Hayfield

[General172011]

28 of the eligible 50 players returning for Freedom Woodbridge are no longer with the program lmao sheesh. Overton said he taking everything and everyone he can with him 😂😂. Nah in all seriousness tho he knows he was wrong for that. A recruiting just to win championships instead of building and watching your coaching flourish in front of your eyes is a disservice to you as a coach. Building, teaching, and watching a player grow from point A to point B makes the grind so special! Yeah a lot of teams have recruited it’s been going on for years but no team has ever gotten a mass exodus like Hayfield got from Freedom. Normally a few guys here and there. I remember not so long ago transferring rarely even happened. Kids use to have pride and stay at their schools that’s when everyone was good. You didn’t see many lopsided scores and every game meant something smh now a days one bad season and kids want to move to the closest winner in the area and that said winner will be willing to bend the rules in some cases if that player is good enough. I miss the old days 😔

 

[Kenneth Harris]

I don't have clue about what you talking about man. You all over the place. And as great as Phoebus is, you definitely want to keep your mouth shut when it comes to speaking on issues like this. Everybody know the 757 get it popping.

Rule yourself. I don't care about what you know, don't know, understand or don't understand. Mind your own freaking business in that case. Do not type orders to me bro. There are too many bastards with positions of trust in the entire Virginia school system that could not be trusted with an empty cookie jar. I paid for my free speech rights with a lifetime of service both volunteer and without choice. BTW, We had Chesters in the Hampton City School System in the 70s and 80s. People like you, who are quick to defend and try to backdown anyone speaking on it are the familiars that allow rancid behavior.

 

[Bucktown434]

Rule yourself. I don't care about what you know, don't know, understand or don't understand. Mind your own freaking business in that case. Do not type orders to me bro. There are too many bastards with positions of trust in the entire Virginia school system that could not be trusted with an empty cookie jar. I paid for my free speech rights with a lifetime of service both volunteer and without choice. BTW, We had Chesters in the Hampton City School System in the 70s and 80s. People like you, who are quick to defend and try to backdown anyone speaking on it are the familiars that allow rancid behavior.

Who you talking too!! I will type whatever I feel like because I'm willing to bet my life you never played a sport a day in your life. Where is your credentials?? Talking people like me. Once again another paraphrase or catchphrase with racial undertones. Expose yourself, because we can take this offline internet man lol. I'm not go do all this back and forth on internet. Like I said. Phoebus is one program that don't need spotlight when it comes to recruiting or transfer topics of attention. If you love your Alma Mater, I suggest you 🤫, before them "people" come down there to Darlington my boy lol.

 

[WP02alum]

There you go again with internet tough talk and name calling. It's absolutely unnecessary. And I'm willing to be my life you wouldn't stand on it in person, so you write crazy things like this on a blog anonymously.

Provide that name so we can find out sir!

 

[WP02alum]

I do love that every person this guy internet beefs with MUST be racist. You can tell it’s just some guy hella mad about Hayfield getting caught and punished.

Pretty sure he’s specifically called out multiple black folk as racists now. It would be more entertaining if it wasn’t so sad and predictable.

“I’m not going back and forth on the internet with y’all” says the dude who is actively doing just that. Then talks big about “say it to my face” while hiding behind a username. You can’t make this stuff up!

 

[Bucktown434]

I do love that every person this guy internet beefs with MUST be racist. You can tell it’s just some guy hella mad about Hayfield getting caught and punished.

Pretty sure he’s specifically called out multiple black folk as racists now. It would be more entertaining if it wasn’t so sad and predictable.

“I’m not going back and forth on the internet with y’all” says the dude who is actively doing just that. Then talks big about “say it to my face” while hiding behind a username. You can’t make this stuff up!

You go first. I'll wait. I'm dead azz serious. I'm not hella mad. I've provided context and reasoning by my original premise the entire time, but it's folk like you that seems to have what we call selective hearing. You hear wtf you want to hear, because you to busy being argumentative and chatty patty like a bitter scorn woman, instead having a open dialogue like a rational human being or a man with some testicle fortitude. I said I don't agree with what Hayfield did, but what I don't like is how yall use racial undertones, name calling terms like "dirtbag or scumbag", and pinpoint things that you don't call out for many of these other white prestigious high football coaching staffs and programs. You in particular internet guy

 

[No. 1 fan]

My question, Is Hayfield out of the playoffs or not. What is the answer?

 

[RobberBrown]

My question, Is Hayfield out of the playoffs or not. What is the answer?

Yes and as of right now, next year also. They can play a regular season but no chance of advancing to post season.

