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4-D playoff match-ups now looking set...ish

The original post said GW, Salem, or JF would be a better game against Phoebus. I understood that as Phoebus is going to be in the Championship game vs someone from Region D that beat the 804 champ. So at that point, the field would be whoever Phoebus plays in the championship. 🤣
😂😂😂 I thought D played A in the semis. But nah Region A & B are on a collision course @ Liberty, barring some unforeseen circumstance. I can agree with your prior statement the winner of D and C will be beaten by 17+.
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@VolNation85 @Phoebus Fan @General172011 Phoebus only beat Salem by 7 in the ship and IMO Salem will fair a lot better than losing by 17 to Phoebus. I’m a GW supporter and would love to see them go all the way, but realistically Salem is the only team in 4D that would compete with Phoebus.
Sounds good. We will see when whoever makes that 4 hour trip to Darling. But focus on Ireland St is the Churchland/Warhill winner and getting healthy. Just know the training wheels are off Rik Banks.

Hayfield

As an outsider I will throw my two cents in. We as an American society tolerate breaking the law most of the time when the law is broken in small ways. If the speed limit is 65 and you are going 70 you are not going to get pulled over even though you are breaking the law. But if you go 90 you are getting pulled over. DO was going 90 in a 65 and got pulled over.
Doing 90 and head out the window bragging and gloating about it then played victim when they got caught
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4-D playoff match-ups now looking set...ish

Haha you said GW, Salem, or JF would be a better game against Phoebus. I understood that as Phoebus is going to be in the Championship game vs someone from Region D that beat the 804 champ. You said it, not me. :D
😂😂 It’s 100% going to be the 757 vs 804 in the ship! BOOK IT! Now whether it’s my Varina boys, Huguenot or them Country Boyz from the other side of Petersburg, it’s coming.

4-D playoff match-ups now looking set...ish

Yep. And Jefferson and James Wood might beat them too.
Kettle Run would smoke Glass and Amherst. Dinwiddie is considerably better than both Sherando and GW.
Glass beat Botty, Heritage, and PH Roanoke on top of the Seminole schedule they played. Y’all both sound crazy 😂 none of those teams in the Winchester area play anybody. A lot of Sherando’s relevance a few years back was playing Martinsburg and now they don’t even play anymore.
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Hayfield

Racism does not exist. The Civil Rights Era is over and done. Racism assumes something that is not true in modern Black communities. There is no unity in many Black families or community Claims of racism are made by the very people that do the most damage inside Black families and communities once those with the hammer of justice show up. It is so bad in the current iteration of the so-called Black community that if anyone actually says who caused the existing problems and who maintains them that person or people run the risk of losing careers and or income. Ignore claims of racism and anyone screaming it. Look behind them for the stolen bag of cash.
Terrible take

4-D playoff match-ups now looking set...ish

Direct W/L comparisons without many shared opponents is very dangerous. You need to start examining the records of the opponents as well as examining SOS to help build a better picture of the road each team walked.

For example, Dinwiddie's opponents were 61-39, Cal Preps gives Dinwiddie the #2 SOS in all of C4 out of 51 teams while Kettle Run's opponents were 45-55, Cal Preps gives Kettle Run the #34 SOS in all of C3 out of 55 teams.

Total W/L record per opponent and sorted by SOS (in their respective class) for GW:

C2 Martinsville 48-51, tied for #16 SOS out of 49 teams

C3 Staunton River 56-44, #11 SOS out of 55 teams
C3 Tunstall 52-47, #32 SOS out of 55 teams
C3 Bassett 46-54, #35 SOS out of 55 teams
C3 Magna Vista 43-57, #37 SOS out of 55 teams

C4 Dinwiddie 61-39, #2 SOS out of 51 teams
C4 EC Glass 63-36, #3 SOS out of 51 teams
C4 Amherst 55-44, #8 SOS out of 51 teams
C4 Halifax 56-44, #26 SOS out of 51 teams
C4 Mecklenburg 50-48, #44 SOS out of 51 teams

Total W/L: 530-464

Total W/L record per opponent and sorted by SOS (in their respective class) for Sherando:

C3 Warren 63-37, #20 SOS out of 55 teams
C3 Fauquier 53-47, #29 SOS out of 55 teams
C3 Brentsville 51-49, #30 SOS out of 55 teams
C3 Kettle Run 45-55, #34 SOS out of 55 teams

C4 Liberty 61-39, #27 out of 51 teams
C4 Millbrook 54-46, #41 SOS out of 51 teams
C4 James Wood 48-52, #43 SOS out of 51 teams
C4 Handley 38-62, #48 SOS out of 51 teams

C5 Lightridge 60-40, #12 SOS out of 48 teams

C4 (WV) Jefferson 52-48, #9 SOS out of 21 teams

Total W/L: 525-475

So on the surface even the opponent W/L is evenly matched but when you take a look at SOS it becomes pretty clear that GW's opponents by and large played more difficult, successful opponents.

Pick em Playoffs Week 1

C4

Churchland
King George
Huguenot
Woodgrove
GW Danville
Salem

C5

Indian River
Salem VB
Warwick
Nansemond River
Louisa Co
LC Bird
Stone Bridge
Massaponox

C3

New Kent
Hopewell
Skyline
Heritage Lyn
Turner Ashby
Alleghany
William Byrd
Magna Vista
Lord Botetourt

C6

Manchester
Gainesville
N Stafford
Stafford
Lake Braddock
South Co
Westfield
Langley

C2

Lunenburg Central
King William
Bruton
Central Woodstock
Strasburg
Riverheads
Appomattox Co
Virginia High
Union
Ridgeview

C1

Westmoreland
Northampton
Sussex Central
Buffalo Gap
Narrows
George Wythe W
Grayson Co
Grundy
Patrick Henry GS

Playoff Format 25-26

@VolNation85, I generally like your idea; however, if you are going to utilize this method the VHSL needs to balance out the regions. Why should any given region be given a competitive advantage by having fewer teams thus fewer playoff games.

Example:

Region A 9 teams 5 teams with records of 5-5 or better. If you take four the maximum number of games would be 13. Very little travel.

Region C 10 teams, 5 teams with 5-5 records or better. Same as above. Very little travel.

Region D 15 teams, 10 teams with 5-5 records or better. If you take 8 then the maximum number of games is fifteen. A whole lot of travel.

Region B 17 teams, 12 teams with 5-5 records or better. Same as above with moderate to high amounts of travel.

Even with the VHSL constantly reconfiguring regions why does Region C go untouched? If they gave them the Northwestern District teams back next cycle and put Louisa with the teams in their own district I would be totally fine with your plan.
This is a great point and I considered that too. The imbalance of regions is a major part of the problem as well. That would have to be addressed first.

4-D playoff match-ups now looking set...ish

In what realm do you have them beating Huguenot Varina or Dinwiddie by 17+ 😂😂😂😂😂. They know that game will be a war just like we know it. 17+ 🤣🤣🤣 yeah right
The original post said GW, Salem, or JF would be a better game against Phoebus. I understood that as Phoebus is going to be in the Championship game vs someone from Region D that beat the 804 champ. So at that point, the field would be whoever Phoebus plays in the championship. 🤣

Hayfield

Ah yes, the historically racist term “dirtbag”. Are you sure you’re not just hearing whatever YOU want to hear? Is there any negative adjective one could use to describe DO’s operation that you wouldn’t call “racist”? Please share.
Racism does not exist. The Civil Rights Era is over and done. Racism assumes something that is not true in modern Black communities. There is no unity in many Black families or community Claims of racism are made by the very people that do the most damage inside Black families and communities once those with the hammer of justice show up. It is so bad in the current iteration of the so-called Black community that if anyone actually says who caused the existing problems and who maintains them that person or people run the risk of losing careers and or income. Ignore claims of racism and anyone screaming it. Look behind them for the stolen bag of cash.

4-D playoff match-ups now looking set...ish

Not only a tougher schedule but GW is a better team overall. The Piedmont District waters that W/L stuff down. Sherando hasn’t played anyone as good as Dinwiddie, Glass and Amherst.

Kettle Run would smoke Glass and Amherst. Dinwiddie is considerably better than both Sherando and GW.
Yep. And Jefferson and James Wood might beat them too.
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