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Showdown at Highlander Stadium

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Well, here we go again. A game with a ton on the line. Can Glenvar's defense stop the single wing for a 5th straight win or is this the year Giles gets it back? This is going to be a tough, exciting game for both schools and what HS football is all about.

Both teams are hitting their stride and looking confident.

What are your thoughts?
 
Going to be good one. I'm going to catch this one and watch UNC vs VT. I think Glenvar is the safe pick since they've seemed to have the upper hand between the two the last few years. I wonder if Glenvar has a mental edge? I don't think Giles beats em unless/until Giles has superior talent, and this year, the talent is close again.
Glenvar 24- Giles- 21
 
I think Giles defense is to weak to win this game. Giles is young in key positions on defense and it has showed all year with blown assignments. As I stated a few weeks back the truth is Giles is just not as good this year as in years past. Still to much kids not doing what coached to do. Glenvar wins by two scores, maybe more.
 
I think you’re correct on D, but if some changes can be made on offense to open things up, I believe this can be very close game.......offensively Giles is much to predictable and easy to stop when you know exactly what play is being run, but open it up some and don’t be afraid to try something new and different, honestly, what is there lose at this point.
 
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I think you’re correct on D, but if some changes can be made on offense to open things up, I believe this can be very close game.......offensively Giles is much to predictable and easy to stop when you know exactly what play is being run, but open it up some and don’t be afraid to try something new and different, honestly, what is there lose at this point.
I agree, I think the playbook does have to be opened up a bit. Glenvar is to good on defense to prepare for four plays like that have in the past.
 
I agree. The same four plays with one great player won't do it IMO. Giles needs to put in some wrinkles as Glenvar knows how to defend the single wing inside and out. I think it is going to be another slobberknocker. If Glenvar can get some passing downfield, it's going to be a long night for Giles and open it up for a pretty good running game. If not then it's Giles advantage.
 
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Bburg fan but Giles and Glenvar admirer. Giles has four play's . I have to laugh. No it is not that. You guy's don't have the depth of greatness you had 3/4 years back. I have seen you guys few times. I see where you are hampered in many ways. Open it up? What about executing the REAL GILES. Pound the rock. Oh and wake up on Defense.

Glenvar. saw you in scrimmage. Much of the same. Don't allow fans to overcoach you.

Back to Giles. I suppose you fan of the Spartans are wanting spread all out throw the ball. Well if you ever get it. Welcome to mediocrity.

Bburg can run spread with run involved. Giles nor Glenvar can. Be happy with what you have. Both. You could be Cburg!
 
I think Giles defense is to weak to win this game. Giles is young in key positions on defense and it has showed all year with blown assignments. As I stated a few weeks back the truth is Giles is just not as good this year as in years past. Still to much kids not doing what coached to do. Glenvar wins by two scores, maybe more.
This, unfortunately. I don't think Giles needs to do a whole different on offense, just execute. If film reveals something Glenvar does poorly on defense, exploit it, but otherwise, run the offense like we always do.

Now, onto the defense. Winger is absolutely right. Our defense is just not very good. They don't look that bad playing a weaker team, but against a team of Glenvar or Graham's caliber, it shows. We've got some play makers on D, but it isn't about the stars you have. It's about your weakest links. Glenvar's coach is smart enough to recognize where our holes are and he will go at them down after down. We've got to spend some extra time coaching up our defensive players that are struggling. Give them some confidence and we'll have a shot. They have to get better though. No more missed assignments. No more missed tackles. Sound technique.
 
Word I hear . This will come down to defense. Not offense. Glenvar may have advantage but could they have beaten Graham. I know Bburg would beat them. So Giles has played tougher opponents. Who wins battle of Defense will win.
 
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No one is saying to go away from the run!..........if you’ve watched Glenvar and Giles the last few years, then you should be able to see that we’ve had better talent in the past and were able to execute, but Glenvar still shut Giles down. It’s really not that hard to do when you are predictable and the defense knows what you are going to do. There is a lot more that could be done out of the single wing with play action passing. We’ve got kids that get open and catch it and make plays, but throwing 50 yds down the field all the time and waiting to throw on 3rd and long doesn’t do anything to help! As far as I’m concerned being a long time Spartan fan, I admit, I would like to see a deviation from the single wing now and then. Keep the defense guessing and on their heals, that’s what’s going to help keep it close. Running straight at a good Glenvar defensive front over and over won’t get much with same few plays. Giles D is not great and must have kids step up and have the game of their life if they want to win.
 