 

[AnyGivenFriday1969]

Who you talking too!! I will type whatever I feel like because I'm willing to bet my life you never played a sport a day in your life. Where is your credentials?? Talking people like me. Once again another paraphrase or catchphrase with racial undertones. Expose yourself, because we can take this offline internet man lol. I'm not go do all this back and forth on internet. Like I said. Phoebus is one program that don't need spotlight when it comes to recruiting or transfer topics of attention. If you love your Alma Mater, I suggest you 🤫, before them "people" come down there to Darlington my boy lol.

"I'm not going to go back and forth on the internet"..... *Proceeds to go back and forth on the internet*

 

[matthew328826]

Guys & Gals - I know this is a hot button conversation item right now or better yet THE hot button topic... your friendly Publisher here just wants to chime in and state that we make sure we ALL stay within the Rivals & VaPreps message board posting guidelines.

That means let's not resort to any name-calling, personal attacks or obscene languge.

I don't mind the lively, spirited back-and-forth. We're not all going to agree, nor should we. I just don't need my notifications blowing up on a Football Friday (or any day for that matter) from my Admin team / board moderators... that is all.

 

[Bucktown434]

"I'm not going to go back and forth on the internet"..... *Proceeds to go back and forth on the internet*

Because I respect Hatfield I'm go let you slide with the cheerleading.

 

[AnyGivenFriday1969]

Because I respect Hatfield I'm go let you slide with the cheerleading.

I'm so glad you "go let me slide". Thanks

 

[cutnjump]

Guys & Gals - I know this is a hot button conversation item right now or better yet THE hot button topic... your friendly Publisher here just wants to chime in and state that we make sure we ALL stay within the Rivals & VaPreps message board posting guidelines.

That means let's not resort to any name-calling, personal attacks or obscene languge.

I don't mind the lively, spirited back-and-forth. We're not all going to agree, nor should we. I just don't need my notifications blowing up on a Football Friday (or any day for that matter) from my Admin team / board moderators... that is all.

Two questions, what are push notifications and their difference from the current notifications? What from a user perspective is the advantage of one form over the other? Thanks.

 

[matthew328826]

Two questions, what are push notifications and their difference from the current notifications? What from a user perspective is the advantage of one form over the other? Thanks.

I think - not totally positive - the difference is a push notification will give you an alert on whichever device you use most frequently, be it mobile or computer. A push notification will likely send you a type of text and/or e-mail, whereas in the other form / regular case you may not get that 'alert' to let you know about the notification, but you would see it under your alerts tab whenever you view the site.

Hopefully that makes some sense and I didn't confuse you - and others - more.

 

[cutnjump]

I think - not totally positive - the difference is a push notification will give you an alert on whichever device you use most frequently, be it mobile or computer. A push notification will likely send you a type of text and/or e-mail, whereas in the other form / regular case you may not get that 'alert' to let you know about the notification, but you would see it under your alerts tab whenever you view the site.

Hopefully that makes some sense and I didn't confuse you - and others - more.

Thank you for the response. It did make sense and will definitely aid my decision.

 

[SPL311U]

Guys & Gals - I know this is a hot button conversation item right now or better yet THE hot button topic... your friendly Publisher here just wants to chime in and state that we make sure we ALL stay within the Rivals & VaPreps message board posting guidelines.

That means let's not resort to any name-calling, personal attacks or obscene languge.

I don't mind the lively, spirited back-and-forth. We're not all going to agree, nor should we. I just don't need my notifications blowing up on a Football Friday (or any day for that matter) from my Admin team / board moderators... that is all.

Thank you ! ! ! This thread was starting to slide toward Fairfax Underground/High School Football 2024 territory in tone and exposition...

 

[OCBoy]

Appeal lost!

Hayfield loses final appeal; powerhouse football team banned from postseason for two years

Hayfield Secondary School has lost its final appeal to overturn a two-year postseason ban in football. The final decision was made by a three-person Virginia High School League subcommittee, which heard from both Hayfield and the league Thursday via Zoom before rendering its decision.

www.insidenova.com

 

[BleedingNavy]

Thanks for the heads up @OCBoy.

 

[No. 1 fan]

I think the nail in the coffin is that so many transferred from Freedom to Hayfield. Down here in the 757 we see 1or 2 kids transfer every school year to other schools but 15 leaving destroys a program. Also, the kids that left Hayfield after the transfers arrived, were they starters before and lost their positions or told to leave. VHSL had to see something really bad for a 2 year ban. I feel for the student athletes that practiced everyday and worked out during the off season. Hayfield administration should pay a price also for this happening.

 

[cutnjump]

I think the nail in the coffin is that so many transferred from Freedom to Hayfield. Down here in the 757 we see 1or 2 kids transfer every school year to other schools but 15 leaving destroys a program. Also, the kids that left Hayfield after the transfers arrived, were they starters before and lost their positions or told to leave. VHSL had to see something really bad for a 2 year ban. I feel for the student athletes that practiced everyday and worked out during the off season. Hayfield administration should pay a price also for this happening.

