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Well sometimes adults have to make appropriate/correct adult decisions. Kids are kids on both sides of this unfortunate aisle. They need to understand that life is not always roses/fair. Sometimes you have to sacrifice for the betterment of all. A lot of dead men lay in Arlington cemetery who were forced to fight for something they may or may not have believed in.
This situation could and should have been resolved weeks, if not months, ago if the Fairfax County Superintendent and VHSL Executive Director had properly and fully done their jobs. Instead they elevated what should have been a local situation into a major CF rising to the state level.
 
Well sometimes adults have to make appropriate/correct adult decisions. Kids are kids on both sides of this unfortunate aisle. They need to understand that life is not always roses/fair. Sometimes you have to sacrifice for the betterment of all. A lot of dead men lay in Arlington cemetery who were forced to fight for something they may or may not have believed in.
At some point the adults have to put this back in the hands of the kids. I understand the coaches frustrations but as a senior gearing up for my final playoff run our coach would've had to fight the whole team if he said we were forfeiting to make a stand.
I wouldn’t put this in the hands of a kid, kids didn’t start this.
 
I wouldn’t put this in the hands of a kid, kids didn’t start this.
Didn't mean let the kids actually decide. Just meant at this point let the kids play and let the adults deal with their mess off the field. Forfeiting now only hurts the kids of those programs. The coaches will have another year. . . The seniors won't.

If these same coaches want to block Hayfield out of the region next year I'm all for it. But don't punish your own team.
 
Didn't mean let the kids actually decide. Just meant at this point let the kids play and let the adults deal with their mess off the field. Forfeiting now only hurts the kids of those programs. The coaches will have another year. . . The seniors won't.

If these same coaches want to block Hayfield out of the region next year I'm all for it. But don't punish your own team.
The timeliness of the stand, ironic given all that has transpired, matters, in my opinion.
 
And yet another article I discovered through another site. This one is a very long read but really tells the story in its entirety. Not much new, but there are some bits of information this reporter got from people involved who most have not heard from.

 
I've been watching from a far (relocating)... Read a couple intriguing articles from today in Fairfax.

6 FCPS Coaches signed a letter with plans to forfeit their games vs Hayfield. Not sure if they'll be playoff games... Or can they forfeit games already played? Or both?

FCPS School board has fired the law firm who represented the families that filed the injunction vs the VHSL..

Same school board is preparing to conduct their own investigation. Sounds like things are getting very serious.... Too bad they waited so long to get involved!
 
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I've been watching from a far (relocating)... Read a couple intriguing articles from today in Fairfax.

6 FCPS Coaches signed a letter with plans to forfeit their games vs Hayfield. Not sure if they'll be playoff games... Or can they forfeit games already played? Or both?

FCPS School board has fired the law firm who represented the families that filed the injunction vs the VHSL..

Same school board is preparing to conduct their own investigation. Sounds like things are getting very serious.... Too bad they waited so long to get involved!
Heads are going to roll when this is all said and done no matter what happens. I believe school board members will be replaced, there will be a new administration, AD and coach at Hayfield. This is being talked about on Elliott in the Morning, a morning show on XL102 in Richmond and northern Virginia. Grant and Danny, a radio show in DC was talking about it the other day. I wouldn't be surprised if this makes national headlines if it hasn't already.
 
Heads are going to roll when this is all said and done no matter what happens. I believe school board members will be replaced, there will be a new administration, AD and coach at Hayfield. This is being talked about on Elliott in the Morning, a morning show on XL102 in Richmond and northern Virginia. Grant and Danny, a radio show in DC was talking about it the other day. I wouldn't be surprised if this makes national headlines if it hasn't already.
Hayfield probably gets cleaned out and, maybe, the superintendent. However, the school board was just elected last year. I don't think any will resign unless they're directly implicated instead of just not overseeing the process as they should have.
 
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But wait it gets better…🙄…

I wonder if Reid wishes that she should had withheld that racism charge, knowing now that the meeting was recorded and there was absolutely NO INDICATION of racially motivated undertones? I'm guessing she's going to double-down and stand on her comments until she's fired, then sue for the remainder of her contract...and get paid...ahhhhhh.....the American Way.....to hell with ACOOUNTIBILITY! Blame everyone else and deny everything...it's the NEW WAY!
 
This is starting to make my head hurt. Education doesn't just happen in the classroom it happens in every aspect of our lives. They have failed the youngsters. Start your own private school if you want to build a juggernaut or else coach with what is already there and turn them into something.
 
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The coaches all know there's a problem & they're the best group to police this. Develop a code of ethics, require certification & sanction your own. Decertify the bad apples

Because a lot of these problems are connected to youth leagues, a statewide association/ union is likely required. The connections with the side gig, training academies & 7vs7 leagues needs to be recognized as the conflict of interest that they are! In no way should HS or MS coaches be involved in those activities, period.
 
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There are plenty of school activities that are sanctioned by non-VHSL entities. Wonder if that’s where we’re headed?
 
I had a HS coach tell my child that if they wanted to be considered for a starter on his team, they'd need to join HIS off season travel team! This should never be allowed. The conflict is clear.

Those "other entities" are utilized to entice families to do what we see in these All Star type teams. The other way to go about this is to go ahead & allow a Cali type league that is segregated as such but not eligible for VHSL championships. Let them schedule private schools & the National powers just keep it out of the VHSL. For me, it's the unfair level of competition the current system has produced.

IF parent choice actually occurs, with pretty much open enrollment, then there's a good chance this academy type school for sports will be the natural progression of things anyway.
 
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Hayfield probably gets cleaned out and, maybe, the superintendent. However, the school board was just elected last year. I don't think any will resign unless they're directly implicated instead of just not overseeing the process as they should have.
The Schoolboard would sacrifice the Superintendent before they take the fall. The Schoolboard is unbelievably shielded by some invisible law shield that makes them immune from facing consequences of "morally objective decisions". However, they can and I have seen it happen, sell out the Super to get the heat off of the Board and quiet the masses. By the next election, everyone just remembers they helped remove the "problem". As with MOST situations, the TOP SPOT is always the target. Although it does sound like Reid is complicit here. It's NOT looking good at all. I can't help but wonder if there was some sort of professional relationship that existed between Reid and the Hayside Principal and AD prior to their hiring....that would make for an interesting "oh by the way" storyline....
 
I had a HS coach tell my child that if they wanted to be considered for a starter on his team, they'd need to join HIS off season travel team! This should never be allowed. The conflict is clear.

Those "other entities" are utilized to entice families to do what we see in these All Star type teams. The other way to go about this is to go ahead & allow a Cali type league that is segregated as such but not eligible for VHSL championships. Let them schedule private schools & the National powers just keep it out of the VHSL. For me, it's the unfair level of competition the current system has produced.

IF parent choice actually occurs, with pretty much open enrollment, then there's a good chance this academy type school for sports will be the natural progression of things anyway.
My thought process has been going here for a while. I have a class for all-star teams and let them duke it out for a championship. They have a different set of rules and guidelines and schools can appeal to play in that class if they so choose. Then you have a 4-class system with the other schools. Pretty simple in theory.
 
........ I can't help but wonder if there was some sort of professional relationship that existed between Reid and the Hayside Principal and AD prior to their hiring....that would make for an interesting "oh by the way" storyline....
I have no proof, but early in this debacle I recall there was an article or post that Reid knows the principal well from another job or school system.
 
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