...and having a 40” vertical or a smooth jumper don’t hurt...Just kidding...You have to apply for open enrollment and be accepted via a lottery
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...and having a 40” vertical or a smooth jumper don’t hurt...Just kidding...You have to apply for open enrollment and be accepted via a lottery
Yeah I never heard of a lottery before....and having a 40” vertical or a smooth jumper don’t hurt...Just kidding...
I buy a couple tickets at Kite's store on friday evenings.Yeah I never heard of a lottery before.
You should sign his petition, write a letter to VHSL and your local congressman. Again, throwing out legalities and technicalities about a kids birth certificate and census status after a game is/was bush league. You keep saying its about VHSL, so Scotty V should take it up with them. 2 pages of anonymous posts from Monday morning QB's ain't going to move the meter Jack!I will write this again. The issue is.....JMs head coach is also the Head Coach of a prominent AAU team in Richmond that is known throughout the SouthEast.
What part of the above is confusing? What part of the above is not COMMON SENSE in knowing that an open enrollment City or metro of near 300 thousand is going to create an advantage for that school? The city with around one quarter of a million has a solid AAU team and that same city has that AAU teams coach at JM High.
And some of you sheep are telling me it doesn't create an advantage? Again, NO PERSON in America is arguing that it's illegal. It's very legal and I credit JM. What I'm saying is this....
It's and unfair advantage and a moral wrong. For you sheeple who are reacting to the word "moral" like it's throwing water on and electrical circuit, then shut up and go to a Bernie rally. You are useless. I'm saying that it should be made illegal by VHSL standards and I'm telling you it will be in the next 2-3 years. The Gate City coach was spot on. His comments were made to draw attention to the situation and now, we are on page 2 of this topic. His comments worked and they were right.
You were talking about morals. I don't moral to keep stars on the court in the 4th when you are up by 40. Read my original comment.How? The issue would be Mac playing for Team Loaded and deciding to go to JM and play with the director to finish his high school career. What would have been the reason to go play at JM other then the AAU ties? That’s the issue. So what do you mean by the pot calling the kettle black?
I don’t believe I was talking about morals. My opinion is that the AAU ties as well as JM being able to pull kids from other schools to play sports and it not count towards their enrollment puts them at an advantage over most other schools. JM isn’t doing anything wrong or illegal. The fact that there isn’t a rule to say you can’t do that is the issue to me. Nothing moral about it.You were talking about morals. I don't moral to keep stars on the court in the 4th when you are up by 40. Read my original comment.
You win... leave it alone now lolWhat if the owner of the RICHMOND Braves National travel baseball team also coached at say, LCBird High School (he doesn’t by the way).
And then his travel team players all ended up at LCB. They would win the baseball state on par with how JM won basketball. They play much tougher competition throughout the summer than they would face in the VHSL.
What if the George Mason soccer coach created a summer travel soccer program? I expect the best NOVA has to offer in soccer would soon be attending GM.
Would the uproar be the same? I know these are hypothetical but there is potential for summer coaches to build super teams in about every sport.
If the VHSL doesn’t address it, this scenario may come to pass in most sports.
And I totally get that a team who faces JM having a problem with it but recruiting to me is a kid traveling from Northern Va to play for JM. What if the rule changes and Coach White steps aside and the assistant steps in and they still get the talent coming in?!I don’t believe I was talking about morals. My opinion is that the AAU ties as well as JM being able to pull kids from other schools to play sports and it not count towards their enrollment puts them at an advantage over most other schools. JM isn’t doing anything wrong or illegal. The fact that there isn’t a rule to say you can’t do that is the issue to me. Nothing moral about it.
Seriously, I don’t care either way. I was just pointing out what COULD happen. But even if it does happen, so what?You win... leave it alone now lol
We already know the biggest crooks are the shoe ppl lolInteresting the way all of this stuff works. If you look at the big man's college offers, the 4 biggest names that have offered are all Adidas schools.
This is what has happened to the Little League program all over the state,the good athletes play AAU and the not so good or the not so rich play in the Little League program.It will not be terribly long before HS basketball ceases to exist in its present form.
Many players will just play for their travel teams. The only players playing for their HS will be those not talented enough (or wealthy enough) to make the travel circuit.
Most college recruiters go to AAU events instead of HS games anyway.
I’ve been told several times that the only reason this has not happened on a huge scale yet is gym space.
But once schools realize how much they could make from hosting or renting gym space for these events/practices, look out Jack!
You know what? To the VHSL... just want you guys to know that since what JM is doing is legal and by the books I am going to start my own AAU team and we are going to go play a LOT of basketball together once this virus passes. I think I will go get all the great young talent around here in Southwest Virginia. I have a lot of connections so I’m sure I can get a job at a certain high school around here. People are going to cry and whine but hey it is going to be legal. Once all the parents move in the district we are going to have all kinds of success and due to the VHSL and their immaculate rulings that JM uses no one can say a word.
If anyone fusses I will just point to JM and all they have done legally. I also challenge all you other high schools in Class 2. If you can go get all the talent you want and move them into your high school area.