I think whether it is 1 or 2 or 15 or 16 or more, the the rule should be designed, implemented and enforced consistently. Clearly, the current Hayfield situation is a real life example of pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered given its blatant nature. Not to be ignored are the adults involved in this situation as kids should not be the only ones to suffer the consequences and at the top of the list should be the FCPS Superintendent responsible for the initial "investigation".

 

[WP02alum]

You go first. I'll wait. I'm dead azz serious. I'm not hella mad. I've provided context and reasoning by my original premise the entire time, but it's folk like you that seems to have what we call selective hearing. You hear wtf you want to hear, because you to busy being argumentative and chatty patty like a bitter scorn woman, instead having a open dialogue like a rational human being or a man with some testicle fortitude. I said I don't agree with what Hayfield did, but what I don't like is how yall use racial undertones, name calling terms like "dirtbag or scumbag", and pinpoint things that you don't call out for many of these other white prestigious high football coaching staffs and programs. You in particular internet guy

Ah yes, the historically racist term “dirtbag”. Are you sure you’re not just hearing whatever YOU want to hear? Is there any negative adjective one could use to describe DO’s operation that you wouldn’t call “racist”? Please share.

 

[catchtds]

I guess Overton has got to return his Louis Bags. Only some will get that🤣

 

[VolNation85]

Huguenot might be the next to get caught. They were downtrodden for years and years, now magically overnight they're a state power. Pretty soon there will probably be a transfer portal in high school smh

The difference between Hayfield and Huguenot is that most of Hayfield's players transferred from another VHSL member school. Most of Huguenot's transfers came from a non VHSL member school (Life Christian). No rules against players transferring between public and private schools other than age.

 

[DinwiddieProud]

The difference between Hayfield and Huguenot is that most of Hayfield's players transferred from another VHSL member school. Most of Huguenot's transfers came from a non VHSL member school (Life Christian). No rules against players transferring between public and private schools other than age.

Except, they need legal residency in the Huguenot School District. If they have that, then it is what it is. But, it’s hard for me to believe that more than one or two kids from Huguenot were enrolled at Life Christian. But a lot more than one or two transferred to Huguenot. Just saying!,,

 

[Washingtonian]

I get gift articles from Wash Post and there are some interesting comments: https://wapo.st/48ZM8y5
I hear you might need to use an email address to read the article/comments.

 

[24kGoldPurpleBlack]

Coach Overton and his staff have been doing this for years, from his PME youth program to High School he has been recruiting kids and stacking teams. He got cocky and greedy. Speaking 1st hand on what I know and seen with my own eyes is him recruit a kid from a 7v7 league this summer to come play for him. For anyone familiar with the area and I95 the kid lives in the Stafford/Fredericksburg area and somehow ended up at Hayfield shortl. Thats a heck of a commute for a kid and you dont take half of your team from your previous school without it being obvious..no way over 24 or more kids and their parents are moving and buying houses in the area just like that lol..I will say I feel sorry for these kids but the coaches and the parents shouldve known better. He has some of those parents brainwashed though from the youth league to high school.

 

[WP02alum]

Yup, Fredericksburg area schools have quite a few zoned kids missing that have followed the pied piper with promises of scholarship opportunities. Hope it was worth it!

 

[Researcher27]

As an outsider I will throw my two cents in. We as an American society tolerate breaking the law most of the time when the law is broken in small ways. If the speed limit is 65 and you are going 70 you are not going to get pulled over even though you are breaking the law. But if you go 90 you are getting pulled over. DO was going 90 in a 65 and got pulled over.

 

[kwhs95fan]

He's so cocky and arrogant that when Hayfield lost to that private school from Maryland the other week, he posted on his social media that their 30 something game winning streak was over. Obviously we all know that Hayfield didn't win that many in a row. He was referring to his own personal record, which in my personal opinion was what he really cared about. Tooting his own horn.

 

[WP02alum]

Not shocked at all. Egos!

 

[Kenneth Harris]

Ah yes, the historically racist term “dirtbag”. Are you sure you’re not just hearing whatever YOU want to hear? Is there any negative adjective one could use to describe DO’s operation that you wouldn’t call “racist”? Please share.

Racism does not exist. The Civil Rights Era is over and done. Racism assumes something that is not true in modern Black communities. There is no unity in many Black families or community Claims of racism are made by the very people that do the most damage inside Black families and communities once those with the hammer of justice show up. It is so bad in the current iteration of the so-called Black community that if anyone actually says who caused the existing problems and who maintains them that person or people run the risk of losing careers and or income. Ignore claims of racism and anyone screaming it. Look behind them for the stolen bag of cash.

