Surry ends season on high note with upset win over Sussex!
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Surry has one player, forget his number, but u could tell if he had a little help they could squeek one win out out.he was like mr everything for them.
Congratulations to the Cougars but this is not and upset . Sussex was a very young team , do it next year maybe then its an upset. ( Rivals) Good luck in Region B.
Considering the youth and adjustments to a new Coach, the transfer of their starting qb and rb, along with low numbers....I would definitely consider this an upset.
They were 1-8 coming into the game and Sussex was 2-7...you call that an upset??? Good win by Surry but that's where it stops. Two teams that finished the year 2-8...
Yeah wouldnt call it an upset either..two teams having a down year.recent memory just have sussex beating surry year in and out
The standards and expectations must be really low in Surry County ! Congratulations on winning your Superbowl of sorts. As a proud supporter and alumni of The Sussex Central Tigers i feel GREAT that you are so high on beating THE TIGERS ! We are on track for a special future indeed.
Regardless of the record, a win is a win and if rushing the field is what it takes to build momentum for those young with all the adversity they had to encounter then they deserved to do so. By Surry being the clear under dog between the two, therefore I stand by my statement as an Upset victory.
When your a team not projected to win a game and you beat your rival in their house ....then yes they should act that way. Surry coaches improved that team as the year went along. Sussex Central should have made the playoffs at least. So yes it's an upset.
First of all there is nothing wrong with storming the field when you win...just don't look for sympathy when you are getting blown out by 40. I spoke to one of the coaches in Sussex. Let's just say Sussex will be highly motivated for Surry next year. Since two losing teams doesnt matter when calling it an upset. Let me try to break it down again. Surry beat Brunswick the week before who beat Sussex. So tell me again why Surry didn't have a chance? I agree Sussex could have( not should have) made the playoffs but SEL you cover sports...a football team in 1A that lost 17 seniors shouldve made the playoffs? Sussex lost three All State players, didn't return NOT 1 offensive player, and had four defensive returners(2 started as Freshman last yr). So again GOOD win by SURRY but that's where it stops! It was two programs that had a down yr...don't get carried away.
Surry over Sussex is considered an upset,
Not sure why Tiger fans would even take offense to that. Strange. Take it as a compliment.
Congrats to Surry.
Not sure why Tiger fans would even take offense to that. Strange. Take it as a compliment.
Congrats to Surry.
This season Northumberland defeated Essex. The Indians had a better record this season and is seeded higher.
I can assure you, Northumberland beating Essex was considered an upset.
I can assure you, Northumberland beating Essex was considered an upset.
For the past couple weeks I've been hearing how sussex could sneak in as the 8th seed and how nobody wants to have a 1st round matchup with them. Now all of a sudden they lose to Surry and sussex fans are saying now that there was no way they could have made the playoffs this year with what they returned.
I guess we can agree to disagree. We are adults and we both can have an opinion. Appreciate the dialog and yes WE will take it as a compliment!
Don't try to flip it..it was an opinion just like you had one. Go back and read my last post. I said Sussex COULD have not SHOULD have! The statement about returners was in reference to why anyone had a chance against Sussex(experience normally beats YOUTH). Anyone that has been around our program know we don't make excuses. Every yr our kids know the expectation is to be playing THANKSGIVING weekend. We lost and when we do OUR true program supporters always give the other team their just do! So again I say GOOD WIN SURRY!
I agree once again(about opinions) lol. But I wouldn't call that an upset. Then again I haven't seen Rapp play so I don't know how to pick that game lol
I would say the pressure is on Rapp today. Looking only at past history, not this season, this would be an upset win for Rapp. Good luck to both teams and I'm hoping for a big crowd. Definitely going to be a playoff atmosphere.
I guess my intrepretation of an upset is off...I always thought if teams are evenly matched or records are similar then an upset would be off the table. Just my thoughts...anyways good luck to all that remain.
I agree with you 100 percent @TIGER...NATION . I guess if Rapp wins it would be more like the same situation as Surry beating sussex. But yes one good team losing to another is not an upset.
All good points made, interesting debate on what is considered an upset.
