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Dept of Education

Nov 13, 2013
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Just curious, if Trump gets rid of the dept. of education like he promises to do, what happens to high school football? Who’s paying for the football equipment then? And will we join up with the private schools?
 
I very seldom criticize anyone on here, but I’m making an exception this time.

First, if anyone is so unknowledgeable that they think that the DOE buys football gear, how could you put even the tiniest validity in what they say?

Secondly, to think that Trump or anyone else can make the Federal Dept of Education just vanish is absurb. He may most certainly change their priorities, shift their administrative powers back to the individual states, and reduce their size substantially, but “poof”, make them disappear? You are so misguided.

And to think that all of a sudden the public schools would turn to the private school alliances and say, “save me, save me”, because the DOE won’t pay for our shoulder pads?

Sorry guys, this one pushed my button.
 
Yeah, Tofu for pregame meals. The poor JV will have to endure impossible chicken nuggets.

It amazes me that people on both sides of the voting aisle believe the people will stand idly by and accept either party becoming a dictatorship. Call me naive, but I still have faith that Americans are not full blown imbeciles.
 
I honestly wasn't trolling I promise. But yeah just take it down. I should have phrased it differently, theoretically would this have any negative impact on public HS sports? I'm not huge into politics but I did see a blurb about him saying that.
 
Yeah, Tofu for pregame meals. The poor JV will have to endure impossible chicken nuggets.

It amazes me that people on both sides of the voting aisle believe the people will stand idly by and accept either party becoming a dictatorship. Call me naive, but I still have faith that Americans are not full blown imbeciles.
Not the impossible nuggets 😂
 
I honestly wasn't trolling I promise. But yeah just take it down. I should have phrased it differently, theoretically would this have any negative impact on public HS sports? I'm not huge into politics but I did see a blurb about him saying that.
You started the thread - you can delete it if you want.
I actually enjoy posts like this.
 
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While I agree with getting rid of the Dept of Education, since it's the state's responsibility to educate the citizens, Reagan wasn't able to do it when it was fairly new, so I doubt Trump will be able to either. It will get twisted into an anti-education effort and Congress won't have the spine to do it.
 
It’s all a chance to return education from a federal property to a more state based property. Allow states and local districts o take charge again, without governmental red tape. I think it’ll be a plus. My hope is that education could return to more of a holistic approach where we care about the total student not just if they can pass a standardized test. There are bigger issues in doing this though, as you will have to ultimately, get more people signing up to work in education. This includes teachers and coaches.
 
Okay so according to Google:

  • Funding:
    The DOE often provides funding for school districts, which in turn helps support sports programs with equipment, facilities, and staff salaries. Without this funding, schools might have to drastically cut back on sports teams or eliminate them entirely.
Just because the Department of Education would disappear (unlikely) doesn't mean the federal funding would end. It just means money would go directly to each state for each state to decide how it would be spent.
 
He also said he wants school choice and that a student can choose where they want to go and that the state and federal money tied to that student will follow them.
 
what a short memory you folk have
work interferes with his tee time.
 
Guys just the delete the thread. I do think it's an interesting topic because school funding definitely will effect sports but we know this conversation will not stay on that.
 
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Okay so according to Google:

  • Funding:
    The DOE often provides funding for school districts, which in turn helps support sports programs with equipment, facilities, and staff salaries. Without this funding, schools might have to drastically cut back on sports teams or eliminate them entirely.
If you believe what you read, truly believe it, then I feel really bad for you. Because 99% of everything that pops up when you do a search has an answer that supports the authors agenda. Sometimes that’s ok. Sometimes you need to understand why someone supports or promotes an idea. The problem is, the level of verifiable truth that is used to explain a topic runs from absurd, preposterous lies to well crafted, highly manipulated, convincingly true statements.

So please go research your topic a lot more and come back and tell us what you found and why you believe it.
We sailed in your shit when you asked your questions, so we owe you a fair and open discussion on the topic. That would only be fair.
 
It’s all a chance to return education from a federal property to a more state based property. Allow states and local districts o take charge again, without governmental red tape. I think it’ll be a plus. My hope is that education could return to more of a holistic approach where we care about the total student not just if they can pass a standardized test. There are bigger issues in doing this though, as you will have to ultimately, get more people signing up to work in education. This includes teachers and coaches.

You will never get more people into education until you start making the job attractive again with commiserate pay. People have their crotch goblins then pawn them off onto other people for most of the day and expect top-notch work at near-bottom pay levels. What teachers are paid throughout this country is a joke and the crumbling infrastructure of American education is a direct reflection of the average jerkoff's bemoaning of having to pay a dime towards anything that doesn't directly and tangibly benefit them.

People just run their mouths and when it comes time to foot the bill all that yapping gets real quiet, real quick.
 
You will never get more people into education until you start making the job attractive again with commiserate pay. People have their crotch goblins then pawn them off onto other people for most of the day and expect top-notch work at near-bottom pay levels. What teachers are paid throughout this country is a joke and the crumbling infrastructure of American education is a direct reflection of the average jerkoff's bemoaning of having to pay a dime towards anything that doesn't directly and tangibly benefit them.

