Poquoson/Goochland Power Points

[LHS Rams]

IF I did this right, I have Poquoson and Goochland at 24.5 and 22.8 respectively. Based on last year, it looked like the VHSL determined FUMA to be the equivalent of a class 3 program...also, if I understood what I read about classification points, I had to give Goochland two points for playing class 1 Lunenburg.

Anyway, I was just curious how these two compared to date...if interested, please provide any corrections.

 

[piz hokies]

According to VHSL
Region 2A
- Poquoson 24.5
- Goochland 23.5
- Amelia 23.0
- King William 19.6
- Prince Edward 15.2
- Arcadia 15.167
- Brunswick 15.0
- Bluestone 14.0
- Nandua 14.0
- Greensville 14.0
- Nottoway 13.8
- Bruton 11.5
- Randolph-Henry 9.25

 

[LHS Rams]

Thanks, piz hokies...I didn't think this was coming out until tomorrow.

Looks like the VHSL doesn't include the FUMA game for Goochland after all, which is the difference....

 

[piz hokies]

FUMA does not count towards power points. They are a boarding school which does not allow them to be a part of the VHSL power points.

 

[LHS Rams]

Gotcha...thanks!

 

[lucustookis]

I wrote this before the season and will write it again. In order for Goochland to out-point Poquoson, they will need to have a better record by MORE than 1 game. Meaning......if Goochland goes 9-0 (FUMA doesn't count), in order to out-point Poquoson, Poquoson will need 2 losses. If Poquoson only has one loss and goes 9-1, they will out-point Goochland .

Right now, Poquoson is not quite at the halfway point and they have a 1.0 lead on Goochland. Poquoson still has 2 class 4A schools left to play and it has 3 class 3A schools left to play. Of the schools Goochland has left, the combined record right now of those schools are 10-15 (10 wins and 15 losses). Of the final schools Poquoson has left to play, the combined record right now is 12-13 (12 wins and 13 losses). One advantage is not just playing up for Poquoson, but the district has 10 teams and of course, these schools play one another and have already played their one out of district game, so it's guaranteed mathematically that 9 of Poquosons 10 total opponents will have a combined record of .500, and this is where rider points are key. With 5 of those 6 opponents left being class 3A and 4A schools, that bodes well for Poquoson, if of course, Poquoson wins. Goochlands 9 total opponents will not finish with a winning record. When that is factored in regarding rider points coupled with Poquoson playing 9 out of 10 schools of which 4 are 4A and 5 are 3A, Goochland will need a 2 margin lead in having fewer losses than Poquoson.

What I'm saying is this....
Goochland is going 9-0. They ain't losing. If Poquoson goes 8-2, Goochland will have home field position If Poquoson goes 9-1, they will out-point Goochland and have home field position even with Poquoson having a divisor of 10 and Goochland having a divisor of 9.

Let me sum this up a different way for Goochland and Poquoson. You need only to look at Poquoson and not Goochland. Goochland ain't losing the rest of the way. They finish undefeated. There is no reason to look at Region A power points either. If Poquoson loses two games, then Poquoson travels. If Poquoson loses only once the rest if the way, Poquoson hosts. Now, if interested in Region A teams 3 through 8, then look at the power points

 

[ClarkeFan83]

I wrote this before the season and will write it again. In order for Goochland to out-point Poquoson, they will need to have a better record by MORE than 1 game. Meaning......if Goochland goes 9-0 (FUMA doesn't count), in order to out-point Poquoson, Poquoson will need 2 losses. If Poquoson only has one loss and goes 9-1, they will out-point Goochland .

Right now, Poquoson is not quite at the halfway point and they have a 1.0 lead on Goochland. Poquoson still has 2 class 4A schools left to play and it has 3 class 3A schools left to play. Of the schools Goochland has left, the combined record right now of those schools are 10-15 (10 wins and 15 losses). Of the final schools Poquoson has left to play, the combined record right now is 12-13 (12 wins and 13 losses). One advantage is not just playing up for Poquoson, but the district has 10 teams and of course, these schools play one another and have already played their one out of district game, so it's guaranteed mathematically that 9 of Poquosons 10 total opponents will have a combined record of .500, and this is where rider points are key. With 5 of those 6 opponents left being class 3A and 4A schools, that bodes well for Poquoson, if of course, Poquoson wins. Goochlands 9 total opponents will not finish with a winning record. When that is factored in regarding rider points coupled with Poquoson playing 9 out of 10 schools of which 4 are 4A and 5 are 3A, Goochland will need a 2 margin lead in having fewer losses than Poquoson.

What I'm saying is this....
Goochland is going 9-0. They ain't losing. If Poquoson goes 8-2, Goochland will have home field position If Poquoson goes 9-1, they will out-point Goochland and have home field position even with Poquoson having a divisor of 10 and Goochland having a divisor of 9.