 

[OCBoy]

Yup, Fredericksburg area schools have quite a few zoned kids missing that have followed the pied piper with promises of scholarship opportunities. Hope it was worth it!

Exactly why James Monroe is irrelevant now. Between city kids going to county schools or Hayfield.

 

[edwinanderson2nd]

Racism does not exist. The Civil Rights Era is over and done. Racism assumes something that is not true in modern Black communities. There is no unity in many Black families or community Claims of racism are made by the very people that do the most damage inside Black families and communities once those with the hammer of justice show up. It is so bad in the current iteration of the so-called Black community that if anyone actually says who caused the existing problems and who maintains them that person or people run the risk of losing careers and or income. Ignore claims of racism and anyone screaming it. Look behind them for the stolen bag of cash.

Terrible take

 

[24kGoldPurpleBlack]

As an outsider I will throw my two cents in. We as an American society tolerate breaking the law most of the time when the law is broken in small ways. If the speed limit is 65 and you are going 70 you are not going to get pulled over even though you are breaking the law. But if you go 90 you are getting pulled over. DO was going 90 in a 65 and got pulled over.

Doing 90 and head out the window bragging and gloating about it then played victim when they got caught

 

[24kGoldPurpleBlack]

He's so cocky and arrogant that when Hayfield lost to that private school from Maryland the other week, he posted on his social media that their 30 something game winning streak was over. Obviously we all know that Hayfield didn't win that many in a row. He was referring to his own personal record, which in my personal opinion was what he really cared about. Tooting his own horn.

He posted that but never publicly apologized to the kids or took any responsibility for his he instead let the "team moms" and parents take to social media and rant and rave about how wrong it was they got punished etc, he took no accountability but tooted his own horn about HIS winning streak comming to an end

 

[awjones1978]

Racism does not exist. The Civil Rights Era is over and done. Racism assumes something that is not true in modern Black communities. There is no unity in many Black families or community Claims of racism are made by the very people that do the most damage inside Black families and communities once those with the hammer of justice show up. It is so bad in the current iteration of the so-called Black community that if anyone actually says who caused the existing problems and who maintains them that person or people run the risk of losing careers and or income. Ignore claims of racism and anyone screaming it. Look behind them for the stolen bag of cash.

Man you got this one way wrong…

 

[Phoebus Fan]

Who you talking too!! I will type whatever I feel like because I'm willing to bet my life you never played a sport a day in your life. Where is your credentials?? Talking people like me. Once again another paraphrase or catchphrase with racial undertones. Expose yourself, because we can take this offline internet man lol. I'm not go do all this back and forth on internet. Like I said. Phoebus is one program that don't need spotlight when it comes to recruiting or transfer topics of attention. If you love your Alma Mater, I suggest you 🤫, before them "people" come down there to Darlington my boy lol.

Please name the transfers and recruits…yall out of town people have no clue what’s going on lol. We literally have two transfers that are backups.

These kids been playing together for 8-10 years…talking about transfers and recruits lol

 

[WP02alum]

Exactly why James Monroe is irrelevant now. Between city kids going to county schools or Hayfield.

Hot take: the JM coaching staff isn’t great. And the JM AD deserves the heat for bouncing Serbay with no solid plan for the aftermath. I understand wanting to move on, but you gotta try to navigate it better than JM did with Serbay.

 

[mbonape1]

Except, they need legal residency in the Huguenot School District. If they have that, then it is what it is. But, it’s hard for me to believe that more than one or two kids from Huguenot were enrolled at Life Christian. But a lot more than one or two transferred to Huguenot. Just saying!,,

For Huguenot, A lot of kids came in as true 9th graders last year so it was less impact verses a true ship jump from another program. Also, I believe they just need to technically live in the city of Richmond. The scale at Hayfield is what did them in. How would they think they would get away with that? I am not absolving Huguenot but it is light weight compared to the Hayfield situation. Also, Huguenot has been quiet which is a good thing.

 

[gwb16]

Racism does not exist. The Civil Rights Era is over and done. Racism assumes something that is not true in modern Black communities. There is no unity in many Black families or community Claims of racism are made by the very people that do the most damage inside Black families and communities once those with the hammer of justice show up. It is so bad in the current iteration of the so-called Black community that if anyone actually says who caused the existing problems and who maintains them that person or people run the risk of losing careers and or income. Ignore claims of racism and anyone screaming it. Look behind them for the stolen bag of cash.

I usually agree with a lot of things you opine...but this is something else.
I'm going to guess, because of your writing background, this was your sarcasm gift shining through? We've improved in quite a few areas, but we're FAR from perfect or finished in terms of race relations. BOTH sides have work to do. WE ALL CAN DO BETTER....it DOES exist Ken...seriously.