People just run their mouths and when it comes time to foot the bill all that yapping gets real quiet, real quick.
This is my argument too! Gotta incentive people to go into education someway, somehow. Why take on debt by going to school and getting a bachelors and even a masters for a job whose pay doesn’t equate to the time and effort? Instead a lot of the country right now is stuck being unable to attract new and better candidates, especially post Covid. It’s a great teacher shortage with many younger candidates either not going into it or getting out quickly. On top of that add in retirees and the position is getting squeezed. With the example of sports, I always ask to count your “walk on” coaches. Coaches who do not have a job inside the school system. This is not to say that walk on coaches cannot be very valuable or even great coaches in their own right, but it just shows sort of the death of people wanting to be teacher/coaches in the country. I have a buddy who works down in southside VA, where he says one school district has 2/4 head football coaches being walk ons, not to mention many assistants. And that’s just one little county as example. Again, not critiquing the walk on coach but I think it’s indicative of a larger issue of a lack of people coming into the profession who want to teach and coach. Raise pay, take away college debt (oooooh I know scary topic), do something to get some of your upper level graduates to want to go and shape the next generation
 
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But here is something that is more real than that bald spot you try to cover up. There are numerous high ranking former & current presidential appointees, military and civilian leaders plus individuals that come from the proven: Military Industrial Complex meeting in Washington, DC to discuss the intentions, origin (human, extraterrestrial or alien) and whereabouts of UFOs or nonhuman intelligences now referred to as UAP. Personally, I believe that any acknowledgement by the Americans that we are actually a multi-species intergalactic race with extreme capabilities could lead to _________, I don't think any progress will be made. Multiple government, political, academic and military foreign leaders have said that our government has made contact and negotiations with other species.

To those of you that remember my PhantomFan identity and my post from September 8, 2001 when I predicted that Phoebus would takeover D5 and win the 2001 and 2002 champions and follow up by winning 60% of the coming championships with future teams being directly affected by that original team, well, you never asked me how I knew. Some only admonished me for writing the post and even after the 2001 championship was won acted as if the prediction was not sitting there for all to read.
 
That’s my main point in general. Respect should be mutual whether it’s religion or politics. What you believe in has nothing to do with me and vice versa. Nothing he said was disrespectful so he shouldn’t be name called or characterized in any way.
I agree 100 percent that respect should be given and people should be able to agree to disagree. However, I respectfully wholeheartedly disagree with the premise that what someone believes in or their political views isn't who they are. It's literally, one-thousand percent who they are. We support what we believe in, true men of character don't make justifications or compromise their integrity or character for anyone or anything, period. We will justify some decisions made under the false flag of financial prosperity, religious views, or whatever some tell themselves to make them sleep better at night. But, I say own it, you are what you believe.
 
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That’s my main point in general. Respect should be mutual whether it’s religion or politics. What you believe in has nothing to do with me and vice versa. Nothing he said was disrespectful so he shouldn’t be name called or characterized in any way.
We certainly agree....however, in the past, that hasn't always been the case here on VP...differing opinions have virtually always been met with calls to judgement and assumptions about ones character. I can understand why he asked the question. The answer is a bit more deeper than a simple one line answer. It's a complex and very convoluted situation. In typical fashion, some parties on the National front have elected to simplify it through fear and misinformation for posturing and gains. I think we all shouldn't be surprised by that...it's the normal behavior by both parties. WE should be demanding that those clowns meet in the middle for the common good of us all....
 
I agree 100 percent that respect should be given and people should be able to agree to disagree. However, I respectfully wholeheartedly disagree with the premise that what someone believes in or their political views isn't who they are. It's literally, one-thousand percent who they are. We support what we believe in, true men of character don't make justifications or compromise their integrity or character for anyone or anything, period. We will justify some decisions made under the false flag of financial prosperity, religious views, or whatever some tell themselves to make them sleep better at night. But, I say own it, you are what you believe.
I agree 100%. If you're a MAGA cultist, you are incapable of critical thinking, and will blindly follow whatever implicit biases you acquired during childhood. See Nazi Germany for reference. But for the rest of us Republicans, Moderates, Democrats, etc. we will at least question something before endorsing it. Hence the reason for creating this post. Maybe the end of title 1 funding will have zero influence on public school funding for sports. But it's obvious some people on this board aren't even open for questioning of their Trump Daddy King. LOL. I guarantee you no one on here would call me a snowflake to my face, so I'm cool with it BOKnowsSports. :)
 
Again, potentially great topic but delete and save it for if funding actually gets effected in the upcoming years. Let's talk about it later.
 
We certainly agree....however, in the past, that hasn't always been the case here on VP...differing opinions have virtually always been met with calls to judgement and assumptions about ones character. I can understand why he asked the question. The answer is a bit more deeper than a simple one line answer. It's a complex and very convoluted situation. In typical fashion, some parties on the National front have elected to simplify it through fear and misinformation for posturing and gains. I think we all shouldn't be surprised by that...it's the normal behavior by both parties. WE should be demanding that those clowns meet in the middle for the common good of us all....
But Congress is meeting. All the presidents men and women are meeting. All of them. And the topic ain't the common good. The topic is literally ALIENS AND UFOS.
 
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