I’ve grown so disgusted with the whole sordid affair that I’m struggling to maintain sympathy for even the innocent kids now. I hope every one of the lowlifes that perpetrated this rot in hell.
Hayfield back in the playoffs...maybe not
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Hayfield pushed out a good coach that was making them competitive and doing it the right way. The Administration at the school needs the hammer to drop on them!
Hopefully everybody kept receipts as there is a lot of explaining to do starting with the FCPS Superintendent. It would be interesting to see that explaining done under oath in front of a judge.
The AD resigned already. I would be shocked if the principal remains after this year.
Wow. Did all this adjusting of playoffs for nothing. Now a team gets to advance to region finals without having to play the 2 games this week. Getting a second round bye and not having to play Hayfield has to be a relief.
Terrible situation that could have been avoided right up to the point the judge delivered the injunction had FCPS administrators and leadership done the right thing. Now they are all in CYA and finger pointing mode. They were lying right up until the point those lies became obvious and no longer able to be covered. The old adage, when you find yourself in a hole quit digging, would seem to apply and hopefully FCPS will now do what they should have done last summer.
This has been a fascinating study into the pratfalls of the "win at all costs" attitude so many have.
I am a VERY competitive person. Always have been. But I insist on FAIR competition.
The grownups who orchestrated this knew damned well what they were doing, and they did it anyway.
There is no way I would feel pride if GWHS recruited two dozen ringers from around the state, dressed them up in a G.W. uniform, and laid 60-point drubbings on teams who were playing by the rules.
A whole lot of people need to be chagrined and punished for this.
I am a VERY competitive person. Always have been. But I insist on FAIR competition.
The grownups who orchestrated this knew damned well what they were doing, and they did it anyway.
There is no way I would feel pride if GWHS recruited two dozen ringers from around the state, dressed them up in a G.W. uniform, and laid 60-point drubbings on teams who were playing by the rules.
A whole lot of people need to be chagrined and punished for this.
This story has more layers than the biggest onion you've ever seen. I tried to tell some of y'all the entire story wasn't being told. The dots just weren't being connected.
Now that the text messages have come to light...the ONLY option in my eyes...dismissal. Super, Principal, AD took a leave...he's gone - gone, DO and his staff.
Here's my favorite part of the "release"....Principal states that they're going to investigate the entire school district and all sports. Sounds like a threat..."we're coming to find you because you outed us".....you created this mess and now you want to start slinging mud. Resign, you and your AD are 100% complicit. VHSL going forward...NO SCHOOL should be responsible for self policing or reporting. THIS FALLS SQUARELY on the VHSL's hands off policy. It gives member schools the opportunity to pull off things like this. It's like me leaving a bag of dog treats in the kitchen floor, telling my Shepherd not to eat them and then leaving the house all day...you can bet your @$$ that bag is going to be empty when I get home.
Thank goodness we still have a tremendous number of coaches, AD's and Principals that maintain the integrity and honesty to teach, run and set the positive example.
I'm a little disappointed by some people that still believe this was "OK"........I have really harsh words for that thought process, that can't be shared here...so I'll just say...drop the entitled attitude and remember, we all have the same choice when that alarm clock goes off in the morning, we can choose to do the right thing, or we can choose to be a problem in society. And no one is to blame for THAT other than the person in the mirror. That's a character FLAW, from within....period.
Now that the text messages have come to light...the ONLY option in my eyes...dismissal. Super, Principal, AD took a leave...he's gone - gone, DO and his staff.
Here's my favorite part of the "release"....Principal states that they're going to investigate the entire school district and all sports. Sounds like a threat..."we're coming to find you because you outed us".....you created this mess and now you want to start slinging mud. Resign, you and your AD are 100% complicit. VHSL going forward...NO SCHOOL should be responsible for self policing or reporting. THIS FALLS SQUARELY on the VHSL's hands off policy. It gives member schools the opportunity to pull off things like this. It's like me leaving a bag of dog treats in the kitchen floor, telling my Shepherd not to eat them and then leaving the house all day...you can bet your @$$ that bag is going to be empty when I get home.
Thank goodness we still have a tremendous number of coaches, AD's and Principals that maintain the integrity and honesty to teach, run and set the positive example.
I'm a little disappointed by some people that still believe this was "OK"........I have really harsh words for that thought process, that can't be shared here...so I'll just say...drop the entitled attitude and remember, we all have the same choice when that alarm clock goes off in the morning, we can choose to do the right thing, or we can choose to be a problem in society. And no one is to blame for THAT other than the person in the mirror. That's a character FLAW, from within....period.
To the people asking why teams didnt boycott or speak up in the beginning of the season, some teams did, and a parent of one of the former players at Hayfield who was on the team prior to the start of the season got the ball rolling in the 1st place. When Overton brought some of his kids in he tried the Deion Sanders approach and told some kids who were already at Hayfield to find somewhere else to play because he was bringing in his kids. The mom and the son had text messages where she said they bullied her son and thought is was messed up to push a kid out who lived there for other kids who didnt. They tried sweeping it under the rug but it eventually became this
He wouldve constantly poached all the kids from Prince William County, Stafford, and Fredericksburg, peopled complained about it in the area but never took action. He brought it to Fairfax County and those people werent having it. At some point when would he actually just coach the kids available and not plucking all the top talent within a 30 40 mile radius and claim dominance? The thing is within Freedom area in Woodbridge he knew he couldnt sustain that same talent in that area.
Yurp....nobody seems to remember that part...some people want to blame her....call her "Karen"...this ISN'T Colorado...or Jackson St....it's FRIGGIN HIGH SCHOOL.
DO might very well be one hell of a coach...prove it to us coach....BUILD A TEAM WITH THE KIDS WALKING THE HALLWAYS IN THE SCHOOL THAT YOU ACCEPTED THE JOB IN....can he? Who knows...he hasn't done it yet.
Will those kids who transferred in to play football even make it through the first semester? Transfer out immediately I would think. Well said by the principle but way to little way to late. To say you didn’t realize the earth wasn’t flat at this point is pretty embarrassing.
Oh.......Mr. Principal...I don't believe ANYTHING that he claims at this point. They all had an opportunity early on and they all chose to cover turds with more turds...ANYTHING they get from this point forward is deserved.
"Principal states that they're going to investigate the entire school district and all sports.".....he shouldn't be doing anything except packing up his desk. The super needs to can his butt yesterday 'cause it's either 1 of 2 things: He either new about it all and did nothing, or he's an absentee landlord. Either way....he gotta go.
I really don't feel bad for the Hayfield players at all (except for the ones that got booted out at the start of the year). The reason is because they more than likely all have parents who are just as complicit as the admin. They knew what they were doing was wrong and I refuse to believe that the players didn't know it was wrong. You're old enough to play big-time ball, you're old enough to know right from wrong. You wanna do it this way, go to a private school. There are many ways to get around affording it if you're good enough to play at those schools.
100%...and the Super is COMPLICIT in all of this, there are signs that point to this everywhere. This is turning into a horror movie. They're covering turds with turds. I have always said...when you find yourself in a hole - QUIT DIGGING!
I don't know all the details and how far up the chain it goes. Fairfax is huge with tons of schools. If I'm a citizen there, not sure I want my super getting in the weeds with football stuff like this in general. To me the bulk should go on the AD/Principle/Coach.
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