Not many shut Giles down. Glenvar has had good players . Let the kids play and enjoy. Heck Bburg loss to Giles 6 straight years. Why? Shoved it up our ass. Not tossing ball round looking fan pleasing. Listen I know where you are thinking. I imagine your coaches have it in mind also. Still if you have to change your WAY. Then mail it in now!
 
Don't think anyone is saying change the offense just saying open it up. We have different formations with splits, double wing and a lot more plays in the book to run.
 
Word I hear . This will come down to defense. Not offense. Glenvar may have advantage but could they have beaten Graham. I know Bburg would beat them. So Giles has played tougher opponents. Who wins battle of Defense will win.

As for Glenvar and Graham, I watched this scrimmage. My wife is from Salem. This was only a scrimmage and an early, early scrimmage, not even a benefit game, but Graham handled them easily. The feel of that scrimmage was, if the two played a regular season-4 quarter full game, it would have been Graham by 2-3 touchdowns on that given day. Things change and players improve and coaches coach and make adjustements from an early-glorified practice to 2 months later in the year, but for that given day, Graham easily bested Glenvar. I have no idea what happens if those two played today. Glenvar might beat em by 2 TD's or Graham might them by 2 TD's. I can only comment on what I watched over 2 months ago at a meaningless scrimmage game. Immediately after watching that scrimmage, I posted on here that in my opinion, Graham would beat Richlands this year and that the G-Men would make it to the state-semi's. I still stand by that. They looked very, very talented and I had heard how their lineplay was weak the past couple of years. I didn't see that against Glenvar. Their lineplay looked very good. Their weakness was the QB's ability to accurately throw the football and make reads. But, things change and kids improve. If the QB is improved with making reads and throwing the ball, they become a dangerous opponent for anyone they face, including Appo. Not saying they beat Appo, but they have the firepower to score from anywhere on the field and a good defense to go with it.
 
I agree. The same four plays with one great player won't do it IMO. Giles needs to put in some wrinkles as Glenvar knows how to defend the single wing inside and out. I think it is going to be another slobberknocker. If Glenvar can get some passing downfield, it's going to be a long night for Giles and open it up for a pretty good running game. If not then it's Giles advantage.
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I agree. The same four plays with one great player won't do it IMO. Giles needs to put in some wrinkles as Glenvar knows how to defend the single wing inside and out. I think it is going to be another slobberknocker. If Glenvar can get some passing downfield, it's going to be a long night for Giles and open it up for a pretty good running game. If not then it's Giles advantage.
I agree. The same four plays with one great player won't do it IMO. Giles needs to put in some wrinkles as Glenvar knows how to defend the single wing inside and out. I think it is going to be another slobberknocker. If Glenvar can get some passing downfield, it's going to be a long night for Giles and open it up for a pretty good running game. If not then it's Giles advantage.
OK, here's why Giles may have things swing their way in this game. Glenvar's 4 wins against Giles have been either playoff rematches from the regular season or 2 regular season wins in which Glenvar had bye weeks the week before, thus 2 weeks to prepare for Giles offense. When they have played regular season games in which Glenvar had one week to prepare, they are 0-20 against Giles. Maybe there is a factor there, maybe not. We will see.
 
Don't think anyone is saying change the offense just saying open it up. We have different formations with splits, double wing and a lot more plays in the book to run.

I have watched yalls jv run double wing. Spare me to think that will work. I am sure there are other stuff in arsenal but darn whom made you use them? James RIver or Carroll. Again spare me. My point is this. If you guys lose this game it will be because of limited defense. If you win it will be because of your past POUND THE ROCK and mix a few things in. Like always.
 
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OK, here's why Giles may have things swing their way in this game. Glenvar's 4 wins against Giles have been either playoff rematches from the regular season or 2 regular season wins in which Glenvar had bye weeks the week before, thus 2 weeks to prepare for Giles offense. When they have played regular season games in which Glenvar had one week to prepare, they are 0-20 against Giles. Maybe there is a factor there, maybe not. We will see.
Hope you are correct with your assessment!
 
