for a JV. Starting o-line are backups for d-line, starting d-line are backups for o-line. Graham doesn’t even have a back up QB. They have two that start, one primarily passes & the other works out of Wildcat and primarily runs it. There isn’t a 3rd string QB to put in. No one is making excuses but to imply Graham left all the starters in to run up the score isn’t accurate. Tony Palmer has never been known for running up the score. He normally pulls as many starters as possible in a blowout even when opposing teams don’t.

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Fair enough point about the backups.

But then you said he has never been known for running up the score.

But other folks have said in this thread that they made attempts to score more points in the last moments of the last two games, with both scores being well in hand.

And we’ve already talked about the onside kicks in the 4th quarter on a running clock.

It’s crazy how different people see things different ways. Maybe you’re too close to the situation to see it for what it really is?

Maybe you want to discredit me because you think I’m coming down to hard on Graham/Coach Palmer.

Either way is fine.

I only started replying because I appreciated GHS87’s reply. I agreed with most of what he said. If he can see what he has seen & said what he said, we all can.

if you don’t want to, that’s fine. We can all agree to disagree on what is the best way handle our selves and the youth.

7MileFord said:

Starting offensive line. Starting quarterback. Receivers split out wide on both sides didn’t even move. What are you trying to justify?

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Graham only has a starting o-line. You missed the part where they don’t even have enough for a JV. Starting o-line are backups for d-line, starting d-line are backups for o-line. Graham doesn’t even have a back up QB. They have two that start, one primarily passes & the other works out of Wildcat and primarily runs it. There isn’t a 3rd string QB to put in. No one is making excuses but to imply Graham left all the starters in to run up the score isn’t accurate. Tony Palmer has never been known for running up the score. He normally pulls as many starters as possible in a blowout even when opposing teams don’t.

DinwiddieProud said:

Just had to get Meridian in there didn’t you?

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It was my goal for the week. 😅

From another poster, it seems the game was stopped due to an altercation with Brunswick ahead 18-6, but no information on whether the game was called final or will be completed.

Ech8014 said:

VHSL director of communications Mike McCall clarified to the Times-Dispatch on Saturday that the league's sanctions are a "recommendation." I'm just saying, folks, better not count this as a done deal.

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"Recommendation" to who? If it was just a "Recommendation" then why is there a need to appeal until an actual decision has been handed down? This situation, if handled properly, could have been decided long before now. However, whoever greenlighted the original sham investigation in the FCPS just muddied the water instead of designing a true independent investigation of facts to resolve the matter. Whoever has true oversight for the FCPS Board and administrators should likely be asking, maybe even long before now, some very specific, and likely uncomfortable, questions of the parties involved.

fattyhawk2013 said:

Everyone keeps talking the coaching lacks for Warwick. They 9-1 and almost beat Phoebus yesterday. The coaching had the players on the brink of an upset. I love my phantoms but don't slight coach Hairston and his staff. He built Warwick into a good program that can contend. Besides Maury..I believe they can beat anyone else. Noone could say that a few years ago. I love what they are doing over there and to be honest. Each yr they get closer and closer. So show respect bc coaching ain't easy, It takes alot of time away from ur family with little pay.

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Nice comment but 25 years and counting. 😃

SWDRules said:

Apparently you do because you wouldn't be trying to preach down to us. Shut up we don't care. By the way, you got banned for life today for your crap on swva sports. Hope he was worth it. We're done.

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I did? News to me. Not sure why I would. Once they made it to where you could read the threads without logging in there wasn’t a reason to log in.

I’m not preaching down to you. If you take it that way you must have something on your heart that you’re trying to hold back.

Anyways, I’m going to go eat my takeout and finish watching my dolphins. I’m glutton for punishment.

I’m through with this escalating conversation Mr. Rules.

7MileFord said:

I’m sure the ones who do have integrity understand my comment.

Again, I don’t care what they do. If Tony Palmer thinks the way he is leading young men is the right way then he has a right to take that team in that direction.

My point being is that with as much controversy has been surrounding him this year, personally and professionally, I would expect him to dot his i’s and cross his T’s a little more.

I’m not judging his intentions. Just judging the actions.

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Apparently you do because you wouldn't be trying to preach down to us. Shut up we don't care. By the way, you got banned for life today for your crap on swva sports. Hope he was worth it. We're done.

Virginia HS Football Fan said:

If everything holds, John Marshall will slide into the eighth spot since Amelia has waived the white flag on the season.

Or...as I am just seeing the comment above, will Region A go with a seven team bracket with the one seed getting a bye in the first round?

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Good question

Everyone keeps talking the coaching lacks for Warwick. They 9-1 and almost beat Phoebus yesterday. The coaching had the players on the brink of an upset. I love my phantoms but don't slight coach Hairston and his staff. He built Warwick into a good program that can contend. Besides Maury..I believe they can beat anyone else. Noone could say that a few years ago. I love what they are doing over there and to be honest. Each yr they get closer and closer. So show respect bc coaching ain't easy, It takes alot of time away from ur family with little pay.

VaTech98 said:

"Passing quarterback"????😂😂

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Pretty pathetic pulaki fans crying about a little ol 2A team with 4 backups trying to score at the end of the game. My how far that program has fallen lol.

SWDRules said:

Man.....I'm not sure we really care about if you think we don't have integrity. At all.

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I’m sure the ones who do have integrity understand my comment.

Again, I don’t care what they do. If Tony Palmer thinks the way he is leading young men is the right way then he has a right to take that team in that direction.

My point being is that with as much controversy has been surrounding him this year, personally and professionally, I would expect him to dot his i’s and cross his T’s a little more.

I’m not judging his intentions. Just judging the actions.

SWDRules said:

All the recievers were backups too. Passing quarterback was handing ball off. Try again hater.

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"Passing quarterback"????😂😂

SWDRules said:

All the recievers were backups too. Passing quarterback was handing ball off. Try again hater.

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Starting offensive line. Starting quarterback. Receivers split out wide on both sides didn’t even move. What are you trying to justify?

awjones1978 said:

Strength of schedule will separate them..Granby probably has the least PP based on their district competition. 2 and 3 will be on the same side bracket so KF/Warwick should be good game. My grandson just told me that Warwick will beat KF🤣🤣

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Warwick has the players to beat anyone in Division 5 not named Maury honestly. It’s the coaching that they lack