I don’t know him at all, and I understand that you do. But I would describe what he has allowed/condoned at Hayfield to be beyond “pro-athletics”.
Hayfield back in the playoffs...maybe not
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Given the publicity this situation has generated it could likely be more difficult than you imagine, particularly in areas of reasonable proximity. When playoff schedules and eligibility are getting adjusted and courts/lawyers are involved this has become much more than a minor dustup and could follow those involved for at least some period of time. This likely follows the old adage that it is the cover up more often than the crime that creates the problem.
Some school officials make more than the President and cabinet secretaries....pretty sure the President and say, the Secretary of Defense, should be making more than the Superintendent of Fairfax County schools...just saying
This whole investigation of going to open a larger investigation into all the transfer players in the county/state. Hayfield has grossly abused the system from the articles and evidence presented, but I’m not naive to think they’re the only school who’s benefitted from a “you should play for us” and let’s make it happen motto. If they do begin digging there’d be a lot of vacated titles but that’s a what if and potential real possibility. Most families don’t move the just use an address and get mail there …
The old Babe Ruth line when he was questioned about making more than the President comes to mind. He replied, "I had a better year than he did." In this situation the FCPS superintendent and the current sitting President would appear to have their own individual challenges. ;-)
i wonder why these teams didn’t get together and boycott during the season…why wait to threaten to do it now
Not really. Much worse happens with SOLs, negligence, accreditation, etc and principals re-land relatively easy. FCPS has backed Hayfield through all of this and if they do end up back peddling, it’ll be minimal. If FCPS hasn’t “found” anything, unless Hayfield is stupid, the worse I see happening is forfeiting games. The only reason it’s gone this far is you have a bunch people with resources going after the state’s largest school division. Money and conflict of interest within litigation will save Hayfield and that school division.
This thread and the Hayfield talk is tiring as hell. Too many good games going on to be caught up in this drama. If LCA is allowed to play public school ball, John Marshall is allowed to play C2 ball, and states actually acknowledging the “high school portal”, you think think this is going to be any different. Coaches have done what these guys have done for years, these cats were just arrogant and loud.
Go read the Riverheads/Stuarts Draft thread in C2 boards, that one's a doozy.
There are a variety of reasons why Hayfield has been targeted in this instance and I guess you could say being used to make an example out of. I don't believe it is the money portion although I might be naïve to that aspect. I think the two things drawing the ire is:
1) The number of recruits. We all knows kids are transferring, schools/coaches are recruiting but to the magnitude of which it happened was so blatant that of course it caught everyone's attention. Had it been 3-5 I dont think we get this far.
2) While at Freedom, Overton and those associated with Freedom liked to say something to the effect of "Freedom by 50" and they routinely crushed, embarrassed teams. Yes, they have the talent to do it but I think of coaches in the Richmond area, there is comraderies, there is friendship, there is respect. I cannot imagine Overton had good relationships or respect from other area coaches so naturally it made him public enemy #1 in those ranks.
Just my opinion FWIW
We will have to agree to disagree. I doubt any of the things you characterize as much worse has generated the notoriety surrounding the Hayfield/FCPS situation and the situation has elements(negligence, fraud, etc.) found in the things you describe as "much worse." What else is FCPS going to do other than back Hayfield? They are in this thing up to their eyeballs after their "investigation" if not before. I think you misread the situation, particularly the part about a bunch of people with resources going after the state's largest school division. Who do you believe those people with resources might be? All I see are schools and neighboring school divisions impacted by the FCPS failures challenging them. I think your last line about money and conflict of interest is a stretch but, without further explanation of what you really mean and are trying to say I cannot challenge or determine whether I have misinterpreted what you mean.
My God man… Got a headache out the azz from the first 3 posts 😂 I need somebody to smack me if I ever rant and ramble like that.
It's really not that hard to do the right thing. Why do all of these schools/organizations find it so difficult?
As of the time of this post they are scheduled to play but Edison is one of the schools that is threatening to boycott.
One thing I find interesting about the potential boycott is that it is public knowledge that at least 3 of the coaches named in the boycotting letter have benefited from athletes transferring and playing for teams they have coached in the past in Fairfax County. Not saying it's right or wrong but I do find it interesting that those same coaches would now complain abut Hayfield benefiting from transfer athletes.
I don't believe the complaints are about transfers. Transfers happen all the time. The questions are three fold, were rules followed, were there actual violations overlooked or tried to be swept under the rug and did FCPS do anything of substance to oversee the process and actually address complaints and questions raised?
This will likely be a Netflix special or ESPN 30 for 30 soon. Stay tuned, it has become bigger than just a football schedule.
I guess Hayfield and Edison are still playing. It’d kinda be funny if Edison upset them. Of course it’s a long shot but I’m just saying
If they can turn the tables from a 70-6 drubbing about a month ago, that would be the biggest upset ever.
I’m expecting 80+ to 0. Won’t be surprised if they go over 100.
That score would surely draw some additional negative attention. I don't think the coaches will make that mistake.
DO"s fan club on Facebook are leaving comments telling him to "keep them starters in all postseason and makethem pay", run it up and leave no doubt" "Hayfield by 100" among other messages. Of course DO likes the comments. Smh.
Two thoughts come to mind. What goes around comes around and some days you're the windshield and some days you're the bug.
I don't agree. They are very capable of doing that since they and their team feel "persecuted". They even have shirts that say "Hayfield against the world" or something similar.
Now DO just put on his personal Facebook page that he's been promoted to Director of Student Activities... You can't make this crap up...
Edison player caught a pass and got tackled on Hayfield’s sideline then just tossed the ball at DO…refs better get this game under control asap
Hayfield goes up 34-0 still in 1st
Same Edison player just got a personal foul personal penalty for throwing a punch..
Hayfield goes up 34-0 still in 1st
Same Edison player just got a personal foul personal penalty for throwing a punch..
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Lame opposing coaches will condone this behavior since they can’t compete. Hayfield needs to beat these teams 100+ to nothing IMO.
Facts. If I'm DO. Make sure to tell them kids be smart because folks already looking for their down fall don't give them anymore reason.
Hayfield 48-0 7 mins to go in 2nd quarter
Leaving at halftime the temp drop is insane. Glad i got to check them out while I’m in NOVA.
Leaving at halftime the temp drop is insane. Glad i got to check them out while I’m in NOVA.
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I think the only way we can prevent something this blatant from happening in the future is to put some kind of cap on the number of transfers a school can accept over a certain period of time.
Over the years we've had situations where a player from a neighboring school district had a lot of friends on G.W. and wanted to play with them. And it has worked out the other way too, where some city athletes had lots of good friends at Dan River, Tunstall, etc. We should be able to make reasonable accommodations like that.
But importing two dozen players changes the calculus. I am old school. You win or lose with YOUR kids...the ones who go to YOUR school...who live in YOUR neighborhood.
If you want to assemble an all-star team and play on ESPN, fine. Just don't do it while you are a VHSL member.
Over the years we've had situations where a player from a neighboring school district had a lot of friends on G.W. and wanted to play with them. And it has worked out the other way too, where some city athletes had lots of good friends at Dan River, Tunstall, etc. We should be able to make reasonable accommodations like that.
But importing two dozen players changes the calculus. I am old school. You win or lose with YOUR kids...the ones who go to YOUR school...who live in YOUR neighborhood.
If you want to assemble an all-star team and play on ESPN, fine. Just don't do it while you are a VHSL member.
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