Minute man..Interesting theory...If Glenvar wins, maybe you guys will finally admit Glenvar has just been better. I told you guys 3 years ago why Glenvar has been winning. Glenvar finally figured out how to defend the single wing and they have the horses to do it the last 4 games because of excellent coaching. Giles can win the game but they have to better defend the pass and they have to get Glenvar out of their normal defense somehow or create turnovers. The fall ahead for 4 yards a pop and then break a long one every once in awhile, won't work anymore against Glenvar IM humble O.

Glenvar has partially figured it out but the biggest thing as you said they had the horses especially with deck alls and company....all boils down to jimmies and joes....first 20 giles has them...last 4 glenvar has...both coaching staffs are good so that's a wash....all comes down to players
 
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Glenvar has partially figured it out but the biggest thing as you said they had the horses especially with deck alls and company....all boils down to jimmies and joes....first 20 giles has them...last 4 glenvar has...both coaching staffs are good so that's a wash....all comes down to players
Should be another great game.
 
As for Glenvar and Graham, I watched this scrimmage. My wife is from Salem. This was only a scrimmage and an early, early scrimmage, not even a benefit game, but Graham handled them easily. The feel of that scrimmage was, if the two played a regular season-4 quarter full game, it would have been Graham by 2-3 touchdowns on that given day. Things change and players improve and coaches coach and make adjustements from an early-glorified practice to 2 months later in the year, but for that given day, Graham easily bested Glenvar. I have no idea what happens if those two played today. Glenvar might beat em by 2 TD's or Graham might them by 2 TD's. I can only comment on what I watched over 2 months ago at a meaningless scrimmage game. Immediately after watching that scrimmage, I posted on here that in my opinion, Graham would beat Richlands this year and that the G-Men would make it to the state-semi's. I still stand by that. They looked very, very talented and I had heard how their lineplay was weak the past couple of years. I didn't see that against Glenvar. Their lineplay looked very good. Their weakness was the QB's ability to accurately throw the football and make reads. But, things change and kids improve. If the QB is improved with making reads and throwing the ball, they become a dangerous opponent for anyone they face, including Appo. Not saying they beat Appo, but they have the firepower to score from anywhere on the field and a good defense to go with it.
You state why scrimmages are pretty much meaningless by week 8 and then tell us in mid October why Graham was clearly better than Glenvar on a day back in mid August at a scrimmage? If that has any relevance at all in your mind to the Giles/Glenvar game, let me tell you about a team from Blacksburg last year.
 
Springroad asked if Glenvar could beat Graham or Blacksburg and asked the question. I'm not sure what relevance it has to Giles vs Glenvar and didnt claim it to. I was just informing him that at least Glenvar and Graham have been on the same field this year, again, only a scrimmage. I'm not sure the poster was aware of that.

As for Blacksburg, they really improved last year. Like I mentioned, scrimmages don't mean.much because teams improve and get better like Blacksburg. But..being only a scrimmage, Glenvar would need to dramatically improve to beat Graham from where they were and where Graham was in the scrimmage. I pointed out that, Glenvar could maybe whippin by 2 td s or vice versa. Blacksburg is an example of how teams evolve and coaches do also.
 
Really comes down to execution. If you don't believe that, ask Dabo or any of the other three ranked teams that lost this weekend. Don't recall the year but a couple of years ago, Giles won 30-0 regular season and got spanked by Glenvar in the playoffs. First game the Glenvar QB missed receivers a lot. 2nd game he threw darts.
 
Springroad asked if Glenvar could beat Graham or Blacksburg and asked the question. I'm not sure what relevance it has to Giles vs Glenvar and didnt claim it to. I was just informing him that at least Glenvar and Graham have been on the same field this year, again, only a scrimmage. I'm not sure the poster was aware of that.

As for Blacksburg, they really improved last year. Like I mentioned, scrimmages don't mean.much because teams improve and get better like Blacksburg. But..being only a scrimmage, Glenvar would need to dramatically improve to beat Graham from where they were and where Graham was in the scrimmage. I pointed out that, Glenvar could maybe whippin by 2 td s or vice versa. Blacksburg is an example of how teams evolve and coaches do also.


Just stating that it seems Giles has tougher schedule. That was all. I guess my point was Glenvar would have two losses if playing BBurg and Glenvar. Which they did scrimmage both and got spanked.
 