Let me sum this up a different way for Goochland and Poquoson. You need only to look at Poquoson and not Goochland. Goochland ain't losing the rest of the way. They finish undefeated. There is no reason to look at Region A power points either. If Poquoson loses two games, then Poquoson travels. If Poquoson loses only once the rest if the way, Poquoson hosts. Now, if interested in Region A teams 3 through 8, then look at the power points

Thanks for the headache!

 

[LHS Rams]

I think Poquoson will exact some revenge on Smithfield and York this season....

 

[lucustookis]

Thanks for the headache!

It was a bit much, but I wanted to give a reason for my thoughts. ClarkeFan, I would have to check this and think about, but it would be interesting to see this......IF Poquoson goes 9-1 and IF (I know, lots of ifs) they win the region, does a 9-1 regular season Poquoson out-point a 10-0 regular season East Rock or Central team to have homefield position in the state semis?

 

[lucustookis]

P.S. just looked again at the power points for Region A. I wrote it's a done deal that if Goochland is 9-0 and Poquoson loses 2 games and goes 8-2, then Goochland would be the homefield team. That's not accurate. Incredibly, even if Poquoson loses TWO games and goes 8-2 compared to a 9-0 Goochland, it will be an absolute toss up 50-50 and truly come down to what their opponents do outside of their districts. Therefore, even an 8-2 Poquoson team may very well out-point Goochland .

 

[obguthr]

I think Poquoson will exact some revenge on Smithfield and York this season....

As good as Poquoson was last year and then losing Diesel, I think they may be better this year. You might be right. One thing's for sure, those two games will be very entertaining.

 

[ClarkeFan83]

It was a bit much, but I wanted to give a reason for my thoughts. ClarkeFan, I would have to check this and think about, but it would be interesting to see this......IF Poquoson goes 9-1 and IF (I know, lots of ifs) they win the region, does a 9-1 regular season Poquoson out-point a 10-0 regular season East Rock or Central team to have homefield position in the state semis?

It's all good, just trying to follow the math and all twisted my already twisted brain even more.

 

[LHS Rams]

P.S. just looked again at the power points for Region A. I wrote it's a done deal that if Goochland is 9-0 and Poquoson loses 2 games and goes 8-2, then Goochland would be the homefield team. That's not accurate. Incredibly, even if Poquoson loses TWO games and goes 8-2 compared to a 9-0 Goochland, it will be an absolute toss up 50-50 and truly come down to what their opponents do outside of their districts. Therefore, even an 8-2 Poquoson team may very well out-point Goochland .

I know the power points will fluctuate throughout the season and may not be the best indicator of strength of schedule, but just for some perspective, Poquoson is currently second in all of class 2 behind Glenvar.

Since Poquoson primarily plays class 3 and 4 teams, as long as they win most of 'em, they'll always have a solid rating...on the flip side, having to constantly beat schools w/larger enrollments is a real challenge. Even though a couple of those class 4 programs currently aren't very good, when a school has a few hundred more kids to pull from, that makes a difference.

As good as Poquoson is this year, 9-1 is a real possibility, which would undoubtedly give them home field advantage throughout their region, and likely the state semifinals, if they were to make it that far. Also, as you said, even at 8-2, they'd still have a decent chance to host every game in 2A.

 

[LHS Rams]

As good as Poquoson was last year and then losing Diesel, I think they may be better this year. You might be right. One thing's for sure, those two games will be very entertaining.

Yes, even though they lost Henesey, they're better...we know about their returning stars, but another year of experience for the kids that don't get any ink is big. The difference between good teams and great teams can be the improvements and maturation of those players...as they say, football is the ultimate team game. Also, the addition of their kicker is big...potentially a real difference maker.

Smithfield isn't as good as last year, but they'll likely be a tough out at their place...I actually think that could be a tougher game than York. I don't think they're quite as good as last year either, and I'm sure the Islanders will be looking for a little payback against both. If there was ever a time to do it, it's now....

 

[lucustookis]

LHS, looking at the powerpoints today, it's a bit crazy but true in that.......there is a very, very real possibility that an 8-2 regular season Poquoson team would host all the way up to the state title game IF (big if) the Bulls made it that far. Yes even over a 10-0 regular season East Rock or Central.

A 9-1 Poquoson team will EASILY out-point a 10-0 Woodstock or East Rock or Goochland and again.........an 8-2 Poquoson team will LIKELY out-point a 9-0 Goochland and it's 50-50 on an 8-2 Poquoson outpointing a 10-0 Region B team in East Rock or Woodstock.

 

[LHS Rams]

Yep, that's the upside of having to play and beating primarily class 3 and 4 teams....