To me, if anyone beats Alabama in college football, it’s considered an upset.
LSU is ranked # 3- I wonder if they will rush the field if they beat or “upset” Bama today....
To me, if anyone beats Alabama in college football, it’s considered an upset.
LSU is ranked # 3- I wonder if they will rush the field if they beat or “upset” Bama today....
I made that statement weeks ago and truly believe in our kids and coaches to make the playoffs, we expect to win year in year out.
I would say it would be an upset if LSU record was 4-4..not 7-1.they will probably rush the field regardless..especially rivalry games
I guess you forgot I played on a team that lost 18 starters the year before and we went to the state championship the next season. We worked our butts off to keep the legacy from falling short. It eventually did and Surry danced on our field for their first victory in Sussex. Riverheads lost a big number from 2016 and went back. Its all about offseason work. Are you saying Sussex Central didn't have winnable games? Did we become Chincoteague overnight? They had 7 games which they could have won. Only the Essex, Greensville, and Park View games were contests they had no chance. 4 wins would have gotten them in. Gloucester rushed the field and they beat Hampton. Hampton had a down year but its about who Hampton is. The same with Sussex Central. We have a strong legacy of football dominance so it means something. I stand behind they should've made the playoffs which is a prediction I made before the season started because you had the Franklin game, Brunswick game, and the Surry game which only came down to decision making and not ability. The ability gave you the chance to win. So these young men had the opportunity to win and they battled! I am proud of their effort. If someone who didn't see the games read your last two sentences they would think Sussex Central lost by 40+ every game. That didn't happen at all! We don't need excuses.....we just need to say we will be better next season.
First off go and read my post from earlier...no what I will help you.
Don't try to flip it..it was an opinion just like you had one. Go back and read my last post. I said Sussex COULD have not SHOULD have! The statement about returners was in reference to why anyone had a chance against Sussex(experience normally beats YOUTH). Anyone that has been around our program know we don't make excuses. Every yr our kids know the expectation is to be playing THANKSGIVING weekend. We lost and when we do OUR true program supporters always give the other team their just do! So again I say GOOD WIN SURRY!
Now that you have caught up..I don't and will NEVER make excuses for a Sussex Team. As far as the team that went to the State Championship..are you referring to the Powell Valley year? If so yall brought back a whole lot so there isn't a comparison. You guys had a returning Quarterback(G.Gay) who played against Luneburg the year before, player of the year Ben Smith, All State Lineman J. Delk, B. Brown and M. Graves(set or tied the interception record). So you can't compare that to a 2018 squad with no game time experience. Sussex went to the State Semi-finals with those players the year before so it wasn't surprising that you guys were undefeated heading into the state game! I know Sussex history...good try though LOL
I am very busy so I just saw your comment. I didn't flip anything. These young men were in these games and could've .won and they SHOULD have made it. Hopefully you are just fan because if you didn't believe in them then something is terribly wrong. They had to talent to make it but some scenarios had nothing to do with youth! I will hold back on the specifics. And the goal has always been to get to the State Playoffs and not some damn region championship. Who made that crap up? Keep those low expectations outside of Sussex borders.
And if experience meant so much then why with all those returning All State players and QB the following year Sussex lost their first ever district game since being in Single A and never made your Thanksgiving goal because they lost at home to Northumberland! According to your logic that SHOULDN'T have happen or Jefferson taking the youthful 2001 team beating a huge senior loaded team of Franklin and making the state title game.
Football is football and if you know you won't have the experience or skill set as the previous years you work hard and plan smarter. You can't use the previous plans or expectations. The Tigers probably had the best pass catching tight end in the whole region, a WR who was under utilized that had a great year based on Sussex passing game, and a defense that looked great times. They had they chances but their failure wasn't all because youth. The failure started in the offseason. Hopefully, they don't make the same mistakes this time. Again, just throw away the excuses about youth and talk about what's going to be done to have the success we expect.
And if experience meant so much then why with all those returning All State players and QB the following year Sussex lost their first ever district game since being in Single A and never made your Thanksgiving goal because they lost at home to Northumberland! According to your logic that SHOULDN'T have happen or Jefferson taking the youthful 2001 team beating a huge senior loaded team of Franklin and making the state title game.