Really comes down to execution. If you don't believe that, ask Dabo or any of the other three ranked teams that lost this weekend. Don't recall the year but a couple of years ago, Giles won 30-0 regular season and got spanked by Glenvar in the playoffs. First game the Glenvar QB missed receivers a lot. 2nd game he threw darts.

Agree execution a must. Mistakes almost none is needed for either IMO.
 
Whoever wins I hope the talk about the game is how great it was and not altered by the refs. Last few years it was a hot topic. I take Glenvar at home, they got some studs on defense and Giles may be too young this year. Then again when it's a rivalry like this who knows. Good luck to both.
 
Springroad asked if Glenvar could beat Graham or Blacksburg and asked the question. I'm not sure what relevance it has to Giles vs Glenvar and didnt claim it to. I was just informing him that at least Glenvar and Graham have been on the same field this year, again, only a scrimmage. I'm not sure the poster was aware of that.

As for Blacksburg, they really improved last year. Like I mentioned, scrimmages don't mean.much because teams improve and get better like Blacksburg. But..being only a scrimmage, Glenvar would need to dramatically improve to beat Graham from where they were and where Graham was in the scrimmage. I pointed out that, Glenvar could maybe whippin by 2 td s or vice versa. Blacksburg is an example of how teams evolve and coaches do also.

I'm a homer for Glenvar but also normally pretty realistic. I would say Glenvar has dramatically improved since Graham. They haven't been tested yet, so we will know more on Friday whether that assessment is correct. .
 
Really comes down to execution. If you don't believe that, ask Dabo or any of the other three ranked teams that lost this weekend. Don't recall the year but a couple of years ago, Giles won 30-0 regular season and got spanked by Glenvar in the playoffs. First game the Glenvar QB missed receivers a lot. 2nd game he threw darts.
2014....went from 33-0 Giles to 35-0 Glenvar..a 68 point swing in just 2 weeks..Both games were played at Giles.
 
2014....went from 33-0 Giles to 35-0 Glenvar..a 68 point swing in just 2 weeks..Both games were played at Giles.
That was my point in my earlier post. That 33-0 win for Giles was the last time they played with Glenvar only having one week to prepare. That was a Glenvar defense that went on to win state that year. I used to have a buddy that ran a little booky ring around here. The only advice he ever gave me was "never bet on a streak to end". So you go with your 4 in a row streak, I'll go with my 20 straight wins with one week preparation streak, and we'll see what happens. Really nothing more I can do myself except be there for support, and wear my lucky underwear. Let's hope for a good, hard fought, well played game.
 
2014....went from 33-0 Giles to 35-0 Glenvar..a 68 point swing in just 2 weeks..Both games were played at Giles.
I saw that second game and I have never been so completely shellshocked in my life. There were well over a thousand Giles fans thinking what in the hell just happened? It was a damn good bit of game planning, if you ask me.
 
I'm a homer for Glenvar but also normally pretty realistic. I would say Glenvar has dramatically improved since Graham. They haven't been tested yet, so we will know more on Friday whether that assessment is correct. .

It sounds to me like Glenvar has improved much, much more than the rate that other teams have improved. This tells me Glenvar is very well coached. I would call Galax a test or at least a quality opponent, but Glenvar took it to them by the score I read.
 
I saw that second game and I have never been so completely shellshocked in my life. There were well over a thousand Giles fans thinking what in the hell just happened? It was a damn good bit of game planning, if you ask me.
No doubt the ball bounced Glenvar's way offensively with those 2 scores right before halftime but Giles didn't even threaten the whole game with mostly 3 and outs. it was obvious the biggest change between the games was on defense which has served Glenvar well since. I look for another low scoring (21-14ish) slobberknocker unless Giles can't defend well in the secondary. I doubt Giles will dominate this year with just the same four plays against a defense that is looking more and more like the one in 2014.. Good luck to both teams.
 
It sounds to me like Glenvar has improved much, much more than the rate that other teams have improved. This tells me Glenvar is very well coached. I would call Galax a test or at least a quality opponent, but Glenvar took it to them by the score I read.
I would say Glenvar's coaching staff is up there with Salem's. In SWVA it doesn't get any better..
 
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