The VHSL as you can see has already shown that it’s ok to do so. Doesn’t matter if a PG named Jason Nelson came from Life Christian in the VSCC league or a 6’6 freshman named Dennis Parker transferred in to John Marshall from Manchester. (Not in Richmond limits) and played for Boo Williams before going to Team Loaded and then John Marshall.
Just saying..... this is all legal and good. If it is, I challenge the rest of Virginia to get your super team while you can. White is right. All those players are from Richmond limits...... now. They weren’t before. The two players above are from 30 to 35 minutes away.... and Manchester isn’t a feeder school for JM. If you want to know.
You are correct. JM has a great program. It’s legal and they are great at what they do. Very very very good.
So if it’s good for the golden goose it should be good for the gander. Until the VHSL outlaws it, go get your super teams everyone. Go get em!
I don’t think he is really saying the problem is because JM is 2A. I read it as him having issue with the way the VHSL has basically given them “free roam” to direct talent to one locale.Correction. Ty White is not an AAU coach. He does not coach any team for Team Loaded anymore. He is the Program Director. Jason Nelson transferred from Varina and not LCA. Dennis Parker is the outlier as he went to middle school in Chesterfield County at Manchester. That one does seem funny on the surface but plenty of parents find ways to get their kid to a more favorable high school. The biggest problem with this argument is that you are stating they should not be 2A because of one sport. So they need to play up in boy's basketball but stay 2A in everything else because they aren't winning. Since the reclassification, many Richmond city schools have been more competitive in many sports. The fact that JM can compete with larger schools in boy's basketball does not mean that they need to move up to accommodate the rest of 2A. You can't fault the one outlier. Unless you want to do it for every level.
That’s all that I can read that the GC coach was saying. Yes they were good. No problem with that. All the GC coach was saying is that if all those kids for JM came from the JM area and weren’t drawn there, then hey it’s all good.
Nelson may have come to Varina. He was at Life Christian before Varina. Don’t believe it? Look on MaxPreps for Life Christian during that time. He played there as an 8th grader. He then goes to Varina and then winds up at JM all of a sudden? If you want me to research the other players trust me I can get it done. Roosevelt Wheeler came to Richmond from Georgia through the channels. Kind of weird they go to Georgia to play in a tournament type game against McEachern. Wonder if he had any family in the stands? Would he have played at McEachern had he stayed in Georgia? Just asking valid questions. No sour grapes here.
And White isn’t a coach..... he is the director. I mean dude.... isn’t that worse? He is the director all right. He is directing all the talent inside the Richmond city limits. All I know is that he must tell all those guys that Thomas Jefferson sucks because it’s weird how one school could be so talented and another Richmond “area school” could not even compare and they are 2A as well.
All I’m saying is that if some other 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A or 6A decides to “direct” talent to their school the VHSL better not say Boo to them at all.
If they are going to allow JM to direct talent to their school (and that’s just two examples I listed) then nothing better be said to any other school either.
This happens in all sports. Even in Girls Tennis. Tennis parents just own properties in 2 different school zones and switch which property is their "residence" based on coaching hires and quality of team.So really your problem isn't with JM or the VHSL or Team Loaded. From what I gather it is the fact that kids within the Richmond city limits can go to JM because of open enrollment. If not for open enrollment, all that talent would have to be within the JM limits. It has been that way for awhile in the city. All football players use to go to Huguenot and basketball players to George Wythe. After some coaching changes, players gravitated to different places. JM became the basketball spot after they hired Coach White. Other places in VA that have open enrollment probably see the same issue but they are usually not playing in the lower enrollment divisions. An example in NC is they have a huge issue with Charter schools. As a charter in a high population area can gain access to many, many more players than a low population county and they have dominated state championships in 1A basketball especially.
I think there is much more important things at this time to be concerned with.This happens in all sports. Even in Girls Tennis. Tennis parents just own properties in 2 different school zones and switch which property is their "residence" based on coaching hires and quality of team.
I was just pointing out this happens all over, for years. In lots of sports. Don't know why my post was the first out of 68 posts to bother you so.I think there is much more important things at this time to be concerned with.
I was just pointing out this happens all over, for years. In lots of sports. Don't know why my post was the first out of 68 posts to bother you so.[/QUO
I'll say it again there are more pressing things to care about.I was just pointing out this happens all over, for years. In lots of sports. Don't know why my post was the first out of 68 posts to bother you so.
John Marshall enrollment numbers are really down and will only decrease, they have a large neighborhood where many of the kids attend private school, a neighborhood that has been rezoned to TJ next year and lose many students to henrico county due to Henrico High School being less then a mile away. Get used to them staying at 2A their numbers won’t increase again unless their elementary population chooses to stay in the city.
Only problem I see is that the rest of the state doesn't get to pick where they want to go to school. Not knocking Richmond for doing that. Just wish the rest of the state did the same.JM has roughly 500 or so students, they're categorized as 2A by VHSL not there own choosing. If each kid lives in the city of Richmond and want to play for a team that promotes exposure to college basketball, why not?. I guess we should be mad at a parent who puts there child in private school instead of staying with the kids they "grew up" with...