Football is football and if you know you won't have the experience or skill set as the previous years you work hard and plan smarter. You can't use the previous plans or expectations. The Tigers probably had the best pass catching tight end in the whole region, a WR who was under utilized that had a great year based on Sussex passing game, and a defense that looked great times. They had they chances but their failure wasn't all because youth. The failure started in the offseason. Hopefully, they don't make the same mistakes this time. Again, just throw away the excuses about youth and talk about what's going to be done to have the success we expect.
Once again you need to do your homework. In 2001 nothing was youthful about that team! Sussex had around 15-16 Juniors(2 returning QBs who had played significantly, 1 of them played in the Regional championship). They had about 12-15 SENIORS that returned also. As far as the yr Sussex lost to Northumberland, they ran into a team that wanted it more. Best catching Tight end in the region? So you forgot about Ford from Franklin? A defense that looked great at times? Yeah sometimes but lets not forget that we had a secondary that got exposed ALL YEAR long. For someone who covers sports you sound crazy! We both love Sussex but we have to be real about this...
Now let me address your other comments. I have always supported the program..why? Because I'm a former player who did more than hold down the sidelines.Out of respect I'm going to keep it positive but don't get it twisted I could speak on how you have had negative comments about the Program. Since it is a message board i can't be mad about your opinions. Last thing...sounds like you are blaming their losses on coaching?? I would put that staff up against any staff in the State! I have had numerous conversations with the staff as well as watched the film(even though I was at the games) and the pieces to the puzzle wasn't there. The coaches didn't lose their knowledge, they adjusted to the personnel. Its the same staff who put in a whole new offense to compete with Essex the year before, same staff whose halftime adjustments held most opponents scoreless after halftime, same staff who presented at the NIKE's coaches clinic, and the list goes on and on. We are all busy so that's not an excuse...I didn't respond back to your comment until a day or two! OAN my apologies to the other posters...just get excited when someone tries to give a bad light to the program!
Guys enough of the bashing ! Its great to see that we all care and expect our Tigers to remain a premier program. Lets take the energy and encourage the returning players to put in the work in the off season, Fans must increase there support, Coaches must coach better, Players must put in the work to play better. What im getting at we all must do better for OUR program we are all accountable. The Coaching Staff in my opinion had one of there better years this year. Tiger Pride !
You are right about the bashing. One of the reasons why I normally stay out of Sussex football convos. When we winning the community loves everything about Sussex. But when we lose, those coaches should have did xy and Z. And yes they had one of their better years...but I will leave it alone because You are right as a whole Sussex need to do more! #TIGERPRIDE
Come on gentlemen, sometimes there is nobody to blame, just outmatched at the time and numerous other factors. Dont know in this case, wont pretend like I do, but just because you lose doesnt mean it is on the coaches and/or the players.
You think the loss to Alabama was on the LSU coaches? Players? They were just outmatched.
It confuses me when people are all over coaches when they lose, but great when Winning. You think the coaches lost their knowledge? Think they sabotaged themselves? Or the players, you think they quit or didn't give maximum effort?
And it's not just in this case. I have seen/heard fans of some great programs, championship teams, and the fans are questioning the coaches if they lose a game or 2
You think the loss to Alabama was on the LSU coaches? Players? They were just outmatched.
It confuses me when people are all over coaches when they lose, but great when Winning. You think the coaches lost their knowledge? Think they sabotaged themselves? Or the players, you think they quit or didn't give maximum effort?
And it's not just in this case. I have seen/heard fans of some great programs, championship teams, and the fans are questioning the coaches if they lose a game or 2
That's all I was saying. Don't blame the staff during bad times. Anyone can check my posts over the yrs, when we lose I send congrats to the other team! Never make excuses...just know my history so opinions need proof if they want to observed as facts. It is what it is..like I said 20 posts ago LOL. GOOD LUCK TO THE REMAINING TEAMS! THATS WHERE THE DISCUSSION SHOULD BE..who will sit on the mountain top after the season????
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